One-Sided Friendships, Unpaid Wedding Labor, and a Friendship Unconsidered
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When concern is just convenience in disguise.
In this episode, I unpack a shocking wedding submission involving fake concern disguised as kindness, a bride who secretly made her friend the point of contact for the entire wedding, and the painful realization that some friendships only exist when someone needs something from you.
I also get into wedding hot takes, listener confessions, and the reality of one-sided friendships. On a side note: Drama Ever After is on the lead with big changes and updates!
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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments
- Fake Concern Setup — A best friend frames exclusion as “protection” due to MS, but the story unravels into something manipulative.
- Unpaid Wedding Labor Reveal — Bestfriend unknowingly been assigned the role of managing the entire wedding behind the scenes.
- Point-of-Contact Trap — She’s made the wedding’s main coordinator while actual bridesmaids are fully off-duty getting glam.
- Emotional Labor Overload — From bouquets to crisis control, she’s handling everything the bride asks.
- Invisible Support Breakdown — She becomes the only person actively keeping the day from falling apart.
- The “After Everything” Realization — The emotional turning point hits when it becomes clear she was only valued for what she could do, not who she was.
- Friendship vs. Function Insight — One-sided friendships often disguise dependence as closeness until it’s too late.
- Wedding Etiquette Hot Takes Return — From long ceremony gaps to guest behavior, what truly ruins wedding experiences.
- Tradition vs. Intention Conversation — A reflection on why people follow wedding traditions without asking whether they still make sense today.
Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode
- “A friendship breakup hurts differently because that’s someone that you chose to have in your life.”
- “ What we see on Pinterest and social media is not realistic for everybody. .”
- “The best weddings feel like the couple, not like a Pinterest board.”
- “I don’t think anyone’s a bad guest unless they start drama, honestly.”
- “People live very different lives… weird things happen all the time.”
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Christa Innis: Hey, guys. Welcome back to a brand-new episode of Here Comes the Drama. It’s been over a month since I’ve sat down and recorded, and as you guys can see, if you are watching the video, I am in my new house. so during that time, I moved, and I’m still getting accustomed to the new space. I apologize in advance if you can hear a little echo.
I’m figuring out sound, lighting, and all that good stuff in this new space. and then if you are watching the video, you can see behind me is a work in progress. We’re figuring things out as we go. I’m also recording in a different way. so again, I apologize if I tend to look at my computer. That’s where I’m used to recording from.
I’m now recording from my phone for the time being until I figure more things out. So again, thank you for your patience as, I’m learning as we go. just kinda making it fun. But I’m excited to be back and read some stories from you guys. I get so many stories, and I don’t even have the chance to read all of them, so being able to do the podcast allows me to really, like, absorb them in a different way and sit down with you guys and enjoy them.
So it’s been a wild few weeks. it still kinda feels a little surreal.
currently I’m filming at night, and normally my husband’s at home, but he’s at a concert tonight, so I was like, “It’s fine. I’ll film when my daughter’s asleep,” and she’s in there just chatting away.
anyway, sorry to keep this episode a little bit shorter just so I can kind of slowly get back into it, and please, you will not offend me.
I do wanna hear your feedback because we’re constantly trying to make it better and, of course, sound better. not that long ago I sent out an email survey where you guys could give me your feedback as well, and I’m taking all of that into account just to make better content for you, better episodes, newsletters, and all that good stuff.
So, the biggest update, of course, I just talked about is that we moved, so that’s been a big process with a toddler, getting everything settled, and kind of figuring out our new space. it’s been a long time coming. So very excited to have more space to be able to film and more areas of the house that I can use.
as opposed to my last podcast, we were filming in my closet. it’s quite, quite the change. the next update, which happened this week, actually yesterday as of recording, which I’m so relieved and happy about, is I submitted book number two edits. I’ve kinda talked about it here before, but, I’m working with my literary agent on book number two of the Here Comes the Drama series.
It’s called Drama Ever After. It follows season two pretty closely but, of course, I’ve made a lot of changes, and I’ve added a lot of stuff and a lot of scenes and dialogue that I just couldn’t put in the storyline, skits. you’re also gonna notice some bigger changes that, again, were not in the skits, but it’s like once I read through it and I try to make sense of it, I’m like, “Wait a second.
Why did I have that happen? This should’ve happened.” And so it’s been fun, but it’s been a lot of work in the midst of moving to be able to focus on that. And I’m someone that, like, works on deadlines really well, but if you give me a deadline way in advance, like months in advance, it’s really hard for me to be like, ” Okay, I’ll work a little bit here and a little bit here.”
I wait till the last minute. If you’re my literary agent listening, no, I didn’t. Shh. so it’s really hard for me. I was really good in the beginning about pacing myself, and then all of a sudden it was like, “Oh my gosh, I need to read through this book
Two more times with edits in one week’s time. So that was a lot to take on, but I’m really excited and happy that it is submitted. Not to say there won’t be many more edits, but I just feel like we’re making progress with this book.
I’ve also said many times before that, we’re processing it and publishing it a different way than the first one. So I’m excited to see it all come to fruition.
Hot Takes on Modern Wedding Etiquette
All right, so let’s jump right into some hot takes. We’re just gonna do a few of these and then get into this week’s story submission. A long gap between ceremony and reception is worse than almost any other planning mistake.
Okay, so I wouldn’t say it’s worse than any other planning mistake, and I don’t think it would be called a mistake if they do it on purpose, but it is rather annoying when there is a really long gap, especially if you’re far from home because then if there’s, like, a three-hour gap, you’re like, ” What do we do for these three hours?
We have to be back for dinner by this time. What are we gonna do in a town where we don’t know anybody, don’t know what to do?” I’ve seen it happen a few different times, and there was really nothing the bride and groom could do. we ended up going to a house of a relative that was nearby. but you should hope and plan accordingly that when the reception starts, that dinner is served almost immediately after because one of the weddings that I went to where there was a really long gap, I want to say it was, like, three or four hours between the, end of the ceremony to the reception, we still got to the reception and I think had to wait another hour, hour and a half for dinner.
So really think about that when you ask your different venues, about timing and what is available because I think sometimes people get so far in the planning process where they don’t realize, ” Oh, we have to push this back,” or, “Oh, our church only allows us to get married at this time.” So really ask those questions ahead of time.
Okay. Not everyone wants to dance, and that shouldn’t make them bad guests. Yeah, I mean, I don’t think it should be, like, required for people to dance. Some people are just really not comfortable with dancing, and I think that’s okay. But if you’re not a dancer, make sure you’re having a conversation or talk with some people.
I don’t think anyone’s a bad guest unless they start drama, honestly. Like, if you just want to sit at your table and be a bum, that’s fine. Like, you’re not hurting anybody. but you are at a social event, so be kind, be communicative with people, and just enjoy the night. It’s okay to reuse decor, dresses, or ideas.
You don’t need everything to be never been done before. yes, 100%. I’ve talked about this before. My wedding, we reused fake flowers from my friend’s wedding. a bunch of decor was passed along from different weddings I was at. I borrowed some from, the venue I was at. I got some from a thrift store.
So yeah, I mean, it’s not tacky to reuse stuff. Please reuse stuff. Save where you want to or can. To me, and for me, getting something that was brand new or expensive was just not in the budget, and it was not something that I wanted to spend my money on. Okay.
The best weddings feel like the couple, not like a Pinterest board. I feel like that’s phrased kind of weird, but I agree. I think ultimately, the couple brings the vibe, right? So if they’re a fun couple, they’re on the dance floor all night, they’re talking to everybody, they’re having a good time, the guests are gonna have a good time.
The Pinterest board is great for the image and all that, but at the end of the day, if it just looks great but the party kind of sucks, it doesn’t matter. Okay, last one. Some traditions stick around purely out of guilt, not because anyone actually enjoys them.
I wouldn’t say guilt necessarily, but I do think a lot of times people think they have to keep the tradition alive because their parents did it or their grandparents did it without actually questioning why they did it, or if they actually want to do it themselves. I know so many weddings I went to, they do the bouquet toss and they do the garter toss.
And for me, I hadn’t really been to a wedding where they didn’t do it. It was just very normal. And then when we got to mar- ready to get married, I was like… Not ready to get married, planning our wedding. I was like, “Mm, I don’t wanna do that.” And I think a lot of times people don’t even take a step back and say, ” Does this make sense for my wedding?
Would I want this at my wedding?” they just kind of think they have to do it. They, like, build it in there. So I think you would always ask yourself, like, “Does this make sense for us, or is this something I’d rather leave out?”
A Friendship Turned Unpaid Wedding Support
All right, here we go. This week’s wedding story submission. About seven months ago, my best friend since kindergarten invited me to her wedding. We’re coming up on nearly 30 years of friendship. We spent every summer together growing up, went on each other’s family vacations, and her family has always called me their bonus daughter, the whole nine yards.
So when she invited me, I naturally asked what dress she wanted me to wear, since we have literally been talking about being in each other’s weddings for over twenty years. That’s when she told me, ” Because of your MS, I’m not going to have you in the wedding. I don’t want the stress to be too much for you.”
Oh. I was hurt, but I told myself it was her wedding. I decided I would still go, support her, and respect her decision. Fast-forward to the wedding weekend. I flew in on Friday after waking up at three AM to catch my flights. That same day, I helped her make a four-tiered cinnamon roll cake and stayed up working with her until almost midnight.
The next morning, we were supposed to get our nails done at together at eleven AM, while the rest of the group went at nine. At nine AM, I get a text saying she was already there. Oh, they’re getting her nails done, so I rushed over and ended up getting my nails done alone. Okay, that’s weird. After that, we spent the day running around shopping for the wedding.
When we got back to her house, she had me put together her bouquet and all the bridesmaids’ bouquets. This is very odd. At that point, I went back to the hotel early because I was completely exhausted. Then came the wedding day. I found out she had made me the point of contact for the entire day. So while her bridesmaids were getting their hair and makeup professionally done, I was running around managing everything.
Okay, so you’re telling me she was hired as the day-of coordinator without being hired as a day-of coordinator. That is, like, the sneakiest, like, I don’t know. I don’t know how I feel about this friend. and for anyone that doesn’t know, there’s typically a point of contact for every wedding. Like, it’s typically the maid of honor, your day-of coordinator, wedding planner.
I’ve been the day-of contact many times for weddings. It’s just so that you’re not bugging the bride with questions like, “Oh, what door do we come in?” ” Where should we set this?” “We’re running late.” You know, anything like that, it’s so they can contact someone So the fact that she just made this friend her contact is very weird.
The fact that she was like, “Oh, I don’t want you to be in the wedding ’cause it’s gonna be too much for you,” acting like she cared, but then being like, “Psych. You’re gonna be the day of coordinator and just not get paid for it,” is essentially what I’m getting. ” When her dad wasn’t there five minutes before the ceremony, I kept her calm and made sure she didn’t know.
When her mother-in-law’s dress broke and her husband had to leave to get it fixed, meaning he might miss pictures, I stepped in again. I distracted her, kept her relaxed, and handled everything he was supposed to be doing until he got back.” So she realizes at this point that she’s being used. She has to know because people are calling her, she’s getting, like, pulled in all these different directions.
I’m confused why she hasn’t… I mean, I guess at that point she’s probably thinking the bride still has good intentions. So she’s like, “Oh, I’m just helping.” But then I’m sure in 2020, She’s looking back and she’s like, “Wait a second.
When Loyalty Isn’t Reciprocated
This doesn’t make sense.” ” I basically spent the entire day doing the role of maid of honor without the title.” See, I was thinking more day of coordinator, but okay. ” And then when the ceremony started, I was sitting in a car while two other people stood beside her, one being a friend she’d only lived with for three months years ago, and the other being her niece, who she had been talking badly about all weekend.”
Why are you talking bad about your niece? That’s weird. Weird behavior. ” She never thanked me, not once. She never acknowledged that without me she wouldn’t have had a cake, bouquets, or a stress-free wedding day. I didn’t say anything. I just quietly left early using TSA as an excuse and ended up sleeping at the airport.
There’s honestly even more that I could say, but I was so overwhelmed that I was crying from stress on the day of the wedding. I was handling everything, and at one point I had to ask the hairstylist if I could pay her to quickly curl my hair cause I hadn’t even had time to get ready even though I had arrived six hours earlier.”
This girl does not care about you. She does not care about you. It makes me so upset when I hear stories like this because I read it and I’m like this is obviously a one-sided friendship. All along the person sending, that sent in this story, she’s like, “This is my best friend. I’ve known her for 30 years.
We’re gonna be in each other’s weddings, like maid of honors,” blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this other one’s like, “Ah, she’s so annoying. I’m not gonna have her in my wedding, but you know what? She’s really good at what, this, this, and this, so I’ll have her come along, but she’s not gonna have the title.” Like, that is so shitty to me.
Friendship, Boundaries, and Moving Forward
Like, why act that way to someone you’ve known all along? Like, at the end of the day, if she didn’t want her in her wedding, I mean, whatever. Like, you choose who you want, just be upfront, and then don’t use them. Don’t make them the point of contact and have everyone contact them. Say like, “Oh, this… You can call her, or you can talk to her if you need something for the wedding day,” because that just makes you look like a shitty person.
Looking back, I showed up for her in every way possible. I wish she had just shown up for me, too. I wanna know you guys are no contact now, if you guys don’t talk anymore, because after that, I would be like, I would feel very used, and I think our friendship wouldn’t be the same after that, because it’s very clear how she feels about you.
I’ve said it before, I’ve felt like I was in weddings before just because I was good at certain things. not to this extent, of course. I was clearly asked to be in a wedding, and it was very clear what my expectations were. This reads as someone that’s, like, thinks you’re beneath them, and they…
The fact that she, disguised it as caring for you, ” Oh, I don’t want you in the wedding because you have MS. I’m looking out for you.” When in reality, everything she had her do was harder than just standing up in the wedding. So this is just a friend that doesn’t truly care about you. And so I hope this can just be a learning experience of like, okay, I need to guard myself against people like this, because she obviously doesn’t have my best interest.
Man, I know we like the drama-filled stories, guys, but sometimes I’m just like, dang. Like, some of them just seem a little more heart, heart… Mm, what’s the word I’m looking for? Gut-wrenching than, like, entertaining drama. the mother-in-law ones, like, yes, it’s pain at the end of the day, right?
To, like, have those, strong disagreements and someone coming in saying, like, ” You’re doing it this way. You’re whatever, a gold digger,” whatever, it’s that kind of thing. But it’s also, like, that’s your partner’s parent. So, like, at the end of the day, you have to decide if you want them in or out, right?
But a friendship is just a different kind of breakup, right? It’s like, that’s someone that you, like, gave your heart and soul to. You chose to have them in your life. And so I feel like those kind of hurt a little bit more, when it’s someone like that and you have a friendship breakup. So- I hope this person that sent this in was able to look back and say, “You know what?
I’m grateful for the ti- good times I had with this person, and now I’m gonna move on from it.” Because no good is going to come from a friendship like that. She’s gonna continue to use you, and I bet you if you were to able… if you were to look back at your friendship, you would now be able to clearly see times that you were used in it or, called at her convenience, right?
I had friends like that, too, where I thought they were, like, my best friend. I’m like, “Oh my gosh, they’re one of my best friends. Like, we get along so well.” And then you think back and you’re like, ” They called me when they nothing better to do, and the second something better came along, they dropped me.
it didn’t matter.” and sometimes it takes us time to recognize it, but when you do, you’ll be grateful you did. Like I said, sorry guys, this episode’s a little bit shorter just because I’m getting back into the swing of things. Okay, let’s get into some confessions.
Listener Confessions: Feeling of Ignored and Unheard
This week we asked a time you felt ignored or unheard during your wedding or someone else’s. This person says, “When my grandmother-in-law took my husband to dance during our first dance.” I said, “No.” You know, you have to laugh at that. It’s just, like, that older generation that they’re just like, “I’m gonna do what I’m gonna do.”
Like, they kind of don’t give any F’s anymore at, at that point, and I’ve seen that many times with grandparents. Um, you, you kind of have to laugh it off. There’s no reason to really start anything because of it. It’s just, like, I don’t know. Okay.
“Parents own a business and are using my wedding as an advertisement. I have to say no.” Wait. “I have no say.” You do have a say. What do you… Okay, I need to know more about this. Can you please send me some details? Like, DM me some details. What kind of business is this? How are they using your wedding as an advertisement?
Like, it’s in a commercial, it’s in an ad on social media. Talk to me. I need to know about this because you should have a say. This is your wedding day, and if they wanna be that way, say, um… don’t give them access to things. Like, are they using your wedding photos? ‘Cause if they’re using wedding photos or engagement photos, say that it needs to be approved by, um, photographer.
Um, okay.
“My sister wearing a different dress than the one I bought all because I wouldn’t pay for tailoring.” You bought her a dress- But she didn’t like it because you wouldn’t pay for tailoring. I mean, I don’t know what was talked about ahead of time, but if you don’t, like, communicate, people don’t realize that tailoring can sometimes cost just as much, if not more, than the dress, which is ridiculous, but at the same time, you’re paying someone to literally, like, remake the dress to fit you perfectly.
Um, but it’s wild that she then bought a different dress because then she’s probably paying more than the tailoring would have cost. All right.
Sorry, guys, I’m getting raspy. Um, “The bridesmaid dress options didn’t fit me right. The bride refused to compromise. It was so uncomfy.” See, that’s where, as a bride, you have to understand that everyone’s body type is different. That’s why I’m like, I love when brides, like, let your bridesmaids pick different outfits because people have different comfortability lev- comfortability levels and just whether they want things snug or loose or fitted or flowy.
So I think it’s really, really good as a bride and really helpful to ask your bridesmaids, like, “What kind of style do you like?” Um, if it’s like you don’t like the color, I think you can suck it up, but if it’s something that’s, like, really uncomfortable, doesn’t fit you right, like maybe you’re heavy-chested and it’s like you don’t like that feeling there, that’s something that I think as a bride, if they’re your true friend, they’re gonna take that into consideration.
“My maid of honor, sister, didn’t arrange a bachelorette until my mom reminded her to.” This is, again, one of those things where it sucks, but if she’s never been in a wedding before or it was not properly communicated to her, she might not know. I’ve heard of people getting upset when it’s, like, a younger sister, um, or a younger friend or, you know, what have you, and it’s like they’ve literally never been in a wedding.
They’ve never done a bachelorette party. So at that point, what I would suggest doing is hosting your own or seeing if another friend wants to take it over. Um, or you can, like, kindly remind, just be like, “Hey, so this is what I was thinking for the bachelorette. I’ll book the hotel.” You gotta remember, like, what we see on Pinterest and social media is not realistic for everybody.
We see these great big bachelorette parties where people spend thousands of dollars and they get all these, like, gifts, and that’s just not realistic. So remember to take a step back from social media and be like, “Okay, what’s realistic? What can we do? And what does my sister need to understand before doing all this?”
Um, “When my sister called me and told me she booked the rehearsal dinner when I didn’t even ask.” That’s a quick cancel unless you like the place. Um- Again, she’s probably just trying to be helpful, but I can see where that would be, like, stepping on your toes. Just quickly say, “We’ve already got it covered, but thank you.”
Okay, last one.
When my sister-in-laws… Okay, last one. When my sisters-in-law got up and gave a speech they weren’t invited to make at the end without asking.
You guys know how I feel about this. Never, never, never give a speech if you are not asked to give a speech. That is, like, so… Tacky is the wrong word, but, like, it’s just rude. It’s bad etiquette because people plan out their wedding, they plan timing so perfectly, and maybe they purposely didn’t ask you or this person because they just don’t want you to say anything.
So just don’t do it. Don’t ask if you can give a speech either. If they want you to give a speech, they will ask you. Um, and if they don’t ask you and you really have something you wanna share with them, write a letter, make a video, um, make them a scrapbook. You know, there’s so many other options if you actually care about sharing your feelings and something heartfelt with them, and making it less about a whole production.
Okay, this last one I just wanna read really quickly because it reminds me of one of the skits we shared. My grandfather hates dancing and made sure there’s no music at our wedding. There was a story, a skit I read, and I can’t remember the characters, but people were shocked at it because at the very end, everyone was told not to dance because the grandfather was there and did not like music.
So… And I was told commenting, they were like, “That didn’t really happen. There’s no way they would go through all this planning.” Oh, it was the one where the mom tried controlling the whole planning process, and she wanted it to be like her wedding, too. I might be mixing some up. Anyway, um, so that was wild, and everyone was like, “Oh, that would never happen.”
But guys, it happens. Any time you hear one of my stories and you’re like, “That would never happen,” just remember, people live very different lives. All over the world, all over the country, wherever you are, people have different families, different backgrounds, different lives. Things happen. Weird things happen all the time, and sometimes I think, like, this is, like, the perfect outlet.
Like, people have been waiting to share these wild stories, and now they’re finally gonna share it. Um, that’s one thing, too. It’s like people will comment on, like, skits or stories that I share, and they’re like, um, they’re, you know, they’ll have, like, a question about, like- “Wait, but didn’t this happen in this skit or this happen in this story?”
And I’m like, I can barely keep track of what I ate for breakfast yesterday. I… The chance of me remembering what skit is this from is very slim to none. I read probably, um, I don’t know, like 50 in a month because some people DM them to me. They’re all over DM, uh, my Google Drive, uh, social media comments.
They’re just all over. Um, also this segment or this episode, we missed the dilemma. I didn’t do a wedding dilemma, but if you have a wedding dilemma that you would like me to read and respond to on the next episode, please email me hello@kristaennis.com. It can be any kind of situation you’re either dealing with or maybe the ri- or maybe something that happened in the past, you’re trying to understand how to move forward.
I will give you my perfectly solicited unprofessional advice, and I’m happy to do so anytime. Um, I love when people send me messages and they’re like, “What should I do?” And I’m like, “I will tell you what I will do.” It’s not a recommendation, but I will tell you what I will do, would do. Um, and you can take it or leave it, and it’s fun.
It’s fun for me. All right, guys. Well, that’s all I have for this episode. I hope it wasn’t too, um, out there for you. Um, again, trying to get back into the routine of things. It’s really hard for me once I’m, like, pulled out of a routine or out of a place to get back in, so I’m trying to make it make sense.
I’m trying to be as productive, but also, like, keeping a good mental health and healthy, um, mind and body in this new space. So, uh, thanks for giving me grace, and thanks for being along with me for the ride. All right, guys. That’s all I have for this week, and I will see you next time. Bye now.
FAN FAVORITE REPLAY: Hijacked Wedding Plans, Boundary Advice Breakdown, and Chaotic Wedding Confessions
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A fan favorite episode is back with wedding dramas insisting on being remembered.
From hot takes on the mother of the groom to a 9-1-1 dilemma about a mother-in-law wanting to wear white, breaking down how quickly wedding boundaries fall apart. Confessions add even more fuel, with backhanded comments and control disguised as “help.”
Then Stories from the Vault takes over with two separate disasters: one where a mother-in-law secretly books a venue without consent, and another where over 100 extra invites are sent, completely hijacking the guest list and the couple’s plans. I also reshare part one of Here Comes The Drama: A Ferris & Sloan Story
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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments
- Boundary Lesson Core — Boundaries with in-laws are framed as healthy, not rude, even in wedding pressure moments
- Fan Favorite Replay — A return of one of the most replayed Patreon episodes.
- Escape Plan Confession — A mother-in-law suggests helping her son plan an escape if he gets cold feet
- Family Dynamics – Relatives get involved, adding fuel to the fire and complicating emotions.
- Mother of the Groom Chaos – Kate panics over Ferris and Sloan’s Christmas vacation, creating tension.
- Guest List Takeover — Over 100 extra invites are sent, completely hijacking the couple’s plan
- Audiobook Part 1 — First chapter reshared shows a Thanksgiving scene spiraling from a vacation announcement
- White Dress Standoff — A mother-in-law and guest insists on wearing white, escalating pre-wedding tension
- Vacation Planning Drama – Kate tries to insert herself into the couple’s plans despite their wishes.
- Surprise Proposal Tease – Ferris plans a proposal, creating a cliffhanger moment that leaves everyone on edge.
Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode
- “Ever wonder what happens when a mother hijacks her son’s holidays? Buckle up.”
- “There’s nothing like a little wine, snow, and family tension to spice up Thanksgiving.”
- “Some moms think control is love, but boundaries are how we survive the holidays.”
- “Ferris finally learned: protecting your peace sometimes means saying ‘no’ to your mom.”
- “The line between family tradition and family chaos? It’s thinner than you think.”
- “Boundaries aren’t mean they’re necessary, especially when someone tries to control your happiness.”
- “Weddings don’t create drama, they just shine a spotlight on what’s already broken.”
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Christa Innis: Hey guys, welcome back to our episode. Here comes the Drama. I’m your host, Christa Innis, and say, we’re actually gonna do things a little bit different. As you can see, I’m recording in my brand new office here if you are watching the video. but there is a lot going on lately between. Moving, taking time off, catching up with work, getting into the routine of things, being a toddler mom.
So this week I am taking off from recording a brand new episode. but don’t worry, I have a awesome episode that I’m going to reshare. It’s actually our top listened episode of all time.
This was a wild story about in-laws hijacking the wedding, and I don’t wanna give any spoilers. Some of you may have already listened to it, but it’s worth a re-listen because it was just. Completely shocking. So I didn’t wanna take the week off completely. I wanted to, share a popular story that you could jump back into.
This was called Stories from the Vault. so please enjoy and don’t worry. I will be back next week with a brand new episode and I do have some new guests coming on as well, just kind of getting into the swing of things and I thought for my own. mental health and sake of catching up, I was going to take this week off.
So without further ado, enjoy this replay episode and I will catch you on the other side. Bye guys.
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Christa Innis: Hey guys, welcome to this episode of Here Comes The Drama. I’m your host, Christa Innis, and it’s actually my birthday today. and so I wanted to do something special for this birthday episode, and that is share one of my all time favorite Patreon episodes. Called the mother of the groom files. You guys are always asking me to share more stories and more content, and this was a wild episode with a wild story, so I thought I would give back to you guys this week.
But first, just a couple of fun announcements. We’re gonna start with a podcast review. This is from Monica. Daniel, it says, I don’t ever listen to podcasts, but when I saw your Facebook post that you started, one, I had to start. Your skits are like crack. You want more and more and more. LOL. Thank you so much for the kind review.
If you guys are loving the podcast, please help me out by leaving a review on iTunes, Spotify, wherever you listen. It just really helps the show get out to more people. Now one more extra bonus for this week is in case you missed it, my new book Here Comes The Drama is now officially an audio book, and I’m so, so excited.
I’ve talked about the process before, but I, worked directly with Tan Tour Media and I was able to listen to actual auditions from voice artists and Shiloh James just had the amazing voice. That I thought would fit so well with these characters. and so it’s now officially out. There’s also an exclusive author’s note that I was able to record myself and the little behind the scenes, note at the very end.
So as a little bonus to you guys, stick around at the very end of the episode, and I’m going to include a. First look at the book. You’re gonna get chapter one, directly to you so you can enjoy that. as a little bonus there. I don’t know how many times I just said bonus you guys. Side note. August has just been a wild month already.
I can hardly keep up. I can’t believe it’s already, by the time you guys listen to this, it’ll be almost over and I’m just like trying to catch up. I feel like if anyone else is feeling that way, I’m right there with you. anyways, I wanna remind you guys that I’m doing a big YouTube giveaway. This is actually the last week to enter.
you got a few more days left actually. so for my birthday month I did a YouTube giveaway. All you have to do is subscribe to my channel and then comment entered on my video, and we will link that in the show notes so you can easily find it at the bottom. we are doing a $75 Amazon gift card and a signed copy of my book for the grand prize winner.
And then every single week we’ve been picking winners for some smaller prizes as well. just a way to say thank you for all you guys that listen and follow on YouTube. Alright, so like I said, we are going to, Give you a special look at a Patreon episode. This was my all time favorite one, the mother of the groom files.
Mother of the Groom Chaos
This was a wild episode where I read, oh gosh, we do some hot takes and I gave you my takes on these mother of groom situations that were sent to me. a mother of the groom, 9 1 1 advice call. So someone sent me in something that happened to them and they’re trying to deal with the. Situation. And then I read a couple of stories and one is probably top 10 wildest mother of the groom stories I’ve ever read.
So we’re gonna go ahead and play that whole episode for you and I hope you guys enjoy it. And don’t forget to stick around to the very end of the episode for the first chapter of, here Comes the Drama.
Hey guys. Welcome back to another exclusive episode of, here Comes The Drama After Dark, just for my amazing wedding party, my Patreon members. I’m so grateful and happy that you’re here with me. First things first, if my voice sounds a little scratchy or I’m sniffling, I apologize in advance. I swear it’s allergies.
I’m not sick. I swear every time I step outside, I’m sneezing like four or five times. Just that time of year, you never know what you’re gonna get. And apparently this year the allergies are crazy to me. So I’m gonna try my best to not sneeze while recording. And we’re just gonna have some fun today. so last month we focused all around mothers of the bride.
Today we’re gonna go to the other mom at the altar, and that is gonna be the mother of the groom. And as I start this episode, I wanna remind you guys. That it’s not all moms. Okay. I still get messages from people that are like, you focus so much on moms all the time. We’re not all bad. And believe me, I know this.
I talk about it time and time again that my own mom and my mother-in-law are amazing. They are not like this. I honestly, until I started really making this content, I didn’t realize people dealt with this. of course I’ve heard and seen things over the years. But some of these stories are just so shocking to me that people can act this way, during a wedding.
So I know it’s not all moms. But there are some really crazy ones out there. So, that’s what we’re gonna focus on today. here’s what we got going on. Of course, I’d like to switch it up every single month just to make things a little interesting and, feeling a little more exclusive and special for you guys.
So first things first, we’ve got some Hot Takes Mother of the Groom Edition, confessions in Chaos. So. Reading some confessions that you guys sent me that actually happened to you and then that’s gonna turn into a 9 1 1. Someone has a little dilemma going on and they would like some advice. And then last, but certainly not least, of course it’s not least because you guys love it the best.
It’s the stories from the vault. today I’ve got two crazy ones and of course I’ve not read them, we got some good ones for you. But I’ll react, along with you. So let’s get started. let’s go right into the hot takes. All right, The mother of the groom should have a special role, but it doesn’t need to mirror the mother of the brides.
This is gonna depend in a relationship with each of them. I mean, I do think. In all the weddings I’ve been a part of, I should say most of them, they had a unique role. but a lot of times both moms were there doing everything together, or just being a part of, the bride getting ready.
Right. I. so of course you’re gonna have your special moment with your own mom versus your partner’s mom, but I really feel like they have similar roles because it’s both their kids’ weddings. I’m very anti, it’s the bride and groom’s day, or. The bride and bride’s day. The groom and groom’s day.
it’s the couple’s day. Right. So I feel like it’s really important that depending on your relationship, whoever wants to be involved is involved the same way we’re not leaving anybody out. Of course, that’s, again, depending on how your relationship is. okay. Two. It’s okay if the mother of the groom doesn’t help with the planning.
Support. Doesn’t always mean involvement 100%. I think sometimes I see stories where the bride gets so mad at the mother of the groom for not being involved, but. They don’t have to be, and that’s not necessarily their wheelhouse. there was one I read not that long ago where the bride was mad because she gave a task to the mother of the groom and it was basically to book the Airbnb for their wedding event and it was gonna be hosted in the backyard or something.
she kept saying like, oh, she was taking so long to do it. And by the time, know, it was getting closer and closer, all the ones that I had really liked were booked. And I was like. If I were the bride, I would never just put that in the hands of someone else. And I don’t blame the mother of groom for that because she might have never had this kind of responsibility before.
She might not be into planning and then this was just kind of put on her lap. Maybe she’s never booked an Airbnb. so when it comes to things like that, I don’t think it’s up to the mother of the groom to want to be involved. She can support you guys in other ways and I think that’s perfectly okay. number three, mother-in-laws giving input on the guest list should only happen early, not the month before invitations go out.
So they could give input or tips anytime, I’m sure, again, depending on your relationship. But yeah, we are not asking for. And like guest list a month before, that’s just too much. there was another mother-in-law story where they asked her way in advance to send a guest list and she kept refusing because she didn’t like that they were only gonna invite 100 people.
So she kept pushing back and saying like, no, I’m not sending you a list. I’m not sending you a list. then they went the extra mile and were looking in heraddress book to get. Her friend’s addresses to send an invite and I’m just like, if it’s gonna be that difficult, why even try? yes. I think everybody, if you’re gonna have your parents’ friends be invited, reach out to them early enough, give them a deadline and be very clear.
okay. I’m gonna do a couple more ‘ we’ve got a long story for you guys and I don’t want, it to be like a two hour episode. I’m sure you guys wouldn’t complain, but Okay. A neutral colored dress is totally fine as long as it’s cleared with the couple first. Uh, it’s so hard because some of these things are gonna be really individual.
Some people might be like, no, absolutely not. For me personally, I think neutral is totally fine. what’s wrong with neutral colored? Yes, maybe avoid white. but I think you can do other neutral colors in general. I think if you’re not sure, ask the bride groom, but. I would never assume that white is okay.
Right.
Number five, it’s not rude to set boundaries with your future mother-in-law. It’s healthy. That goes with for anybody, even people that you have a great relationship with. Boundaries are so good, I think so many times we think boundaries are a way of like shutting people out or being mean, especially if you’re a people pleaser.
It’s not like boundaries can be like, I turn my phone off at 7:00 PM and I spend time with just my family right here. I don’t answer the phone even for my best friend, my boss, whoever it is. And I think that’s so important because so many times, like we think we can be at everyone’s beck and call and that we’re gonna be mean if we say no or don’t answer.
But no, you gotta have boundaries. Last one. The best thing a mother of the groom can ask is, how can I support you instead of assuming what’s helpful. Yeah, I think that’s great. If you are in a wedding, if you are a mother of the groom, if you are the mother of the bride, if you’re a father, like whatever your relationship is to them, how can I support you is a great way.
Instead of just jumping in and saying, I’m taking this task from you because nobody likes that. Okay. Next section. We are gonna do some confessions. I have a couple of confessions here that people sent me, and then the last one’s gonna be more of like a 9 1 1. What do I do in this situation? Okay, first one, mother-in-law told my son she could help him come up with an escape plan.
What if the day of he gets cold feet? So I’m guessing the son then told his partner. It was like, my mom told me this. That’s insane. That’s insane. we wanna encourage the couple. I mean, unless it’s completely toxic and, it’s a bad relationship, which even then, like you gotta make sure like you really are protecting your son.
Otherwise, I’m not saying anything. I said this a while back in an episode. This girl was talking about her whole family didn’t like the partner of her brother. Right? And they wanted to say something so bad. And I was like, you can’t, you can’t say something if you just don’t like somebody, because if something blows up, it’s gonna go back into your face, right?
If you say like, oh, I don’t like her, she’s not right for you. It’s gonna come back to bite you. It’s better to just be supportive. of course if there’s certain things that they say that’s going to, that are just like, down or rude, put you down, that kind of thing. But if it’s just like, I don’t like them because of the way they talk, I don’t like them because they don’t seem right for you.
I’m just protecting you. Like, no, we don’t need to say that. Okay. Two. My bridal shower, my mother-in-law gave me a cookbook and said, you’ll need this more than anyone. No. Okay. As someone that I am very insecure with my cooking. Like I enjoy doing it when there’s no pressure. I like cooking for my family, but I feel like I’m surrounded by so many cooks that are like really good at what they do, that I’m just like, I just second guess everything.
that’d be a little insulting. my husband and I buy cookbooks all the time ’cause we like try new recipes and stuff. But to specifically say to someone, ’cause you need this more than anybody. That’s just a, we call that a backhanded compliment. Actually, I’m not, that’s not even a compliment.
That’s just backhanded. okay. My mother-in-law kept calling it her son’s wedding and didn’t mention my name once in the entire engagement announcement. Ooh, okay. I catch myself when I’m like talking about someone’s story or reading someone’s story, I’ll say like, bride this, and I’m like, no, I need to stop doing that.
The couple’s day, the couple’s wedding, it’s so ingrained in us to talk a certain way. Right. But I feel like society says like it’s the bride’s day. So when you say it’s like your son’s day and your leaving out his partner, that’s intentional, right? Yeah, that’s pretty hard. I had someone on my podcast, Janelle Riedel, was on my podcast a couple weeks back, and she, well, by the time this comes out, it’ll be probably like two months back.
But, she had a very similar story sent to her where there was a, birth announcement. So this woman was saying her and her partner, her and her husband decided they did not want their babies. Face put anywhere, like on social media or anything like that, they made this very clear to the parents.
They go to the parents’ house to go visit them when the baby was like a newborn and sitting right on the table, there was a newspaper clipping where they had a birth announcement. The grandparents put in a birth announcement in the newspaper. Not once did they mention the daughter-in-law’s name. It was just proud grandparents of said the baby’s name and then said their son’s name.
That was it. So that is intentional, you are purposely leaving someone out when it took two people to make that baby. So I don’t know. that’s making a statement for sure. Okay.
Here is the 9 1 1 confession. she’s kind of more of like asking for help. Right. Okay. My mother-in-law just told me she bought a white dress to wear to our wedding because it’s the only color she looks good in.
Okay. I’ve gotten similar ones before. Okay. I told her I wasn’t comfortable with that and she said I was being territorial should be honored that she’s making an effort at all. My fiance is trying to stay neutral. The wedding is in three weeks. What do I do? Okay, first things first. I’m only talking about this general situation right here because I don’t people coming back and being like, oh my gosh, I can’t believe you care about people wearing white at your wedding.
I personally, I wouldn’t care again. It depends on the relationship because if you already have a rocky relationship and someone’s like, I’m wearing white to your wedding, I’m getting a full gown. Again, back to the intentional. It’s intentional they want you to feel a certain way, right? So my guess is if she says, oh, I only look good in white, so I’m wearing a white dress to your wedding, it’s because there’s already some kind of rift there, right?
First things first, the fiance staying neutral is not okay. He needs to make a choice of who he’s backing up. if he’s choosing to marry you, should be backing you up, right? He needs to be the one to, communicate to his mother that this is not appropriate or okay. Now again, I’m speaking for this couple because she has made it clear she is not okay with it.
If you’re okay with white at your wedding, this is not. Relating to you, right? So he needs to be the one to communicate to his mom, Hey Sophie, whatever her name is, has said she’s not okay with it. And I would actually rather her be the only one in white as well, really make it more what he thinks and be that bridge, right?
Because if he’s trying to stay neutral. It’s gonna make them bash even more, right? Because they’re both gonna try to get him on their side. So he needs to make a clear standing point. Being the wedding is only in three weeks, so she’s gonna try to like push back and push back and say like, oh, well there’s no time to get a new dress.
Oh, I can’s, the only dress I have. There’s time. There’s time. you’ve made it very clear that you’re not comfortable with it, so. All you can do is communicate and you need to let your partner know that he needs to communicate to her. that being said, if she still chooses to show up that day in a white dress, you can.
There’s different things you can do. Talk to your vendors ahead of time, maybe your photographer and say like, Hey, my mother-in-law has told me he’s gonna wear a white dress. What do we do? They might be able to situate her. I mean, it’s hard because she’s the mom, so she’s gonna be in the front pictures.
They might be able to like move her. So someone’s like standing in front of her. I know this happened in one of the stories sent to me. She said the photographer worked with her and like, it was like an aunt though, and they put someone directly in front of her. So you couldn’t really tell. and then you have to decide how important it is to you and it’s hard.
This is where you are like, you know what? We’ve dealt with so much with her already. This is it for me. I’m done. I’m done dealing with it. Then you have to make that decision and tell your partner and try to get him on the same page. If this is one little blip in the day and there’s been no other issues, Just let it go. Everyone’s gonna know you’re the bride and everyone’s gonna look at her and be like, that’s ridiculous. So you kinda have to decide and make a decision on your own and with your partner to be like, how big of a deal do we wanna make this? Not saying you’re the one making a big deal, but like, do you wanna escalate it or just drop it?
Okay. So you guys listening at home,
what would you do? Let her wear it. And again, she would outshine nobody. Right? Would you ban her from photos? Would you ask the photographer to gray scale her dress or like move her somehow or politely ask her to sit the wedding out. These are like four different, complete different things. Me, if I were in her situation where you already communicated and it was an issue.
I think I would just let her wear it, not I wouldn’t shine anybody. And then I would probably be like, okay, photographer, what can we do here? And then I would just like not worry about it. But again, I’m not in that situation. It’s very hard when you already have like a bad relationship. Right. Okay, here we go.
lemme get a drink of my energy drink here. It’s just to warm up my vocals because. I’m telling you guys, these allergies are just like making my throat scratchy.
Hijacked Wedding Family of the Groom’s Control
Okay, here we go. Mother of the groom confessions. These are stories from the vault. So someone sent me these stories, okay? It’s finally my turn to share.
My husband and I had a set wedding date that was really meaningful to us, it also worked well with one of our closest friend’s work schedules. His mom had found a venue she thought would be perfect, but it wasn’t available on the date we’d chosen. She asked me what I thought about it, and if we’d consider switching dates.
I told her it was a beautiful venue, but I wanted to keep looking. We really wanted that specific date and I was also considering something outdoors. Then I went to work. When I got home, my husband was buzzing with excitement saying how thrilled he was that we had a venue and locked in our date. What? I was totally confused.
Turns out my mother-in-law had gone ahead and booked the venue anyway without waiting for our answer, just assuming she knew best. You are kidding me. Okay. I take back everything I said about reading crazy stories. This is the craziest mother of the groom story I’ve ever read. Why would you take that into your own hands?
And then I’m also wondering, I know that’s probably gonna come up, but I’m also wondering why the fiance heard it from his mom and was like, okay, this is awesome. This is cool. Wouldn’t he go to his like fiance first and be like, Hey, this is weird. Did you talk to my mom? But he’s like excited for it. Come on.
Okay, because we had agreed that his family would be covering the costs for the venue, I felt cornered. I ended up going along with a change and just tried to make it work. No. Oh my gosh. I feel terrible for her because here’s the thing, like, oh, I feel so bad for her because it’s like the husband comes in or partner comes in he’s like.
Oh, this is so great. We got this venue. So then she sees his excitement after already talking to the mom, the mother-in-law, and now she feels like she has to say yes because they’re paying for the venue. in reality she already told the mom like, no, I’m gonna keep looking. And she was like, you know what?
Screw you. I’m gonna do what I want anyways. no, it’s not your wedding. Oh my gosh. A few weeks later, I was talking about wedding dress in SPO during a family dinner with his side of the family. That’s when my father-in-law decided it was his job to take charge of my wedding dress, even though my family was paying for it.
Okay. In general, it’s weird that the family thinks that they have control over her wedding dress, but the father-in-law. I wouldn’t trust my own father to pick out my wedding dress. I wouldn’t trust my husband to pick out my wedding dress and he is got great style, but so it’s nothing against that. It’s just that’s such a personal, personal thing.
Oh my gosh. He insisted I buy it on Amazon to save money. But I had no problem spending $900 plus on my husband’s suit. That seems like a lot of money. We spent, gosh, I think under 300 from my husband’s suit. this isn’t sponsored or anything, but we used Modern Groom and it was like so easy. They sent it to us at home.
My husband and I are very like, let’s check the boxes. Like we. I don’t need to go somewhere and see 10 suits and see which one looks best. We pretty much were like, let’s look at them online and do it like, I don’t know. I know everybody’s different. That was just us, $900 plus for a suit, but he wanted her to order her dress on Amazon.
I politely told him I’d figure the dress out with my mom. He went ahead and ordered several dresses anyway was furious when I told him I’d already made a decision with my mom. Ew, I’m sorry. That is gross behavior. They are to completely like pulling her out of her own wedding situation. I need to talk to this person and get her on the podcast because this is like what?
That moment pretty much set the tone for the rest of the wedding planning. Tense. Okay. So again, where’s the fiance in all this? Why is he not backing her up and be like, dad, that’s fricking weird. Why are you ordering wedding dresses for my fiance on Amazon? What? he should be standing in here saying like, no, this isn’t okay.
I’m getting heated guys. Okay. My mother-in-law wanted to plan every little detail. She constantly reminded me that I hadn’t been married before, almost as if it was her way of justifying why she needed to take over. Oh, I’m so mad for her. Any bride, I mean I should say, majority of brides haven’t been through that before, and even if they’ve been married before.
Typically I see like they do a different style, like they do something different. Right. But it’s like even if she had been married before, I feel like this mother-in-law would’ve come in and been like, no, we need to do it my way. Like, why is that any constellation to be able to go in? She’s probably been married 30 years, so things have changed a lot since she got married.
So she’s trying to like redo her wedding through her son and daughter-in-law. It’s like, no, no, no, no. She kept pushing for her daughter, my sister-in-law, who I’m not close with to be one of the bridesmaids. Apparently she wasn’t a bridesmaid in her other sister-in-law’s wedding five years ago, and my mother-in-law wanted to fix that.
Oh my gosh. This family, I explained kindly that I had a specific vision and that anyone who wanted to wear a specific color to the wedding was welcome to wear dark green, but it wasn’t required. Later I got a message from my sister-in-law, double checking the color she’d been told by my mother-in-law, and it was the exact color of my bridesmaid dresses.
Why am I not surprised? Oh my gosh. I talked to her directly. She was super understanding, and from then on she came to me to confirm details. Oh my gosh. This mom was just like, Nope, it’s my wedding. Now I’m gonna do what I want. But the craziest thing, it happened a couple months before the wedding when we were sending out invites.
I had a few friends come over to help address envelopes and had previously asked my mother-in-law for all of her addresses the day of, she told me to just drop off the invites and send them out herself. No, I’m calling it now. I dunno what’s gonna happen. Do not do that. Do not do that. Someone that’s already ignoring your every wish.
your, every vision for the wedding is not gonna follow through with that simple task. No. Okay. I don’t like the next sentence. I was rushing to work, so I dropped them off and said I’d come pick up whatever was left later. No, But Why do we need the mother-in-law to send them out herself if they’re already labeled and everything?
Ugh. Biggest mistake she says. After she mailed the invitations, she casually mentioned we might need to do a reprint. I was confused. I had like 59 extras. Why would we need more later that week? While checking over the shared guest list spreadsheet, which I finalized eight months ago and shared with both sets of parents and my husband, I found the issue.
She sent out over 100 extra invitations about a month and a half before the wedding. My like planner self is getting so bent outta shape right now. This is not, oh my gosh. We need like a mean bridesmaid for every one of these nice brides because this is not okay. And again, where is the husband? Where is the fiance?
Also you don’t need to share. Your guest list with everyone. I had no reason to be like protective of my stuff, but like I don’t need to send my guest list to every single person, so just my husband and I had it like, why does everyone need to see every single person? We reached out to all the parents and they sent us their list, and I took care of everything else.
Again, if someone’s already showing you not to trust them, don’t trust them with a new and important task. Okay. She says, my family was providing the food, so I was beyond frustrated. I had always said they could invite as many people as they wanted, but it needed to be finalized months in advance. I asked my husband if he recognized the names he didn’t or were they distant cousins?
He had specifically said didn’t want there, or they were distant cousins that he specifically said he didn’t want there. the worst part, because the invites were already sent, I had no way to contact these people and uninvite them. I’m exhausted. I am exhausted for this bride. I cannot believe that this happened.
I am so sorry. couple more things that happened behind my back too. She tried to gather baby photos of me, even though I specifically said I did not want a slideshow or a wedding video. She tried to invite her own guest list to a bridal shower that was being hosted by my aunt. Why am I not surprised?
She did a hundred extra people to the wedding? I didn’t know what happened with this. Okay, let’s see. Then came the wedding day. People showed up late. Two of my husband’s groomsmen arrived an hour and a half after they were supposed to, and 30 minutes after the ceremony was scheduled to start. What? Oh my gosh.
People need to be reminded a hundred times. Some people need to be reminded a hundred times. Luckily we have no one late for our wedding, but I hear it happen all the time. we asked everyone to arrive an hour early for photos. Even my in-laws showed up 30 minutes late, adding to the chaos.
Luckily, once the ceremony started, everything turned out beautifully, but the lead up absolute hell. I need to know how this ended. I need to reach out to her and ask her what? The heck happened after this. Like, what is going on here? Because this is literally insane. The fact that a hundred x people were invited.
I need to know, like, did you need a bigger venue, a bigger room? How much was the cost, like. It was probably one of those where she was like, the mother-in-law was like, we’re paying for it. So if I wanna invite more people, I can. It’s my party now. that’s where I’m like, don’t accept money from people.
They’re gonna hold strings over your head and dangle it like a carrot. Right. if people want to help as a gift and you respect them and they respect you, then yes, let’s do it. If they wanna help, that’s great. If you already have a weird relationship, if they’re trying to control things, no, we’re not gonna ask for that.
We’re not gonna accept the help. again, where’s the fiance? Where’s the fiance in all of this? And why is he just on the Back burner or behind the scenes when his mom’s taking the lead. your wedding was hijacked. They, they took it from you. And I feel like those are the kind of weddings where people are most unhappy when they look back.
I’m glad she’s able to say, you know what? Everything turned out beautifully. Maybe it’s just me, but I would not be so, I wouldn’t be so like, cheerful about that. I’d be like, you know what, this was my, time to do my thing and it was taken from me, so I dunno. Oh my gosh. I feel like my blood pressure is up from that story.
A Wedding Day Gone Off the Rails
All right, I got one more short, one short-ish, so let’s get into it. All right. We almost canceled the wedding.
Everyone in our families was horrible to us. My mom made a huge deal about my dad coming with his wife. They’ve been married for 10 years. My mother-in-law was against the whole thing because in her view, you’re supposed to date for exactly five years first and already have bought a house. Oh my gosh.
Where people come up with these things. Some people get married after six months. Some people get married after six years. Some people get married for 20 years some people already have kids first. Like, why does it matter to you? If two people decide together, Hey, let’s get married. Just let them, oh my gosh.
I can’t imagine being so like stuck in my ways. We were 33 and 36 and we didn’t see the need to wait. I. She didn’t approve of my red inexpensive wedding shoes or my pre-ordered dress from Ali Express. She didn’t like that. My venue only held 100 people, that we invited only close friends and immediate family, and that her cousins weren’t invited, that we didn’t have a formal dinner, and that we skipped a dance floor altogether.
What that sounds like to me is that it’s just two people that were right to get married and knew exactly what they wanted, and I think that’s amazing. All weddings don’t have to be the same. All weddings don’t have to have a dance floor or an open bar or a formal dinner. Do what makes sense for you if you just wanna party and have some cake, invite your favorite people more power to you.
I don’t get why. I bet people get so like uptight about it. We hosted a five hour gathering with an open bar and buffet full of food. What more could you ask for? You got a full buffet of food and you got an open bar. I mean, that would make me happy. you don’t really need much else. Right. She even hated that.
My husband made my wedding bouquet himself. He crafted it as a final gift. I think that’s amazing. Wow. I received before walking down the aisle. He made it as a gift. I received walk before walking down the aisle. One of his close friends handed it to me right before I entered. love that. I’ve never heard of that before.
I actually laughed the whole way down the aisle because my mom didn’t make it to the church on time. Where is this Poor girl’s family. My mother-in-law shushed me for laughing. She had already screamed at my husband the night before. My mom wasn’t at the church because she wasn’t ready. Oh my gosh. I had gone to her house to have my makeup and hair done, but I was left alone while she and my younger sister disappeared to another part of the house to get themselves ready.
My older sister stayed with me for a bit, even though she was pregnant with twins. She eventually left for the church. Oh my gosh. I just don’t understand. People just can’t be there for someone else let them shine on their day. It’s so disappointing to hear these stories where they’re like, yeah, I was alone, or My mom didn’t come, or My maid of honor was late, or The groomsman never showed up.
It’s like, come on. It’s not that hard. Be on time or be where you need to be for people that you really care about. It was so sad that even the photographer left quietly without saying anything. I was ready to go, but my mom still wasn’t, and she told me to wait because she needed more time.
I said, not my problem, and left. She arrived 15 minutes later. Okay. That’s crazy that the photographer left really though. ’cause that has a contract tied to it. You shouldn’t just leave your photographer. My mother-in-law invited her cousins to the church anyway. One of my husband’s female cousins wore a white dress another white dress debacle.
I went out to the terrace with one of my best friends for a cigarette, one of my husband’s other cousins followed me to see what I was doing and didn’t leave until I did. Weird. Later. One of my husband’s brothers told me that now I was a part of the family. He hated me and then punched my sister’s husband in the face.
What? Okay, this is weird. So there’s family drama, and with all of that, I was still so happy. I honestly didn’t care, but I cut them all off after that. I don’t know how people move forward after these crazy events take place. I could not stand to be like at a holiday with someone that treated my family like that.
Sounds like she cut them off, but like that’s hard ’cause it’s your husband’s family and if you have kids together or if you move, or all these other big life events like. Where’s the family now? so that’s terrible. I’m props to you for having good boundaries and all that, but gosh, both these stories are wild, wild, wild.
You guys know, we have a lot of mother-in-law stories, and again, not all mothers, but these stories right here, were sent by two different, couples. We get a lot of them just because I think a lot of brides follow me, but I do my best to go through different quote unquote problem. People, right. So, we just get a lot of mother of the groom stories, but I promise you there are crazy stories about every member I’ve seen.
Oh my gosh. I think I need get my blood pressure checked. That’s that first story was wild, you guys. Oh my gosh. Okay. Well that was a wild ride. Thank you guys for listening and being a part of my wedding party Patreon. It means so much to me that you guys are here. and take the time to hang out with me here.
a lot of fun to put these episodes together because I kind of feel like it’s. Off the hook. I don’t know. I put a lot of planning behind it, but it’s just different than the regular episodes. So it’s fun to do these little bonus ones. If you guys love this episode, please do me a huge favor and tell one friend about this Patreon.
Share it on social media, share it with a friend in a text message, whatever that is. just spreading the word really helps, more people hear about it. So let’s keep that going. Next month, we are gonna chat all about the wedding guest stories. And this is one we haven’t really talked too much about.
So I’ve got some good ones from the vault that I’m gonna share with you. And if you guys have a story that you wanna contribute from a wedding that you’ve been to or you’ve seen, or your own wedding, or you’ve read it somewhere, send it to me in the, wedding party, Patreon group chat, or you can message it to me anywhere.
And, I’ll try to get it on the show. All right guys. Thanks so much for hanging out with me this month, and I will see you next time. And until next time, keep the drama fun and the champagne flowing. Bye now.
All right guys. I hope you enjoyed that special. Look at a Patreon episode at full disclosure. We are currently pause on Patreon right now, so if you’re looking to sign up, don’t, ’cause it won’t be there. to be completely transparent, I just don’t have the bandwidth right now, so I just didn’t feel like it was right for me to.
Keep creating content over there when I just didn’t feel like I could give all of myself to it. So I’m putting more into the skits, more into my book, and then more into, of course, these podcast episodes here. So I hope you guys enjoyed it again, that was such a fun episode for me to put together, and I’m glad more of you guys can listen to it.
The Thanksgiving Reveal That Changed Everything
Now as promised, here’s the first chapter of my audiobook. Here comes the drama. Enjoy.
Part one, chapter one, Kate can’t believe her ears. She picks up her glass of wine, throws back what’s left, then stands up and storms out of the living room with a loud huff. Her daughter Jenny, watches her leave in pure confusion, then glances at everyone else before quickly jumping off the couch to follow her.
Mom, are you okay? She yells after her hurrying closer. She notices a drop of red wine has stained her mom’s white blouse. Ugh. I just know she’s doing this to get my son away from me. Kate charges into the next room looking unsteady, like she’s about to burst. What are you talking about, Jenny? Quickly, interjects Sloan isn’t taking anyone away from you.
Her eyes drift toward the window where snow has just started falling. At first it was light and quiet, barely noticeable, but now it’s beginning to fall in thick clumps, sticking to the glass, like something trying to get in. Kate pushes up her round brown glasses as a be of sweat drips from her forehead.
Did you not just hear them? They come waltzing in here on Thanksgiving to tell us they’re not going to be here on Christmas. Her voice trembles with a mix of hurt and disbelief For a moment, she questions whether or not she’s overreacting, but the thought vanishes as quickly as it came. Her stance is firm now.
There’s no going back. Jenny looks at her mother dumbfounded. She takes a deep breath to save herself from calling out her mother’s ridiculousness right here, right now. Yeah, they planned a vacation together. I think it’s perfectly acceptable. She runs a hand through her long, dirty blonde hair, exhaling sharply.
You can’t tell them not to go on vacation together. The snow was falling harder Now. Piling on the windowsill in soft, heavy heaps, like the weight of everything left unsaid in the room. But on Christmas, there are 364 other days of the year. Why’d they have to pick Christmas? Kate’s voice gets louder each time she talks and there is clear panic in her voice like she’s been robbed.
My guess is because they wanted to spend the holidays together. Jenny sarcastically replies, this isn’t some weird thing for a boyfriend to do with his girlfriend. Kate rolls her eyes before putting her head down and her hands and mumbling. You just watch Jenny. This is how it all starts. Then soon they’re just not going to show up for certain holidays.
She looks up staring off as if she just had an epiphany hearing her own words. Mom. You should be happy that Ferris found someone he loves and wants to spend his time with. Jenny says, resting a hand on her mom’s back. Now can we go back out there, put on a happy face, and enjoy the rest of Thanksgiving?
She raises both point of fingers to the corners of her mouth, exaggerating a smile. After a long pause, Kate pulls a tissue out of her pocket and dabs her face. Although Jenny didn’t see any tears. Fine. Kate stands tall, touches up her short brown hair, and forces a painful, wide smile. How’s this great?
Jenny gives her a swift thumbs up and gestures for her mother to follow her back out into the living room where the others are. GI is the first to step back into her parents’ living room. Where she spots her brother, Ferris at the fridge, grabbing two beers, one for their dad, Ted, and one for himself. The room is warm with the scent of Thanksgiving leftovers, and the muffled hum of conversation drifts in from the dining room.
You need more wine, babe. Ferris calls out over his shoulder. His voice casual but affectionate. His short, faintly golden hair with brown undertones is slightly tussled. A few strands falling in his face as he reaches for the fridge. Sloan is curled up on the couch, legs crossed, swirling the last bit of red wine in her glass, her long, almost black hair drapes over one shoulder, catching the warm glow of the Christmas lights.
She’s wearing a soft knit sweater, dress in a deep burgundy, paired with thick socks, comfortable yet casually stylish in a way that almost seems natural to her. She looks over at him with a small knowing. Smile. No, I still have some left. Thanks, Sloane. Smirks and turns just a little as she notices. Jenny walking back in.
Oh hey, everything okay? Her eyes flick between Jenny and Kate searching for any sign of what just happened. She knew Kate was upset about the trip. But sometimes it was easier to pretend she didn’t notice than to invite more drama. Yeah. Sorry about that. Jenny says quickly, my mom thought she ate something bad.
Her voice is light, but there’s a flicker of something else beneath it before Sloan can press GI shifts gears. So anyway, tell us more about your trip. Where are you guys going? She walks right up to Sloan and sits down at the chair across from her. Kate Reenters the room lingering near the doorway, arms crossed displeasure, practically radiating off her.
We’re going to Santa Monica. Sloan replies quietly combing her hair behind her ear. I’ve never been before. Ferris knows I hate the snow, so he planned for a warm vacation to get us out of here. It was all his idea, so he’ll have more of the details. She looks over at Ferris now seated next to her on the couch, Ferris hands, beer to his dad.
Then takes a sip of his own and leans back. Yeah, I mean, I don’t have too much planned yet, but I thought we’d escape the dreaded Milwaukee winter and soak up some sun for once. He nods toward the window where thick clumps of snow swirl in the wind. Before reaching over and gently taking Sloan’s hand Sloan glances down at their intertwined fingers, a soft smile forming as warmth blooms in her chest.
But even in the comfort of this moment, she can feel Kate’s disapproval lingering like a heavy cloud that refuses to pass. That sounds amazing. Jenny jumps in quickly. What do you think, mom? Doesn’t that sound fun? Her voice is too chipper. Eyes flicking toward Kate with the hope that a simple question might smooth over the crack in the room.
Ted shifts slightly in his chair. His gaze fixed on his wife. He raises his eyebrows just enough to signal, go easy, try to be happy, but it’s clear he’s bracing himself after almost 30 years of marriage. He knows her moods, her tells he knows exactly where this could be headed. When Kate answers, yeah, it sounds great.
With a snap of sarcasm. Ted Exhales just barely for a split second. It seems like that might be the end of it, but then he catches the sudden shift. In her expression. She gasps his shoulders, stiffen. Here it comes. Maybe we should all go. Her somber mood instantly flips to excitement making her way to the front of the room.
Sloan tenses, every instinct screams at her to shut the idea down, but she hesitates. It’s not her place. Kate has always been dismissive of her. Why would this moment be any different? Funny mom, Ferris cuts in forcing a chuckle, but there’s an edge of unease in his voice. No, I’m serious. Wouldn’t it be great?
Kate stands as if she’s launching into a full blown presentation. She turns to her husband, eyes bright with enthusiasm. Ted, shouldn’t we go? Ted? Takes a deep breath. Kate. We can go to Santa Monica any other time. I don’t think we need to hijack our son’s vacation with his girlfriend. He runs a hand across his forehead as if trying to smooth out the wrinkles.
He’s certain are forming. Oh, come on. It’ll be so much fun to spend Christmas together in California. Kate is starting to act like this is the best idea she’s ever had. She turns back towards Ferris, gesturing to the Christmas tree already up in the living room, decorated with ornaments, with brief reminders of their childhood.
You know how much Christmas means to me. Ferris opens his mouth like he’s about to say something when a defeated look appears on his face, and he stops. He knows his mom. She doesn’t take hearing no very well, and it would turn into a huge ordeal if he tries to push back Now. He tries to figure out a way to get her to back off a bit and decides to change the subject.
Leaning forward and peeking around Sloan to catch his dad’s eye. Wow. Dad, I am so full. That Turkey you made was fantastic. Way better than last year’s. Ted Beams about to respond. When Kate jumps in. It was, you really know how to make the holidays special around here. All of you. Her smile is a little too bright as she claps her hands together.
Now, who wants dessert? She asks already pivoting toward the kitchen. That sounds great. I’ll help you. Jenny says, as she shakes her head behind her mom and disappointment, as Kate and Jenny disappear into the kitchen, Ted leans in lowering his voice for only Ferris and Sloan to hear. Hey. He says, offering a warm smile.
I think the trip sounds perfect. You too deserve it. He pauses his eyes flicking toward the kitchen, and you know how your mother is. She just needs a minute to adjust. Don’t let it ruin your plans. Ferris puts his arm around Sloan gently pulling her closer. There was no doubt in his mind. Sloan didn’t want his mom on their couple’s vacation and he wasn’t going to let it happen.
It wasn’t unusual for his mom to try to control new situations. In the past, he might’ve let it slide, but not this time. Sloan was different. She was his person. She was articulate, compassionate and beautiful, but not in a way that banked for attention. More like the kind of beauty that you noticed slowly.
Then couldn’t unsee. Ferris used to tell his mom everything back when he was a kid. It had felt natural, easy even. She always knew what to say. Always had a plan. But then he remembered the summer after seventh grade. He had been obsessed with skateboarding, saving up every dollar from mowing lawns to buy his first board.
He and his best friend Ben, would spend hours practicing tricks, wiping out on the pavement, laughing at their bruises until Kate decided it was dangerous. He’s a bad influence. She had told him one night, arms crossed, lips pressed into a thin line. Always pushing you to do reckless things. You’ll break an arm Ferris, and what about school?
You need to focus. He had argued, of course he had, but then came the nagging, the disappointed size, the gentle, but firm reminders of all the things she had done for him. I’m only trying to protect you, and so he quit. He told Ben he was too busy and that his mom needed his help around the house. It wasn’t true, but it was easier than fighting about it or living with guilt.
Now, years later, Ferris knew better. He saw the pattern, the way she packaged control as concern. It wasn’t just about skateboarding or friends or even his career. It was everything, every choice, every step he took, which is why he barely told her anything anymore. They enjoyed their dessert together.
Moving past the idea of them all, going to Santa Monica for Christmas. Ferris did his best to get his mom talking about her new book club with the neighbor Ladies after dessert, he and Sloane start inching their way to the door, getting on their shoes and coats so they can head home. Oh, leaving so soon.
Kate’s voice carries a hint of surprise, though it’s clear she’s more focused on keeping them there than acknowledging how difficult she could be. Sloan turns and smiles at Kate trying to keep things light. Yeah, it’s getting light. I’m hoping to call my mom on the way home since we didn’t get to see her this year for Thanksgiving.
Kate ignores Sloan’s comment and turns towards Ferris. Well, bye guys. It was so great having you guys here for Thanksgiving, as you should be for all holidays. Kate accentuates the all to make sure they remember where she stands. Ferris forces a smile before placing his hand on Sloan’s back as they turn to leave.
I’ll meet you in the car in just a sec. I forgot to grab some pie to take home. Oh yeah, sure. Bye Kate. Bye, Ted. Thanks again for having us. The food was delicious. Sloan says, wrapping her scarf around her neck as she stepped out of the house. Okay, so there’s pumpkin and apple pie left. Which did you want?
You know what, I’ll go grab you some of each. Kate says as she hurs into the kitchen. Um, I’ll have some apple, but actually I don’t really need any pie. Ferris says, checking to make sure Sloan hasn’t walked back into the house. He looks directly at his mom. Can I talk to you for a second? Sure. Of course.
Look, I’m really excited for this vacation. I’m going to start planning tonight. Kate interrupts a little too quickly. Ted easing his way back into the living room, props his legs up in the recliner. His eyes are tired and it’s clear he’s had enough for the night. He knows exactly how his wife can be, so he shuts down, retreating into his own space.
No, mom, you can’t come. Ferris says his tone firmer this time. What do you mean? Why? Oh wait. You’re breaking up with Sloan, aren’t you? I knew something was off tonight. What? No, nothing was off with us tonight. I’d really like this trip to just be Sloan and me so we can have some time alone. A long time.
Kate Scoffs. What do you need alone time for? You already live together. I hardly see you anymore. She pauses before adding. I wouldn’t want to intrude, but maybe I could just stay nearby. Dad and I will get our own hotel room. We’ll have our own time, but we can meet up for dinners and stuff. She continues rummaging through the kitchen cabinets.
Searching for a container bag big enough for the leftover pie. No, I’m sorry. I love you, but this trip is for Sloan in me. I need you to respect that Ferris states for a moment. Kate wonders if she’s being too harsh, if maybe she’s giving him a reason to pull away. But the thought is bleeding. She quickly reminds herself of everything she’s done for him over the years.
He still needs her. Well, what if something happens? I could help you plan it. It’s already planned and paid for Ferris Exhales. But look, I need to tell you why. It just needs to be the two of us. Okay? Kate stops what she’s doing and stands there wide-eyed, staring at her son. Actually, I kind of want to tell Dad too really quickly.
Hey dad, can you come in here, Ted Hurries over from the other room to join them. So really quick, I want to talk to you and mom to let you know why I want to take Sloan on vacation. Just the two of us. Oh man, I think I know where this is going. Ted says, with a big smile on his face. Ferris looks over at his mom.
Who looks like she’s just seen a ghost. I actually plan on surprising Sloan and proposing the first night we’re there, the room goes silent and Ferris looks at both of his parents for any kind of approval. Ted looks at Kate waiting for her reaction, proposing what? She responds slowly. Her voice tinged with uncertainty as she tries to piece it all together.
She knew exactly what he meant, but if he saw how confused she was, maybe he would take it as a sign that the timing wasn’t right. Come on, Kate. Ted finally jumps in. Oh my gosh, Ferris, this is so exciting. He walks up and wraps his arms around his son. Giving him a strong, reassuring pat on the back, the silent gesture filled with unspoken.
Congratulations. Kate just stands there staring at the two of them, vowing her naivety. Marriage Mom Ferris says, is he loosened his dad’s grip on him and turns. What else am I going to propose? What, but you hardly know her. Are you sure she’s the right one for you? She starts shuffling around the kitchen, cleaning up items from dinner, forgetting about the pie completely.
Ted is caught in the middle looking around like he’s praying for an out. I don’t consider two and a half years together. Hardly knowing each other. Yes, I know she’s the right one for me. Ferris’s voice is tight as he peers out the window behind him to make sure Sloan is okay in the car. His mom isn’t backing down, but you are so young.
Maybe just give it some more time. Ted can’t hold his tongue anymore. I think what your mom is trying to say is congratulations, right to Kate, he says. Looking over at her, giving her every opportunity to change her tune. Congratulations. It hasn’t even happened yet. He is just telling us his hypothetical plan.
He still has to really think about it. She smiles. I don’t think you realize how big of a decision this truly is for her. She says Condescendingly putting her hand on the counter to reach out and touches. Ferris pulls his hand back and moves away from the counter. Okay, well I can see where this conversation is going.
He takes a moment to take a breath and gather himself. Thank you Dad for the congratulations. Sloan’s waiting in the car, so I gotta get going, but um, thanks. I guess he hurries past his parents and out the door before he realizes he forgot the pie Shit.
Dealing with Burnout, FIL Demands and a Bride Pushed to Her Limits
My new book Here Comes the Drama: A Ferris and Sloan Story is live!
One wedding. Too many problems. Not enough boundaries.
There is always some level of chaos and stress around a wedding, but this one pushes well past it. What starts with a condition between the bride’s last name quickly unravels into late-night drives, missing hotel rooms, and plans that never quite land. It’s never just the tension in the background. It shows up in guests crossing boundaries, bringing uninvited plus-ones, breaking child-free rules, and inserting themselves where they should not. Turning into a steady stack of drama, each moment making it harder to ignore.
This episode opens on a more personal note, where I share more about burnout, the pressure to stay consistent, and navigating a major life transition, before getting into hot takes on wedding expectations, financial pressure, and the boundaries people tend to forget.
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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments
- Burnout Reality – Balancing content creation, burnout, and being present as a mom, and what that actually looks like behind the scenes.
- Hot Takes Segment – Bridesmaids becoming a financial burden, destination weddings and saying no, and why registries and extra events can go too far.
- The Night Before the Wedding – Last-minute tasks, delays, and a hotel room that never quite comes together.
- The Father-in-Law’s Condition – A demand around the bride’s last name that turns the wedding into a negotiation before it even begins.
- The $100 Bar Contribution – A promise to “cover the bar” that raises bigger questions about control and intent.
- Guests Crossing the Line – Uninvited plus-ones, a child-free wedding being disregarded, and guests showing up without respect for the couple’s boundaries.
- Backhanded Comments – Remarks about the bride’s appearance and behavior that cross from uncomfortable into outright disrespectful.
- The Breaking Point – A series of moments that build until the situation feels less like stress and more like something that cannot be ignored.
Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode
- “It’s okay to step back and take a breath. People will survive.”
- “Their lives still move on. Your wedding is the most important day to you, not to everyone else.”
- “You should not feel guilty about not attending a destination wedding. It’s an invitation, not a demand.”
- “At the end of the day, we can only take these as lessons for future events.”
- “You should not expect a gift if someone declines your wedding invite.”
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Christa Innis: Once I was fully dressed, I walked into the room where my mom was, where my mom was expecting at least some kind of reaction. Instead, she looked at me and said, you know, weddings are really about the mother of the bride. What? This is actually my day. I can’t believe when people say this is, did this really happen?
Christa Innis: Hi guys. Welcome to my final episode of, here Comes the Drama filmed in this room. Did I scare you guys? So, this is the last time I’ll be filming a podcast episode or anything at this house. as you guys know, I am moving. many of you guys know, I don’t really share too many personal details, so it’s just kind of been a here and there thing.
I don’t plan on sharing too much. I like to keep my. Private life, private, you know, security and privacy is very important to me, so that’s one of the main reasons, but it’s very bittersweet. my husband and I have been here six years. Of course, this is my daughter’s first home, and so I feel like there’s like a lot of like unspoken anxiety about all that.
Not just with moving, but I’ve just been dealing with a lot of anxiety lately. It’s okay if I get a little vulnerable with you guys. I feel like this is a safe place for me to get vulnerable because people that are gonna take the time to listen to the podcast usually are pretty invested and are, loyal listeners.
Mom Life, Content Creation, and Burnout Cycles
Like the content. So I know this is a little shift from the beginning, I promise you we’ll get to the drama, but I just wanna be real with you guys. I mean, creating content is a dream. Like it’s so much fun. Of course, that’s not the only thing I do as many people think, but. it really is the dream.
It’s so much fun. I’ve worked in social media marketing for a long time and I love it. it’s fun to be able to create and being able to turn this into books I have many more plans for that of course, but there’s a lot of burnout that comes with it and, Like the feeling that I am, this could be be gone in a second.
And I put a lot of pressure on myself. And even with this move, I was like, originally I’m like, I’m gonna give myself a week off. But then I get this panic feeling of like, if I don’t post, people will be mad if I don’t post. Which it feels wild to think, but it’s like I’ve made this like part of my career and so I’m like, I don’t wanna let people down.
I wanna be creating. and it’s just hard sometimes to find the balance. you know, even when I worked corporate jobs, I definitely dealt with burnout. Definitely. Like, I would say at least once a quarter I would deal with some kind of burnout, because I go, go, go, go, go. I say yes to everything. I stay late, I arrive early, you know, whatever that is.
and then there’s just, it like slowly hits me and then it’s just like, damn. I need to like, close my computer, turn off my phone and like pull myself away from anything for a while. And I know I’m starting to feel that ’cause there’s just so much going on right now. And so, like, even as, as I’m recording this, by the time you guys hear this, it’ll be like six weeks later.
So hopefully I’m out of this. But, As the time I’m recording this, we’re moving in a couple days and I’m still recording and filming. You know, like my closet is still, I’m filming in my closet at this place. Hunt’s one of the reasons we need to move, but, and I’m still surrounded by clothes. so I need to be moving everything out tomorrow.
I just, I hold onto a lot and I feel a lot of imposter syndrome with doing all this. Um, I’m not gonna try to get too vulnerable because I always feel like if someone’s listening, it’s their first time, they’re gonna be like, uh, Ron for the hills. but I deal with such bad imposter syndrome. I feel like I’m constantly trying to be liked by people.
and so when I go to post, I’m like, oh my gosh, are they gonna like me? Um. This is like long before, you know, social media or making content on this page. That’s just something I’ve always dealt with. I remember bosses coming to me and being like, you’re doing so great. Like, you know, thanks for getting us to this achievement or doing this.
And I’d be like, who are they talking to? They’re not talking to me. There’s no way. it’s just something I’ve always dealt with. and I remember posting about this before and I had so many people send me messages that were just so kind and so helpful. I just feel like at any moment. All of this could be pulled away from me, and that can happen with anything.
Um, and I need to constantly remind myself that, um, sorry guys, that just to take it like day by day, I need to constantly remind myself to take things day by day and, allow myself to have breaks. I like being productive and I like doing things and getting things done, but I also like being a very present mom.
And so that’s also shifted how I work. it’s hard for me to a hundred percent focus on work when she’s awake or when she’s out or needs me because, she’s such a pivotal point, like part of my life of course. And so I wanna be very present. She’s a very present father too, you know, and so, like, he’s obviously very capable, but it’s just like, I don’t wanna miss on moments too.
So I find I’m constantly in this fight or flight mode, and maybe I need to talk to someone about that, not just on the podcast. Maybe I’m just letting it all out now. but yeah, I feel like I’m in this fight or flight mode a lot of the times because I’m, uh, always, you know, when I’m with my daughter.
Like, you know, helping her or, you know, assisting or whatever I need to do. then when I have limited time to get stuff done, I’m like, okay, let’s put this on a list. I have to get through these five things in the next three hours. or when she’s down for bed, then I’m like, okay, I’m gonna get through these things, but I’m exhausted.
And so a lot of people don’t know that that’s what kind of goes on behind the scenes. usually like I have like two good days that I’m like very focused on work and like. That’s like my husband’s out there with my daughter. and then the other days I kind of flop it where like, my husband focuses on work and then I am, with my daughter, in the mornings we kind of.
Not that anyone cares about our schedules. Um, but it’s just like, I feel like I’m always in this fight or flight. Like people are like, oh, where’s the next part? And that’s just kind of a little more behind the scenes. And it’s kind of wild because it’s like anytime I’m in a burnout stage, it’s like you’re doing stuff you love and that’s what’s the hard part.
’cause you’re like, well, like my husband will be like, well, just don’t post something today. And I’m like, but I love the creation. It makes me feel. Valid. It makes me feel like I’m, accomplishing something. It makes me feel like I’m doing something. but at the same time, I think it’s an important lesson.
So for anyone that’s listening and needs this advice, I feel like it’s an important lesson. Like when we get that feeling of burned out, that it’s okay to step back and, , you know. Take a breath and people will survive. If you know nothing is life or death. That’s why I always say I am like, I remember when I did my marketing job, six years ago, and that boss would always say like, you know what, nothing is life or death like seriously, If the sales report doesn’t get done by the end of the week, it’s okay. so that’s a good reminder. You know, it’s like, it’s good to, you know, just take a step back and do something for you. I’ve been trying to do like meditation and stuff too, so that was a rabbit hole. Also, I think I need to stop reading comments.
But anyway, how are you guys doing? I hope you guys are doing great. I just needed to get that out. I feel like there’s like just a lot of like emotion and feeling with this place like that. I’ve lived here for so long and now we’re like in the midst of packing and there’s just all these like last minute things and, um, I talked about it before, just like.
like a crier, or I was a crier more so before my daughter was born, and now I just feel like I’m always like, go, go, go. I don’t always have time to cry, and it’s like, bam, whoa. Everything’s sending me at once. Okay, I’ll stop being boring. You guys are still hanging on with me. Thanks for listening.
Thanks for being here. Like thanks for letting me get vulnerable. there’s more to come. It’s really hard to be vulnerable. It’s really hard to be vulnerable and share, like, as I said, like I’m very private and I think in the nature of the kind of content I do, being skits and telling stories, I’m able to easily hide, right?
Wedding Hot Takes and Wedding Role Expectation
So it’s like if something’s going on here, I don’t have to bring it on camera. I can just. I can just turn on the character from a skit, that makes it a little bit easier. So I’m trying to be a little more vulnerable and allow myself to share more, but it’s really scary. So thanks for being here. All right, let’s jump into some fun stuff.
we’re gonna start with some hot takes, and then we’ll do the blind reaction story. That seems pretty wild. Okay. All right, here we go. Hot takes. Being asked to be a bridesmaid is more of a financial obligation than an honor these days. Ooh. You know, I would kind of have to agree. I would say there’s a lot of people that mean well by who they want ask in their wedding, and it’s still holds true honor.
However, I think we get caught up in the Pinterest wedding and we want all these. Unrealistic expectations. And I’ve read so many stories where it seems like they just want a number. And that’s sad to me because we lose the point of having like a bridesmaid or a groomsman or someone by your side, it’s caught up in what can they do for me?
What money can they put into the wedding? And that’s just not okay. Um. For me, it was more about the actual person, less about what money can they put in or what time can they put in? And your wedding, like to you, it’s the most important day. But to everybody else, it’s, just another day.
Their lives still move on. So I think we need to remember that. But unfortunately, I do see it many times as being a financial obligation. People are having to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars. I find people writing to me that they’ve gone bankrupt. Because of being in a wedding, and that’s just a true friend would never ha put you in that situation.
Okay. Two plus ones should only be given to couples who have been together for at least a year. Um, I wanna disagree on that. I think it’s just up to the bride and groom. I don’t think it should have to be a certain amount of time. I think, you know, like there’s situations where maybe they’ve just never met your plus one.
They never go to anything. So they have no relationship with them, Do they need to be obligated to invite the person? No, I don’t think so. Especially if you live like outta state, you never see them. but then there’s other couples. Maybe they meet you right away or maybe they meet your plus one right away.
You always hang out so. I don’t think it should matter that you haven’t been together a year. And then some weddings just give plus ones to everybody. I remember going to a wedding where my mom’s friend once years ago, and I got a plus one. I was 19. I wasn’t even, no, maybe 19 or 20, and I was not even planning on bringing a plus one.
I was like, oh, I guess I was bringing my friend from college. So yeah. Number three, if you can’t afford to attend a destination wedding, You shouldn’t feel guilty saying no. No matter how close you are to the couple, yes, 100%. You should not feel guilty about not attending a destination wedding.
It is a request. It’s an invitation, not a demand. You do not have to be there. That’s why I don’t get, when people say destination weddings are selfish, it’s their wedding. They can do whatever they want for their wedding. It’s not selfish. So just in the same way, it’s not selfish for you to say no. It’s not rude for you to say no if you can’t afford it.
Don’t go. I remember being invited to destination wedding years ago, I wanna say maybe 10 years ago, and, loved the couple. we were pretty close with them. I wouldn’t say like best friends, but pretty close. And I just knew we couldn’t afford it. It was just out of our price range. And we said, no, there was no hard feelings.
We saw them like the following weekend and asked ’em all about it, and it was great. Okay. Four engagement parties are unnecessary. And just another gift grab.
I am gonna say yes, they are unnecessary because I don’t want anyone to feel like you have to have one. So yes, I’m gonna say engagement parties are unnecessary. and. In all of my time of going to many, many weddings, I think I’ve only been to one or two engagement parties, and the ones I’ve been to, no, two, two or three.
The ones I’ve been to were more of like a proposal, like fun, surprise, engagement party after. It wasn’t like a special extra party. It was more like we were all waiting at someone’s house and then the couple came and so it turned into like a little mini engagement party. it was like just immediate family, very simple, just like desserts.
Um, I don’t even think there were gifts that I knew of. So it was very simple. So I think you can do it tastefully, and I think it’s. Totally fine to celebrate as an engagement party, but in general, I think they’re unnecessary. I don’t think you have to have one. There’s a lot of pressure. People feel like they have to, they see these, again, these Pinterest boards or social media like beautiful engagement parties, and they’re like, oh my gosh, another expense.
Like I never once felt like I had to have an engagement party again. when I got engaged, two of our best friend couples were there. when the proposal happened, then it turned into like, oh, we were having champagne with like, four of our closest friends. So if you wanna call that a mini engagement party, but not really, right?
No one else was there. Um, five. It’s rude to have a child free wedding if most of your guests have kids. No, it’s not rude. Again, it’s your choice as the couple getting married. Me personally, if I knew most of my guests, like, had small kids and like had to come with them, like maybe I would reconsider, but like a lot of our friends at the time we got married had kids and most of them were like, we need a night out.
We need a night away. But like for example, one of my, brides mates was like. Going through some family stuff before, and she didn’t know if she had a babysitter. And I was like, bring your daughter to the rehearsal dinner. We will figure it out. Like my first thought wasn’t like, keep kids away. It was like, how can I make sure we help you?
What do you need? And she was like, a persistent. She was like, no, no, no, I’m, not bringing her. I’m just, you know, it’s going on. I was like, okay, well that is an option. I’m not gonna turn you away. Like if you need to bring her, we can keep her occupied. There’s plenty of people here to help. but.
No, I never think, I don’t think it’s rude. I would not think it’s rude if someone invited just me and my husband. There are certain places that are only for adults and that’s okay. Six wedding speeches should be ca at three minutes, no exceptions. I’m gonna say no because I’ve heard some longer ones that are fine, but I would never go over like four, five, absolutely. Tops. They should be capped. I would say like four minutes I think is okay. it also depends on how many people are talking. If you have just one person giving a speech, go wild. Go four or five minutes. If you have multiple, then yes, let’s cut it off at two to three minutes.
Okay. Number seven, if the couple is paying for the wedding themselves, they shouldn’t have to invite extended family. They barely know. Um, 100%. Yeah, you I mean, you should never feel like you have to invite someone you don’t know, even if someone else is paying for it. or paying for part of it.
But that needs to be established ahead of time because we hear those crazy stories where people give money with strings attached and they say, well, you have to invite so and so. So before you accept money from somebody or talk about money, make sure it’s established. Like, this is how we’re having the wedding, though.
We will accept a gift of whatever, but this is how we’re doing it. And then if you feel like any strings are attached, then make sure you, uh, don’t accept that money. Okay. Posting your wedding registry for more than once is tacky. I’m gonna go with posting it at all. Um, I don’t think you should be posting your wedding registry.
Where are you posting it? I think you should put it on your bridal shower invite. And I think you should put it on your wedding website invitation. But posting any kind of registry to your social media? No. If that’s what this is talking about, um, no. We shouldn’t be doing GoFundMe or registries to the public.
people that we’re not inviting to these events, people that we don’t know, why are we accepting gifts from people that we wouldn’t invite to our own wedding? So yeah, posting it, no, we’re not gonna post it. Just give it to people that are invited to different events. Bridesmaids shouldn’t have to pay for their own dresses.
Uh, I go back and forth. I feel like if I were to get married now, I wouldn’t make them pay for it. but that was the only thing. I had them pay for everything else, like was covered and I was like, wear whatever shoes you want. Um, and the dresses were under a hundred dollars, but, So it’s kind of like something that you have to establish ahead of time, saying like, okay, I expect you to buy these dresses.
This is the budget we’re gonna look at. Um, it’s one of those things that communication can really help. but don’t make them pay thousands of dollars for a trip. So, yeah, I don’t know. I, I don’t think. It should be a guarantee, but I think if that’s what you kind of have in mind for your own wedding, just make sure you’re clear about it.
All right, last one. If someone declines your wedding invite, you shouldn’t expect to get a gift. I actually 100% agree with this. I think if you are invited to a wedding, if you are close to that person, you just can’t make it. You should send something. It doesn’t need to be huge. Or it could even just be a card, a small gift card, you know, buy a drink next time or out, whatever that is, depending on how close you are.
But as the bride or groom or anyone getting married, you should not expect a gift. For me, like if people said no, I was not expecting to hear from them or get something extra special from them, I’m like, no, you can just text me thing, like, congratulations. I don’t know. But even then it’s just like, no, I don’t think you should expect it.
People decline for all kinds of reasons. One could be financials, maybe they don’t have the money to do it. And I think if we’re inviting someone, it should be on, be beyond what they’re gonna give us. Okay. Here we go. Let’s get to this week’s blind reaction. My wedding was honestly a nightmare surrounded by difficult personalities with the lead up at just as chaotic.
My husband and I were young living in Boston, trying to plan a wedding that wouldn’t break the bank but would still be meaningful. We decided to put more of our money toward our honeymoon and a future down payment on a home that’s very smart. Uh, we got married in the Boston Common with our reception at the Old State House.
My dad contributed a couple thousand dollars, which helped with catering and deposits, and my father-in-law told my husband he would cover the bar. As the wedding got closer, my father-in-law sent a check for the bar for $100. Inside the car, he wrote that we should use it to buy plenty of milk. I still don’t know what that meant.
Wedding for a Condition
Around the same time during a visit to their house, which for contacts was worth over a million dollars, my father-in-law sat me down and told me I was not allowed to hyphenate my last name. I’m sorry, is he gonna be the one that has your name? Why? Why does that bother him? According to him, I either take their last name fully or call off the wedding.
Those are your only two options. Oh my gosh. I know so many women that kept their own last name because of different accomplishments they had. They wanted to keep it on their own name, or. They, Hyphenated. that’s up to you, not anyone else coming in and saying that his partner, who I’ll just refer to as my mother-in-law, okay.
Kept insisting on specific foods she wanted at the wedding and wouldn’t take no for an answer. They’re contributed a hundred dollars to the bar. They don’t have much strings to pull here.
I finally stood my ground and said, it’s my name and I can do what I want with it. And since you’re not contributing to the wedding, you don’t get a say on food. Yes, yes, yes. That didn’t go over well, but I was done being pushed around. We got married in 2000, 2001, just two weeks after nine 11. So travel was already stressful for my family, who all lived outta state.
My sister Dana arrived with my mom. My parents are divorced and it’s always been tense, and my older sister, Rachel, my maid of honor, arrived with her husband. Rachel had told me she booked a hotel suite for the night before the wedding for the two of us. Then she and her husband would stay there afterward.
She also booked a separate room for my husband and me the night of the wedding. That’s very nice. In another room for Dana and my mom. Okay. So she’s got two sisters, Dana and Rachel. Parents are divorced. okay. Rachel is the maid of honor they arrived with. Okay, got it. Got it, got it. Okay. We’re getting this, I feel like I’m always learning these new family trees and then I feel like you guys listening to the Bri all skit and you’re like, um, I don’t understand these connections.
I get it. It’s, it’s very confusing. Okay.
The plan was for Rachel to stay with me the night before the wedding while Dana stayed with my mom and family. The day before the wedding, Rachel and I were running all over the city, finishing last minute tasks. Everything was taking longer than expected. Meanwhile, my mom and Dana were at my aunt’s house about 45 minutes outside the city.
My mom insisted I pick them up later that night so we could all check the hotel later. As the day ran late, I asked her to find another ride since we were already behind. She refused.
Wow. I, there’s something that drives me so crazy about people running late for someone else’s event, like, can you not get it together for one day? Especially a mom like you need to get your shit together. Oh my gosh. So at 11:00 PM I was driving 45 minutes out of the city to pick them up. Sorry. Uh, why is that the bride’s problem?
Oh my gosh, that is wild. Okay. Loading all of my mom’s bags into the car, trying not to ruin my freshly done nails. And then driving back, we finally get to the hotel around midnight and That’s when I found out Rachel had actually booked the only suite for herself and her husband in a regular room for me.
Oh my gosh. No, that’s, oh, no. It’s so disappointing. Okay. At that point, I was too exhausted to even react. I went to bed the next morning, I went to check into my room and started to get ready and was told I didn’t have one. Apparently my reservation had been made at their sister hotel 20 minutes outside the city.
How did her sister mess it up though? Because when you’re on making a reservation, you’re on the one site, so unless she added this room later, you could just say, add a second room, and then it’s all billed together. Apparently my reservation had been made at their sister hotel, 20 minutes outside the city.
While I was trying to fix the situation at the front desk, Dana walked up mid-conversation and interrupted me and said, I thought you were taking me to the store to get a Pepsi. What? I looked over at her and said, you’re older than me. I think you can handle crossing the street to get that one.
Eventually the hotel sorted it out, and I finally got a room. Oh my gosh. I went upstairs and started getting ready, trying to relax. Then it started raining for my outdoor wedding. I ignored it, hoping it would pass while I was doing my makeup. I pulled out a new lipstick I had just bought. Dana walked in and said she loved it and tried to use it.
“It’s About the Mother”
I literally had to take it back from her and explain that. No, I will not be sharing my lipstick on my wedding day. Oh my gosh. Once I was fully dressed, I walked into the room where my mom was expecting at least some kind of reaction. Instead, she looked at me and said, you know, weddings are really about the mother of the bride.
What? This is actually my day. I can’t believe when people say this is, did this really happen? Dude, no. They’re really about the mother of the bride. How full of yourself can you be? I looked straight at her and said, no, it’s not. She just laughed and walked away. Thankfully, the rain stopped and we headed to the Boston Common, but when we arrived, another couple had started setting up a wedding in our exact spot.
Guests Taking It Too Far
My husband showed them our permit, and even though they admitted they didn’t have one. They just asked for a few minutes. 30 minutes later, we were finally able to start the ceremony. When it came time for photos, I started noticing everything else. My father-in-law showed up wearing navy sweatpants in a stained sweatshirt.
Can we now get it together for one day? People are late. You’re showing up like in your holy, like old Holy, I guess shouldn’t say it was holy, but stained sweatshirt. Come on. One of my husband’s friends brought a random date he just met earlier. What, despite not being given a plus one, and she was very clearly not dressed for the occasion, someone else brought their 11 month old baby to our child free wedding, which upset my cousin who had followed the rules and left her kids at home.
That’s the thing too, that really sucks when you have a child free wedding and someone breaks the rules and they’re either just like, allow them or they sneak in. Then the people who actually did, you know, try to get a babysitter. Follow the rules, you know, whatever that looks like. That’s disappointing to them.
’cause they’re like, well, this person was able to do it. So follow the rules. don’t be an a-hole at the reception. My mother-in-law began hovering around the waitstaff, grabbing food of trays off as soon as she, as soon as they came out, okay. At one point, she literally reached between two guests to take their last appetizer before one of them could grab it.
Oh my gosh. Then started stashing the food away instead of eating it. We eventually had to tell her to stop. Then my father-in-law looked at me and said, nice dress. See what a little makeup can do for you. Gross. Okay. This father-in-law is gross. Why is he making comments about like, You have to change your last name or just not get married.
You have to do like, he’s so gross to me. One of my husband’s friends overheard and added, yeah, a nice dress. It looked even better on the floor while nudging me and laughing. Ew. Immediately excused from the wedding. Which husband’s friend? Is he still friends with this person? ’cause that’s a red flag that would make me so incredibly uncomfortable.
Your husband should not be okay with him being your friend or with his friend being like that. Shortly after my cousin handed me her phone and said someone just wanted to talk to me. It was her daughters yelling at me for having a kid’s free wedding and calling me a horrible person. Okay, I get it. Now, you guys, sometimes you guys will be like, these stories sound fake.
This sounds so like wild. And I’m not. Of course, like someone sent this to me. I’m like, what? They’re gonna hand the phone to a bride and say like, you’re horrible. You didn’t invite us. Like, oh my gosh. At that point, I was completely drained. After the reception, we changed and went out to the bar near Fenway.
It was supposed to be the night, just just friends. But my sister insisted on coming. My mom complained until I gave in once there, my sister refused to socialize because she didn’t know anyone, so I ended up sitting with her in a corner all night. Ugh, this makes me so sad for her watching. My husband and our friends actually enjoy themselves.
Eventually I had enough. We went back to the hotel and my husband completely exhausted and drunk, fell asleep almost instantly. The next day, we were supposed to leave for our honeymoon when we found out. The war in Afghanistan had just begun and our international flights were canceled. See, I in 2001, I was in sixth grade, so I don’t remember.
I mean, I remember like finding out about the planes hitting the towers and how terrible and tragic. I remember being terrified. I was in sixth grade, we saw it on tv. Right. So she doesn’t say what month this happens. and I don’t remember, the timeline for this, but I didn’t realize that like I mean, I guess I remember domestic flights getting canceled around nine 11, but wow.
International flights, that takes you back. Okay. At that point I just said, forget it. I rented a car and we drove out west to Utah and Colorado for two weeks. Instead, I turned my phone off the entire time. That was smart. Honestly, I think I enjoyed being away from our families for more, more than the actual honeymoon.
Well, at least you kind of realized at the end of the day like what meant most to you, and at least you guys had that great honeymoon together. But that does suck when there’s so many different angles and people trying to pull away from your day. Weird, weird comments from people. I really hope you’re not friends with that one guy anymore, or the husband’s not.
I could never be around that person again. and the father-in-law, I’m sorry, I’m sorry. I don’t know how you’ll deal with that and what did you end up doing with your last name, I’m guessing, hoping you still hyphenated and don’t let him, convince you otherwise. but it’s really wild.
You know, people comment to comment sometimes, like, well, you’re only getting one person’s perspective. How do you know it’s a hundred percent true? And the honest, I mean, honest to God fact is I, I don’t know. I can never know. People send me stories all the time. We have like 600 plus right now that we are, we sift through every single week.
and you know, we don’t know. Plus, like when something happens to you, you’re gonna view it differently. Even if you’re in the same room as someone, you’re gonna view things differently, tones of voice, how people are standing, like your memory is just gonna hold differently. And so when we’re only getting it from one perspective, of course some things are gonna be like, you know, a little more dramatized or you’re gonna add in extra characters that maybe someone else didn’t notice.
Um. At the end of the day, we’re all entertained, right? Um, and I think we can only take them as, you know, entertainment or lessons for future events or parties or weddings we’re at. Um, don’t be, these people don’t act that way. Just support people. you know, you don’t have to spend hundreds and hundreds on a new dress, but make sure it’s not like stain don’t, like wasn’t something you slept in.
Uh, it’s wild. It’s wild that some of these things have to be said out loud, but, you know, teach their own, I guess. All right. Let’s get into some confessions today. We’ve got a lot going on today, so I should probably get off and get some skits filmed or something. Actually, I have to pack, I, this wallpaper has to go away.
Goodbye wallpaper and they don’t make it anymore. So I can’t, I don’t know. We’ll see what we do at the new place. Alright. I was kicked out of the group family photo as the bride because family only, you know what? I’ve heard of this happening a lot and this is again, one of those things with your relationship and mutual respect because my own wedding, my husband took a picture with his family.
We obviously took one with all of us, but he took one with his immediate family. And I’m not offended by that at all. ‘ cause I feel like that’s important. that’s totally fine. But it was something deliberately where I was like, pushed out of it and were like, oh, we need one without her. But they did those photos separately when I was like, not even out yet.
but again, I would never be offended though if like they were like, oh, we want a picture with just our kids. Yeah, those are your kids and you should have a different relationship with them than me. Um, right after having my son at the next wedding, the mother son dance had me bawling. I couldthose kind of moments hit way differently.
Even just seeing my husband dance with my daughter now I’m like sobbing. I’m like, oh my gosh, I can’t, especially this week. Uh uh. Yeah, those moments just hit differently. I think once you have kids, seeing my friends get married, happy for them. But wish I got married too. Oh, I mean, if that’s something you want, hopefully it happens for you.
I know people don’t always want that kind of like advice, you know. Hopefully your time will come. Um, you know, nothing’s a guarantee, but I think like if you are out there looking for it, your time will come. And, I hear that a lot from, I’ve seen that a lot from people too. It’s hard when it seems like all your friends are married and you’re the only one not married.
I was the last of my friends to get married and I was just excited to support them at that time. And I knew, you know, my time would come eventually.
so for these confessions, I totally forgot to say this, it’s a moment you cried privately at your or someone else’s wedding. I was postpartum and cried at the mother Sundance because I visualized my future. Okay. There’s another one. When I signed the last time with my birth name. Oh wow. I still feel weird.
I’ve been married four years and I still feel weird signing my new last name. I still call it my new last name. I remember saying it to someone and she was like, oh, did you just get married? And I’m like, no, it’s been years and I still like, it’s so weird to me. Like I forget all the time a friend’s wedding with all the people from our squad, except one guy, my fiance.
Okay. Um, my friend looked, my first look with my dad told me it was too late to change anything now, and I do. Your dad said it was too late to change anything now. Oh. Like in a good way. Like, okay, we’re here. Like, just enjoy the day on the cake cutting. When my husband smashed cake all over my face, I cried during cleanup.
Immediate divorce. Immediate divorce. No, it’s not cool to smash cake on your. Partner space. It’s just not, I don’t care. It’s just not. All right guys. That’s all I have for this week. Thanks for hanging out with me. Thanks for letting me be vulnerable. I can’t believe I cried on this episode. hopefully that doesn’t happen again.
Hopefully you guys wanna still visit me next week. but yeah, let’s going on. Hopefully I don’t drive myself crazy. And thanks for being here. Bye now.
The Shawnaverse, Dealing with Grief, and and In-Law Chaos with Shawna Lander
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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments
- The Stepmom Meltdown – What starts as wedding planning quickly turns tense when a stepmom’s reaction sets the tone for everything that follows.
- The Dress Disaster – A forgotten wedding dress adds chaos to an already emotionally charged situation.
- Control Disguised as Care – In-laws use guilt, money, and pressure to try to control the couple’s decisions.
- Crossing the Line – In-Law refuses breastfeeding and fed the baby against the mother’s wishes becomes a major breaking point.
- False Accusations – Lies about cheating and relapse show just how far the manipulation goes.
- The Breaking Point – A shocking escalation pushes the situation from toxic to truly alarming.
- Choosing Your Partner – The husband finally recognizes the pattern and takes a stand.
- A Full Circle Ending – The couple rebuilds their life on their terms, with stronger boundaries in place.
- Red Light, Green Light Reality Check – From “just ignore them” to overstepping in-laws, Christa and Shawna call out what’s acceptable, and what’s an immediate ‘no’.
- Real Life Into Characters – Shawna shares how creating characters became a way to tell honest stories about motherhood while still keeping parts of her life private.
Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode
- “Dynamics just get magnified with children.” – Shawna Lander
- “It’s in the sharing of our stories that we learn” – Shawna Lander
- “If he’s not standing up for you, he’s not putting you first.” – Shawna Lander
- “You can understand where it’s coming from, but that doesn’t make it okay”– Shawna Lander
- “I want to make things that help people feel seen and validated” – Shawna Lander
- “The journey is what makes the process even better.” – Christa Innis
- “ If you really want to move forward in your marriage, you have to make a choice.” – Christa Innis
- “So many things just come down to mutual respect.” – Christa Innis
- “ The beauty with entertainment and creation is being able to connect with people” – Christa Innis
- “Lesson of the day: Just invite the people you wanted.” – Christa Innis
*This conversation is for entertainment and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Please seek a licensed professional for your specific situation.
About Shawna Lander
Shawna Lander is a creator and storyteller known for bringing relatable, and often chaotic, family dynamics to life through her viral name, Shawna the Mom. By playing multiple characters herself, she explores the realities of motherhood, relationships, and family reality in a way that feels both entertaining and uncomfortably real.
Shawna shares how becoming a mom shifted her creative path, why she started telling the stories she felt were missing online, and how her work is rooted in helping people feel seen, validated, and understood through storytelling.
Her content says the quiet parts out loud, using characters and humor, but always rooted in something real.
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Christa Innis: Hi, Shawna.
Shawna Lander: Hi Christa.
Christa Innis: Hi. How’s it
Shawna Lander: going?
Christa Innis: Good. I’m so happy to talk to you. I, I was just saying for recording, I feel like you are the number one person that I feel like people request to come on the podcast. People just love you.
Shawna Lander: That’s Oh, that’s so sweet. I can’t believe that people, I don’t know, wanna hear my opinion on this kinda stuff.
Fun.
Christa Innis: No. Yeah. I mean, I just, I feel like you’ve just started such a, um. An amazing art on social media, and of course we’ll get into, you know, everything that you do. But starting off, can you just tell everybody a little bit about you and we’ll kind of just go from there. I mean, I know it’s probably a funny question ’cause you’re like, where do I start?
Shawna Lander: I know, right? Yeah. Um, and this, it’s so funny because I am on social media, but I’m not really on social media. I put characters on social media and so Yeah, I understand the question. Um, okay, so I’m a mom of two and an actress and a writer, and I never know what else you wanna know about me. I’m researching genealogy right now for my family’s lineage.
Christa Innis: Oh, I love that. No, I,
Shawna Lander: oh my gosh. I know I’ve gotten so into it.
Christa Innis: I feel like it’s, it’s interesting because for one of my skits, I just like tried drawing a family tree and I’m like, I don’t, I’m totally butchering this. I don’t know how genealogy and all that is supposed to work. Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. It’s the craziest thing I’ve found, uh, ancestors going back, like, um, I think it’s three great, great greats now, uh, but like on both sides of my family and I’m like, oh, my family’s been all over the country, all over the US and, um, originally from like, not the US at all.
And so I’m like, oh my God, we’re immigrants.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Very fun.
Christa Innis: I love that. It’s so interesting to like learn about your heritage and like where your family lived and I love that stuff.
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Um, but it’s interesting you say like, people know me, but not really me because of all the characters you play. And what do you think, like starting off, like what do you think is like kinda led you that direction?
Like when you, I know you’re sitting, you’re an actress, you’ve kind of always. Been in the area of content creation. So for you, I think that’s really interesting because I feel that too sometimes. Like I kind of like, and I don’t wanna put words in your mouth, but sometimes I’m able to like hide behind characters in a way.
Shawna Lander: Oh, totally.
Christa Innis: I don’t like sharing personal things on social media. So is that kind of where you are with it or how does that kind of tie in you think?
Shawna Lander: I mean, it already, it always started for me as um, a creative outlet because I’m an actor and so I wanted to act. I had a baby so I couldn’t go to set. Um, and then also I had a baby and I looked down at this beautiful, perfect little creature and I was like, well, this is nothing like I ever expected it to be.
Uh, why aren’t we telling the real story of how this goes? And, uh, so world’s combined. And I was like, I can actually tell these kinds of stories. And so that’s how I got started doing skits on social media. It kind of ticked a lot of boxes for me. I got to act, I got to actually talk about what this is really like.
Um, becoming a mom and, well, I guess those are the only two boxes, but checked to both.
Christa Innis: Yeah. But I feel like the relationship dynamic too, in all your skits is so interesting and I think people learn so much better and like understand or relate through storytelling so much better than just like you coming on the screen and being like, Hey, this is motherhood.
It’s more like you’re able to see like, oh, this, I went through this thing and you so, um, beautifully down on paper for me.
Shawna Lander: Hmm. Yeah. Um, I think that’s true. I think that if you listen to like marginalized folks, they always say, you know, representation matters. And I think that the story of motherhood, um, and really relationships kind of from.
The point of view of a woman who’s going through this transition. It’s not really something that’s been explored a whole lot, or at least not something that I’ve really seen. And so that’s really, uh, has been my impetus.
Christa Innis: Yeah, I love that. So I know I’m kind of,
Shawna Lander: you answer your previous question and yes, I absolutely, uh, get to hide, but that’s kind of the nature of acting.
I mean, I got into it because of acting, not necessarily because I wanted to be on social media, but
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: You know?
Christa Innis: Yeah. But I think that’s the beauty of social media too, is that you can create your own verse, your own universe, your own Oh my god, universe, and Yeah.
Shawna Lander: It’s phenomenal. Yeah, exactly.
Christa Innis: And especially when you talk about with being a mom like that, what, what a beauty to be able to like do it in your own flexibility, your own space.
Yeah. Create these own characters. And you are, you’re the producer, the actor, the writer. Mm-hmm. So for anyone that doesn’t know because I kind of jumping the gun, ’cause I’m, I’m like geeking out. I’m so excited. But for anyone that hasn’t fallen down the Shawna verse how, like rabbit hole, how can you explain it to them?
Like how did it kind of get started and what’s this world that you’ve created online?
Shawna Lander: Oh man. Well, I, it started out as standalone skits about becoming a mother, about mom life. Um, and it. Included a couple of characters here and there, recurring people, like a husband character. Uh, eventually there was a mother-in-law character.
And then from the reaction to these characters, people started asking for more types of characters. So I ended up with a sister-in-law character who was kind of terrible. Um, that was by request. And then when I had like a sort of a, a terrible matriarch and a terrible sister-in-law, I then needed a wonderful matriarch.
And so that’s how the, uh, the, the main mom, the Shawna character’s mother was born. Um, and then once I had kind of several characters that would recur, uh, it got, it became really interesting me to me to think about what would these characters do in like a long form storyline and particularly the sister-in-law character who was always really horrible to Shawna, the mom character.
Um. What would happen to that terrible sister-in-law character if she got pregnant and endured the transformation required to become a mother. And so that’s how the story, that’s how the storyline was born.
Motherhood, Creativity, and Real Stories
Christa Innis: I love that. I love how you have kind of the antagonist and protagonist kind of showing different relationships of like how they work through different stages.
Um, and especially like tying in the motherhood aspect of like being a new mom versus maybe like a mom from like the previous generation, how they parent. Yeah. So what do you think like your biggest challenges have been with like demonstrating something from like, thought to onscreen?
Shawna Lander: Uh, fantastic question.
Um, I don’t know how to answer that.
Christa Innis: That’s okay. Kind of just like, can you, I mean, I. Can I say it like, I saw your episode about the miscarriage and I was just so blown away with how you represented that so beautifully. I mean, I was just like, I was like, what an amazing like world we’re living in where someone can put this art on screen and just make us feel collectively together.
So I wanna applaud you for that, but I mean, I had to be like very challenging to kind of think of how are people reacting to this? What’s an emotion people might have? Um, so that was one that, like, when I was writing this question, I was like, that’s something that like came to mind for me.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. Uh, I wanted to represent grief with that storyline.
Um, it’s just about the worst thing that could happen to anyone is to, um, have the possibility of a baby or want a baby, you know, have a child, and then to lose your child. Worst thing that anyone could go through. Uh, I went through breast cancer and, um, so going through treatment and stuff, you know, I faced mortality.
There’s a lot of grief involved in that.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Shawna Lander: Um, and so, you know, I’ve had grief in my own life. I’ve touched grief, I’ve been touched by grief. Um, and when you’re going through something that it that huge, it, um, it like changes you fundamentally, I feel like I’m changed on a cellular level because of some things that I’ve gone through.
And I think it’s no different losing a child like that. Um, and at the same time, it’s something that’s not talked about a whole lot and, um, uh, something that is really challenging in the US right now. Um, and yeah. And so I just, I wanted to represent. All the women that have, have been through it. And this, the entirety of everything that I’ve done on social media has always been, um, because when I had my baby, I felt like I haven’t seen anything that is representing how I’m feeling, what I’m going through right now.
Mm-hmm. Um, and so I want to make things that help people feel seen and feel validated.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cancer and Starting Over
Shawna Lander: And so I talk about family dynamics, I talk about, um, you know, maybe the just stuff I haven’t seen talked about enough.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I feel like it’s like the beauty with like entertainment and creation is being able to connect with people or see things that maybe you, um, had, had never seen before, but you experienced it for yourself and you’re like, how do I deal with these feelings?
Um,
Shawna Lander: yeah.
Christa Innis: So you talk about being diagnosed with breast cancer, and I think I read it was like 2021. And so you started making content before.
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: And then content after. So how do you think you as, I mean, I’m sure this is a very loaded question, so feel free to answer how you want, but how do you think that affected you before versus after in motherhood and your storytelling?
Um, ’cause I know you also shared about your journey with breast cancer on social media as well.
Shawna Lander: Yeah, it was, um, uh, really kind of a, a beautiful thing to like experience witness firsthand, I guess experience. But, um, I, I, I, it’s sort of strange. I’m sort of divorced in my mind from that time period in my life.
And so it does sort of thing seem like it’s something that I witnessed rather than something I went through, which I probably need to unpack, but one step at a time. Um, so I started with content making, making skits about being a mom. Uh, and I had just had my second, I had been doing content for a while, but nothing gained any traction until I got on TikTok.
Okay. Um, and when I got on TikTok, I saw. Other people making skits, talking to themselves. Mm-hmm. Everything I had done up to that point, I put my husband, my real life husband in the skits and it took forever. And, uh, it’s way harder to coordinate two people’s schedules. Um, especially ’cause he was the, the breadwinner.
And so he was at work, I was at home, I had tons of free time, uh, to think up all these stories and, you know, write them down. And he didn’t have that time. Uh, so I got on TikTok and I was like, what? I could just do it all myself. Okay. And so that’s how that began. And I just started making a little skit a day.
Um, just this personal challenge. Can I do one every single day? Just these one-off little stories. And I found that I could. Um, and they got, they were received well, people liked them. And then one day I couldn’t put a, a skid up because I had to go get a mammogram ’cause I had felt something. Mm. So I came online and I was like, ah, sorry.
No skit today. I have to go get a mammogram. And so then naturally people were like, update us. And uh, so then the diagnosis came, uh, not too, not too long after. And I was like, oh, well, okay, so it is, it is cancer. Uh, that sucks. And, um, everyone was incredibly supportive. They had liked what I had done skit wise, and they felt seen and supported by that work.
And so people came out in droves to be like, we support you. And it was like the most touching thing, um, that could have ever happened at that, that point in time. Uh, because my personal life people, family and friends around me didn’t handle it quite as well and were not quite as supportive. And, uh, so it was like I had this.
This, I don’t know, worldwide community of people like lifting me up. And it was instrumental, like it really got me through it. Um, and then fun fact about going through cancer treatment, um, coming out of the other, the other end of it, you have all this, this drive and will to live when you’re going through treatment and then you get out of treatment and you’re like, yes.
And then nothing happens and everything just sort of is dead air. And so you, you get this, this feeling of like, oh my God, what now? And what did I fight so hard for? Because it’s just this place of sta stagnancy. So I had a little identity crisis.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Shawna Lander: I’m, it was actually a very big one, but I threw myself back into posting, so I reposted all my old skits and that gave me time because you’re also really, really tired and like really recovering after going through five months of chemo, um, and surgery.
And so that gave me, reposting. All my old skids gave me time to sort of like, get my brain around how do I write these stories again and how do I make these again? And then, uh, it was very shortly after that that I started the storyline.
Christa Innis: Wow.
Shawna Lander: That was a long answer.
Christa Innis: No, that was so beautifully said though, because I feel like people want to hear the journey and I feel like the journey is what makes.
The process even better, right? It’s like, I feel like so many times focus on the finish line, but the journey is like, what makes it matter? If that makes sense.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It’s been quite a journey. Um, I think I probably my next move is to, like I said a minute ago, to unpack all of that. So I probably will start unpacking it online.
Yeah. Everything else is been online, so it might as well,
Christa Innis: right? Yeah, because I feel like you are probably just like, let’s get to this next thing. And you’re probably just, it’s almost like that. Uh, what do they say? Like, uh, when you’re, you’re chasing, you’re, if you’re chasing the next thing, you kind of like, don’t necessarily process what happened here, like the past.
Um, ’cause I mean, I noticed Yeah. Which I think for,
Shawna Lander: what were you gonna say?
Christa Innis: No, you, I’m sorry. You go ahead.
Shawna Lander: Which I think for me is necessary. Uh, or at least in that moment, like I really couldn’t process it. I had to. I had, I needed a focus, um, to be able to sort of let the emotionality of all of it kind of be, um, I had to, I had, and I needed a focus.
So this has been incredibly helpful for me personally.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: And I wrote a book.
Christa Innis: Yes. I was gonna ask you about that. Like what’s, what’s next for you? What are you working on? I know you are writing a book and this is more of your personal story. Yeah. This is separate from Shawna verse, this is the real Shawna story.
Correct?
Shawna Lander: Yes. Yeah. Um, that’s another thing. When I started skits, people were like, this lady’s miserable. She does, is complain. Um, but I never was talking about my personal life. I was like, this, these are just the kinds of things moms go through. And so this is, um, the story of what it was like for me to.
Decide I want a baby, then get pregnant, then go through pregnancy, then have a, this is the story of me becoming a mom and therefore finding my artistic voice and starting on social media.
Christa Innis: I love that. So how did you decide, like as you’re like doing the writing process, how did you decide what things you wanted to include?
What things you wanted to exclude?
Shawna Lander: Hmm. Um, I think just when I reflected back on the time period, it was just the big things that happened, and so I just kind of wrote them in chronological order. Um, and I, when, you know, when you have a baby, you, it’s sort of, um, time isn’t really linear. And so once the baby comes in, the storyline, it kind of goes back and forth, back and forth, back and forth because ugh, that’s what it’s like.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Memories are weird. I was just, my daughter turned three this week and literally like the night before her birthday, my husband and I were just like, after she went to bed, my husband and I were just like. A mess. Like I’m just like, oh
Shawna Lander: yeah,
Christa Innis: oh my gosh. Like, and it kind of like kinda what we’re just talking about.
It was like when you’re kind of moving, like to get through this day, get through this lesson, this, you know, whatever, motherhood, all of a sudden you’re like, where’d the last year ago? What did,
Shawna Lander: yeah.
Christa Innis: And it’s wild because we’re so, we’re so, like as parents, I feel like getting through this task or this task, okay, nap time.
Okay, bedtime, you know, all these things. And you’re like, wait, did I soak it in enough? Was I, you know, it’s just like all those like questions of motherhood,
Shawna Lander: torture yourself and then it’s the end of the night you put the baby down and then you’re like looking through the photos from the day.
Christa Innis: Yes. So I feel like one of the most wild things of like, and I heard it obviously, like when I was pregnant or before I had my daughter.
Yeah. People would talk about how like, oh yeah, you get them down to bed and then you miss them. And I was like, what? Literally I’d be staring at her monitor. I’m like, oh, she’s so cute. Oh, is
Shawna Lander: she?
Christa Innis: Yeah. And then I’m like,
Shawna Lander: we
Christa Innis: just
Shawna Lander: please don’t wake up.
Christa Innis: I know. It’s like you focus so long on getting them to bed and then they go to bed and you’re like, oh, I miss them.
Oh, look how cute. She’s when she sleeps. And then I’m like, it’s an hour. And I’m like, okay, I should probably go to bed myself. But, um, I love that. So when, when do you plan on releasing your book or what’s like kind of that process looking like for you?
Shawna Lander: Yeah, so I, uh, don’t know anything about having, writing a book and being out there.
So, um, it releases the release date’s October 20th and there’s a marketing team and, uh, we’re gonna like market it and maybe I’m gonna do a tour. I don’t really know.
Christa Innis: Okay.
Shawna Lander: Don’t ask me these kinds of questions.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: I don’t
Christa Innis: dunno. You’re like, I dunno. Yeah, you’re in the process right now. No, I love that. I think that’s amazing.
So with outside of writing the book, working on this series, which I’m sure that takes up most of your time, what’s kinda your process for the series? Like, do you always know what’s gonna happen? Do you have it all like written out? Are you kind of like, Ooh, this would be good? I’m gonna throw this in there.
Shawna Lander: Yeah, no, it’s both. I outline it so it’s outlined through the year, um, wow. Year and I did this in past year. Yeah. Yeah. It’s, uh, you know, this is like, these are the big beats of what’s gonna happen in the story. Yeah. So Shawna losing the baby last year, that was planned in January. Um, and then so, so there this year we’ve got the things that are planned, but there’s always room for.
Uh, something that comes to me and it’s the most fun in the writing process when I’m sitting there writing the scene when something surprises me when a character says something and I’m like, shut up. So I get to live it in the writing process. Um, yeah, and it it, so the It’s both the answer’s both. Yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I love that. And you, you’re so like, I feel like you’re so organized with your, your right. Like you, I dunno if this is the right word, but com I feel like you compartmentalize everything a little bit better because I’m like, I do the skit stuff, but I’m so all over the place and I’m in the first, I’m like, let’s see what happens today.
I like do some like, but I feel like you do a great job of like writing it out and you’re like, okay, today’s like a filming day and I’m filming this character.
Shawna Lander: Oh, yeah.
Christa Innis: And your outfit changes. It’s so well done. So for anyone that hasn’t watched, like you get in the Shawna verse, I mean, I’m just always so mess rise.
I’m like, how am I watching? One person on screen, but you do each person so well individually. It’s, it’s amazing.
Shawna Lander: Thank you. You’re, um, you’re making me blush I love your stuff too. So, uh, where do you get inspiration? Where do you get your storylines?
Christa Innis: It’s wild. I mean, so I went to school for writing and so I’ve always like created story.
Oh. And yeah, so like, but I kind of lost it in the mix because when I graduated from college, I went into marketing and social media right away. And so I kind of stopped creating for myself and I was working with other brands. I would create social media and it was my maternity leave where ah, I literally that magical time,
Shawna Lander: I’m telling you like, have a baby, you become your most creative self.
It’s insane.
Christa Innis: It’s wild. I know. I remember talking to a mom friend when I was pregnant and she owns a business, um, like a design business and. I was like, how do you get stuff done? She’s like, I’m telling you, something happens. She’s like,
Shawna Lander: yeah,
Christa Innis: my son naps. And I’m just like, I only have an hour. Let me see what I can get done.
And
Shawna Lander: yeah.
Christa Innis: Kind of thing happened, but, and I think I was so used to like working a lot, not necessarily a workaholic, but before my daughter was born, I was like the person, I would stay late in the office, I’d be working at night on my phone, and so. During maternity leave. I was like, when she’s like napping on me, I was like, what am I gonna do?
And then like started.
Shawna Lander: Yeah, because your brain is going, you can’t move but your brain. Yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah. And so like, it kind of started with like, I was in a ton of weddings in my like twenties and early thirties that I was like, I would always hear wedding drama stories and like I would see things and I would see how like crazy some family members could be.
And so I was like, so I kind of started with like a crazy like little skit with like just two people. Never did like a long storyline, but then people just wanted more. And so
Shawna Lander: people want it, people want the drama.
Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. And so like that kind of like you kind of said like throwing yourself into this new verse and like creating these characters that kind of brought back the spark of like, yes, I love creating, I love writing.
So yeah. Gotta thank the TikTok.
Shawna Lander: Cool.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Thank you. Social media, you know, that we’re able to, to create, we have a place to put it.
Christa Innis: I know I always think about when I see people on here creating these stories or you know, whether no matter what kind of content they create, it’s like so much opportunity out there that I feel like was not there before.
Because it’s like if you don’t have a direct contact with like Hollywood or this like that never would’ve happened.
Shawna Lander: Yeah, yeah. I agree.
Christa Innis: Yeah, so it’s amazing.
Shawna Lander: And that really was like the traditional route. When I got started, I really thought, oh, I’ll put some skits on the internet. Maybe someone will see them and they’ll be like, you know, by the time I’m ready to get back to set when the kid’s a toddler or something, um, somebody I, you know, somebody will see my stuff and they’ll be like, you, obviously you.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Shawna Lander: I really thought that’s the way it would go. I did not think the audience would come to me.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Because now you have full creative control and you can make Yeah. It as unhinged or as serious. Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. It’s,
Christa Innis: yeah.
Shawna Lander: No, no barriers.
Christa Innis: People are always like, because I have a wild character Kate in my storylines, and they’re like, oh, I would love to see Kate and Barb go at it.
’cause like is like the wild Did
Shawna Lander: do that, that would be so fun. We could figure out a way to do that.
Christa Innis: That’d be so fun. I know. ’cause I always see like, I see like Barb and I’m like, oh yeah, we’ve got that same kind like idea of like that, that mother-in-law character. But um, yeah, it’s funny. What’s the most like
Shawna Lander: in the world?
I feel, I feel for her, you know, she’s having a hard time, but she does indeed exist in the world and make things hard for others.
Christa Innis: Yeah, I know. And like you think all these like stories, like they, you’re like, especially like when I like create stuff, I’m like, oh, this is like so wild. No one would actually do this.
Yeah. And then I, people comment and they’re like, my mother-in-law did this or my cousin did this, my uncle, you know, it happened. Yeah. It’s wild.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. A hundred percent happened.
Christa Innis: People are not What’s the most, um, unhinged thing you think Barb has done before in your story?
Shawna Lander: Oh lord. Um, hold on, let me think back.
Um, I mean, it’s pretty unhinged of her to try and beat up Deedee. Mm-hmm. She tried to beat up Shawna’s mom.
Christa Innis: I remember
Shawna Lander: that. Um, that, that was pretty unhinged. It. She ruined Jen’s proposal. That was terrible on Christmas. Oh, so she ruined Christmas and the proposal. That was awful. Um, yeah, those are, those are those two things.
Christa Innis: Those are big
Shawna Lander: ones. Those pretty good. She showed up at the elementary school. That was pretty bad too. She’s Oh,
Christa Innis: that one.
Shawna Lander: Cool. What about Katie,
Christa Innis: Kate? She, um, oh gosh. Is it
Shawna Lander: Kate?
Christa Innis: Kate.
Shawna Lander: Kate. Okay.
Christa Innis: So she, the series started off as, um, boyfriend’s mom. She tries to show up at proposal, so, oh, that way ended up turning into your,
Shawna Lander: that’s such a barb.
What a barb thing to do. What
Christa Innis: a Kate. So, yeah, so she, when he said, Hey, I want a surprise, I wanna surprise Sloan, my girlfriend, um, and Santa Monica to propose. She goes, let’s make it a family vacation. And she like, wants to show up. Um, and she ends up, um, trying to plan a whole family vacation. So he goes a week early so she can’t show up.
Oh. But then there’s like many things where she tries showing up at the bachelorette party, but she’s just constantly rude to slo his girlfriend or now fiance. So yeah, it’s like any kind of wild thing you can think of, she’s,
Shawna Lander: yeah. See family dynamics fascinate me to no end because she’s only wigging out like this.
No. In her family she doesn’t. Uh, and she’s trying to, she’s trying to like insert herself so that she’s not left out. She’s not forgotten. You know what I mean? Like, I get, I get what’s going on in that brain, but that’s crazy unhinged behavior.
Christa Innis: Yes. It’s that like controlling of like, um, you don’t want your son, you don’t wanna be left behind like they don’t want.
Exactly. Son. Yeah. So you can see where it comes from, but then yeah, I can
Shawna Lander: totally know where it comes from.
Christa Innis: Cody. Yeah. I can see Cody where they can’t actually see like, I’m damaging this relationship. I’m not actually Exactly. Making him want to be closer to me. I’m pushing him. Yeah. Making,
Shawna Lander: yeah. It’s, they forget that, um, you know, this is, this isn’t an autonomous person, you know, they, they only identify with them as like, um, how it pertains to them.
Like, this is, this is my son, not, this is. A person, and I may be overstepping a line here,
Christa Innis: right? It’s the, the en mesh enmeshment, the, yeah. A limb of theirs almost.
Shawna Lander: Yes.
The Red Flags: Red Light and Green Light
Christa Innis: Yes. Oh my gosh. I love it. Yeah. Barb, Barb and Kate, keeping us on our toes. Awesome. Okay, so let’s get, before we get into this week story submission, I like to do a little like red light, green light thing, um, where I’ll read like a sentence and you just tell me if it’s a red light or green light.
I think most will be pretty, it’s kind of on like,
Shawna Lander: like good to go or like, don’t do that.
Christa Innis: Yes.
Shawna Lander: So red light stop, green light. Okay. Got it.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Let’s do it
Christa Innis: kind of related to like weddings or family dynamics. Okay. In-laws showing up unannounced at to your house.
Shawna Lander: Red light
Christa Innis: parents commenting on how to raise your kids
Shawna Lander: red light.
Christa Innis: Someone saying, I
Shawna Lander: guess it depends on your relationship, but Go Red light.
Christa Innis: I know. I feel like so many things depend on like mutual respect. Yeah. Like if you have a good relationship and they’re like helpful. I think it’s different. Um, someone’s saying, I’m just being honest before criticizing you,
Shawna Lander: red light
Christa Innis: is my all be red lights.
Um, a partner saying just ignore them when there’s family drama.
Shawna Lander: Red light,
Christa Innis: a partner.
Shawna Lander: Oh, see, I’m, I’m like, hmm, I’m getting mad. Wanting to explain. Listen.
Christa Innis: Because the number of stories I get too, where they’re like, the fiances no where to be seen in this story. And it’s like the woman or whoever the main person is having to deal with the mother-in-law.
And there’s I
Shawna Lander: love that.
Christa Innis: Yeah. And there’s no one helping them. It’s just like, oh, just ignore her. This is her. Listen.
Shawna Lander: That is his family. Oh my God. If he’s not standing up for you, walk away. That’s terrible.
Christa Innis: Then you’re having to deal with that the rest of your marriage. If he
Shawna Lander: doesn’t, he’ll never stand up for you.
If it’s in early stages and he’s not standing up for you with his family, he is not putting you first, my darling. And then that’s just gonna get worse. Especially with children.
Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Dynamics just get magnified with children. Go on.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Go on.
Shawna Lander: Yes.
Christa Innis: Um, posting about family drama online?
Shawna Lander: Well, I mean, I do it not my own family.
Christa Innis: Put their.
Shawna Lander: I would say real family drama is a, a red light, fake family drama is a green.
Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. It’s funny ’cause when I first started doing skits, I dunno if you get these comments from people that maybe like haven’t seen your stuff before, but when I first started it, a woman would comment and be like, how dare you air your dirty laundry online?
This is so shameful to your family. And I was like, this is not my trauma.
Shawna Lander: Yes. I get those. I still to this day get those questions and people now going like, what is this? Is this her real life? Like this is why I wrote the book. No, no, this is not my real life. Let me tell you my real life, which I’m now starting to regret.
Anyway, cut that part out. Just kidding by the book. My publisher’s gonna be so mad at me. I’m like, why was I so honest?
Christa Innis: I know. Well, it’s hard. It’s hard ’cause like, you know, people. I don’t know. I feel like especially too, when you’re used to like sharing characters, but people wanna see that side of you too because they like, like I said, they love you and they love your characters.
So like it’s exciting to get a story that they haven’t necessarily gotten the full story of, you know, they’ve gotten maybe like sneak bit. So yeah.
Shawna Lander: That’s fun. It was exciting for me ’cause it’s like a new creative outlet.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: A new way to be creative.
Christa Innis: Do you enjoy, sorry, I’m kind of like going back, but like, do you enjoy, I know you write with Shawna verse, but
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Do you enjoy the writing or the acting more?
Shawna Lander: Oh my gosh, I know. Yeah. Um, so it was always acting, always, always, always my whole entire life. And then, uh, at some point I looked up in my twenties, I was writing. All throughout my twenties, I wrote like short films and I wrote feature length films. Um, I used to, I wrote stories as a kid.
My very first short film ever I made, when I was like 13, I wrote it and made my friend act in it with me. We gave her leukemia. So this is, I’m true to this. I knew to this. Um, but yeah. But I never knew I was a writer. I just, no one else was writing it, so I wrote it. Mm-hmm. And then one day I looked up and I was like, these are kind of good.
Wait a minute. I kind of like writing these stories. So I think it’s both.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I love that it works so well together. Thanks.
Shawna Lander: Oh, hold on. Wait, sorry. Going back. You are a writer. So do you have, do you wanna do a book? Do you wanna like challenge yourself in that way? So,
Christa Innis: yeah. So I did a book about, um, I came out with my first book last year.
About Ferris and Sloan.
Shawna Lander: Oh my God. Oh my God, that’s genius.
Christa Innis: So yeah. What’s
Shawna Lander: called, what do I not know this?
Christa Innis: It’s called, here Comes The Drama. Do
Shawna Lander: you talk?
Christa Innis: That’s
Shawna Lander: amazing.
Christa Innis: Yeah, so it came out last June and I’m currently writing book number two based on season two. So
Shawna Lander: Ban. Fantastic.
Christa Innis: Yeah. So it’s fun.
Shawna Lander: Is it like, um, what genre would you say?
Christa Innis: It’s like a romantic comedy?
Shawna Lander: Yeah,
Christa Innis: yeah. Um, or romantic dramedy is the more like, I guess official.
Shawna Lander: That is so fun. I am going to go pick this up.
Christa Innis: Yay. Oh my gosh. It’s a fun, like, quick read and I kind of say it’s like a sitcom mixed with a soap opera.
Shawna Lander: Oh
Christa Innis: my
Shawna Lander: God.
Christa Innis: Because that’s why I grew up watching. Yeah.
Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Um,
Christa Innis: did
Shawna Lander: you do an audio book for it?
Christa Innis: I did, but I, I had a voice actor do it because
Shawna Lander: I Oh, you didn’t wanna do it yourself?
Christa Innis: Yeah. Um, I was kind of. I dunno if I should. Well, yeah, it’s whatever. I was kind of talked out of it. I didn’t really want, but I didn’t
Shawna Lander: Oh, terrible.
Christa Innis: Not in a bad way.
Shawna Lander: Okay.
Christa Innis: Like what I was like, what’s the protocol for this?
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: And I was also, I’m also very insecure with my like, reading voice. I don’t know. Oh my God. Criticize me.
Shawna Lander: You are so cute, darling. Girl. My, my love. No, no, no, no, no. We wanna hear it in your do it over, do it in your voice. The people will love it. This is what the people want.
Christa Innis: Yeah. We’re, we’re working on, well this still, maybe I’ll take, cut this part out, but we’re working on, I’m writing BART two and we wanna, we wanna do, um, book one and two published traditionally now because I did the first one self-published.
So now a literary agent is like,
Shawna Lander: oh my god.
Christa Innis: That’s really because you have the sales to prove it. So like, people
Shawna Lander: want
Christa Innis: this,
Shawna Lander: you know. When behind the scenes everything’s sort of in place because I will totally promo it for you. This is fun. Oh,
Christa Innis: thank you. Yes, I’m excited.
Shawna Lander: And then you should do the audio book and insist you redo the first one and do ’em both.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I think it’s because
Shawna Lander: like, I think, I think,
Christa Innis: I don’t know how to do like character voices. I like, even when I act, I just do like throw ’em in there. So I don’t know. I feel like for like an audio book or not an audio book, an audiobiography, it makes more sense or like a biography, but like, I don’t know.
Yeah, I did the author’s note. So the author’s note is in my voice and then I did like a little thing at the end where I talk about it. Yeah. But um,
Shawna Lander: I’m sure it’s good.
Christa Innis: I’m sure it’s good. Yeah.
Shawna Lander: There’s more talking about
Christa Innis: Yeah, lot of people like to, and, and they let me like listen to multiple people and I gotta pick.
Um, and so I was very involved in the process and so, um, but. Do you see
Shawna Lander: yourself more as the writer than the performer then?
Christa Innis: Yes.
Shawna Lander: Yeah,
Christa Innis: yeah, yeah. That’s where like I, oh,
Shawna Lander: okay.
Christa Innis: Yeah. So, yeah,
Shawna Lander: I take it all.
Christa Innis: I know I kind of worried that wrong, but they were, they were awesome to work with, and they were just like, you can do it.
She’s like, she was like, you just have to like find a studio. And I was like, I think I’d rather hear a voice actor, because I’m not a voice actor, but I’ve heard mixed, like, most people really like the person that did it. And then ours are like, I wish I heard your voice because I’m so used to hearing you in the skit.
But
Shawna Lander: yeah.
Christa Innis: But yeah, no, it was fun because I was able to like, um, kind of go where the skit went, but then I added so much extra dimension and background to the characters.
Shawna Lander: Oh, that’s
Christa Innis: so
Shawna Lander: fun.
Christa Innis: But yeah, and make it like way more unhinged because like, there’s certain things like I, and you probably can relate, but there’s certain things where you’re like, how do I, how do I show this as one person?
Like if this happens or this, or like, you know, so I’m like, okay, I’m gonna, I can do more like. A little more in the writing. I feel like sometimes.
Shawna Lander: Yeah,
Christa Innis: yeah.
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Thanks for asking me that. Like,
Shawna Lander: oh yeah, absolutely.
The Wedding Weekend Mess
Christa Innis: I was like, um, all right, let’s get into this week’s story submission. So these are stories that followers sent.
Um, I’ve not read it yet, so we’re gonna react together.
Shawna Lander: Okay. Exciting.
Christa Innis: There you go. Okay. My husband and I got engaged in November. We had intentionally gotten pregnant, partly because we’d only been dating for a short time and knew our families might not understand our decision to marry so quickly. Oh, okay.
So they’re saying bef,
Shawna Lander: oh, but read it again. So they got engaged.
Christa Innis: They got engaged in November. We intentionally got pregnant, partly because we’d only been dating a short time, and our families might not understand our decision to marry so quickly.
Shawna Lander: Okay. So like
Christa Innis: they, they kinda like backwards. They’re like, let’s get pregnant.
So the family accepts. We’re getting married?
Shawna Lander: Yes. Okay.
Christa Innis: Okay. Uh, we are still together now. 11 years later. Okay. That worked out.
Shawna Lander: Good job.
Christa Innis: Good job. We were very excited. After calling my parents, we called his dad and stepmom to tell them the news. We explained that we were planning to either get married at the courthouse or elope in Vegas that same month because he was in the Marine Corps.
Um, and we were about to be separated. His stepmom, no joke, cried, screamed and threw a full meltdown. She said his brother and sister-in-law had left them out of their wedding and that they would be deeply hurt if we did the same to them. So to keep the peace, we agreed to wait a month and get married in the state where they lived in December, around Christmas.
Oh my gosh. I always feel like whenever. Whenever someone’s like, and we agreed. That’s like in the famous last words, because then you’re like, you’re on their boat now.
Shawna Lander: Okay.
Christa Innis: Oh, okay. When we arrived, things immediately felt tense. His stepmom is extremely loud and woke us up early one morning talking loudly in the house.
When she saw me awake, she said, wow, you’re up. I replied calmly. Yeah, I heard you wake up in my family. That kind of comment is playfully teasing and meant to and meant affectionately. She immediately started screaming at me. I apologized and tried to explain, but she wouldn’t let up, and I ended up crying.
The wedding was the next day. That afternoon we were getting our nails done, so I pushed my feelings down and tried to move on the next day. I got ready quietly with no drama, but I was completely alone. None of my family was there, only his to make night. I don’t know. That’s why I’m like, why? Why? You know, that’s interesting.
To make matters worse, my husband had accidentally left my wedding dress back in California. Okay. He had flown. I know. I’m like, what street are you in? How, how can I get there? He had flown later than me and had a free checked back because he was in the Marines, so he had carefully packed my dress to
Shawna Lander: him.
Oh.
Christa Innis: Oh, no. Unfortunately it didn’t make it. Oh, no. I ended up buying a discounted dress from David’s Bridal which thankfully turned out beautifully. I got ready with his stepmom. See, I’d already be like, she doesn’t like me. I’m not getting ready with,
Shawna Lander: I know. Shout out David Bridal, by the way. That’s the
Christa Innis: clutch.
Yes. Coming in clutch. Really? But when I arrived at the venue, I was alone with only his family present. Again, where’s your family? It’s so sad. What I didn’t know until years later was that on the same day, his dad had told him it wasn’t too late to run and had desperately tried to convince him to leave.
Oh, he told me. He told him that I had tricked him into marriage by getting pregnant and lying about it, essentially forcing him into a shotgun wedding.
Shawna Lander: Oh no.
Christa Innis: It’s terrible. The truth is that getting married was entirely my husband’s idea. We had openly agreed that we wanted to try for a baby. The pregnancy was simply the explanation we used because we knew our families wouldn’t understand otherwise.
My husband told his dad that he wanted to marry me, and we went through with the wedding. Later, after our baby was born, we moved to the same state where his dad and stepmom lived. Why? Why
Shawna Lander: don’t do that? Well,
Christa Innis: the opposite direction.
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. At first they dot
Shawna Lander: the military. It was probably ’cause of the military.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Maybe it just like worked out with the,
Shawna Lander: yeah.
In-Laws Crossing Every Line
Christa Innis: Timing. At first they dotted on my, on the baby, my husband and me. But over time I started noticing that they equated money and gifts with love and expected to control all of us. Oh. Once I started standing up for myself, things changed. For example, when our daughter was four months old, they tried to feed her, feed her chocolate cake.
I told them no. Oh my gosh. Here, just eat this chocolate cake. Okay. They went behind my back and did it anyway.
Shawna Lander: Oh. I would be,
Christa Innis: Ugh. That is feeding a child something when the parents say no at any age, but especially that age where it can be very harmful.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. Oh my gosh.
Christa Innis: Wild.
Shawna Lander: Wild.
Christa Innis: They’re not realizing how dangerous it could be for the baby that young, like they’re not even eating.
They’re starting to eat maybe some solid foods at that point. Right, and like,
Shawna Lander: yeah, rice, rice cereal.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Terrible.
Christa Innis: They also shamed me for breastfeeding because it made them uncomfortable.
Shawna Lander: Yeah, that’s just dumb. You’re just, that’s just stupid. That’s just stupid.
Christa Innis: Like, come
Shawna Lander: on.
Christa Innis: I’m sorry. Why don’t you leave the room then if it makes you sound, oh
Shawna Lander: yeah.
That’s kind of like consider the source, you know, like, duh. You can’t even be offended at by them by that, because that’s just so stupid. That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Literally they assisted, insisted that for the formula was good enough after many more incidents where I refused to just bend to their, to their will, they escalated things.
They tried to convince my husband that I was cheating on him simply because I had male friends Who does that? Also they never think like forward, like what happens like after that? Like if they actually convince the husband. So you want him to be like divorced? Like
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: What is that? Like divorce.
Shawna Lander: It’s not like she goes away.
Like they have to still manage the child together.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I’m like, they don’t think about how that’s gonna actually affect them and their relationship.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. It makes everything much more contentious. What? I can’t, I don’t even, I can’t fathom this
Christa Innis: wild, even though those men had been our mutual friends for years, they also accuse me of relapsing and using drugs again.
I’m about to celebrate 11 years clean next month, 2025. I got sober in 2014 so I could build a life with my husband. Good on you. Yay. These accusations were made in 2018, so she was four years sober already. And they’re, they’re saying she relapsed. Like what a wild thing to say and like so incredibly hurtful.
Shawna Lander: Yeah, so hurtful.
Christa Innis: They even told him they had driven by my workplace and that I wasn’t there. Why is that whole life mission to like, I
Shawna Lander: dunno, it’s so weird. They do not like her.
Christa Innis: No. That’s where you have to make those ties, like cut those ties. Like he has to be like, I’m choosing you and forget them because that’s just after, after one of those things alone, I feel like I’d be like, okay, I can’t.
Shawna Lander: Okay. Uh, go back to the be begin toward the beginning. They were at, they went to their house for the wedding weekend and she woke up early and was being loud.
Christa Innis: Yeah. So the mother-in-law or the stepmom.
Shawna Lander: Stepmom
Christa Innis: was extremely loud. Woke us up early one morning talking loud in the house. She saw me awake. She said, wow, you’re up.
And I replied calmly and smiling. Yep. I heard you wake up kind of just being like, oh yeah, I heard you. And the stepmom was
Shawna Lander: okay. So she was, that was like a sarcastic comment. She
Christa Innis: was like, yeah, I think that was her being like, oh, you’re talking back to me or You’re not respecting me or something.
Shawna Lander: Okay.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Um, so they even told him they driven by my workplace and that I wasn’t there despite the fact that I was absolutely there and my job required fingerprint login. So it was easy to prove
Shawna Lander: she’s got an alibi.
Christa Innis: Yes. Then things became truly disturbing. They tried convincing my husband to abduct our daughter.
Okay, this is wild. What They really don’t like her.
Shawna Lander: After they really don’t like her.
Christa Innis: I really hope after all this
Shawna Lander: you need to move away. This is like getting into Snapped territory. Yes. Kind of scary.
Christa Innis: Like how long do you keep someone like this around, like at the end, if they’re still in contact with them.
I’m, I, I don’t know. That’s,
Shawna Lander: yeah,
Christa Innis: that’s a lot.
Shawna Lander: Do we give advice on this podcast?
Christa Innis: Podcast? Yes, please. I feel like when people write in, they like, they know like there’s gonna be some kind of advice or a lot of times they tell me it’s therapeutic, typing it all out. ’cause they’re like,
Shawna Lander: oh, that’s good
Christa Innis: through my emotion.
Shawna Lander: Um, you’re fighting a service.
Christa Innis: Yes. Yes.
Shawna Lander: That’s phenomenal.
Christa Innis: Well, it could, it’s funny ’cause again, some of the, like the haters online, someone was like, all you do is spread drama, blah, blah blah. And then I was like, internalizing. I was like, am I like toxic? Like drama? And people were like, no. It’s like helpful ’cause I’m able to like, relate to people and like help me find out something that I went through or understand it.
’cause I don’t know.
Shawna Lander: I, I a hundred percent believe that we, it’s in the sharing of our stories, you know, that we learn.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: That we grow. Yeah,
Christa Innis: exactly. And find like a community to like connect with. Yeah. Um, they said they would buy him a car in their name and rent an apartment under their name with cash so we could disappear.
Oh my gosh.
Shawna Lander: Wow. You would have
Christa Innis: to cut someone off like this. God, I hope they cut them out. All of this was simply,
Shawna Lander: are they talking about murder or ki or kidnapping the child?
Christa Innis: Uh, well, I mean at first it seemed like just kidnap, just, just kidnapping. Um, first it seemed like they wanted the husband to take the daughter and they would go, but then when it says so we could disappear.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. That’s the part that I’m like, what do you mean disappear?
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Like, we disappeared because that’s scary.
Christa Innis: That’s a weird sentence there. Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Scary enough
Christa Innis: that they’re
Shawna Lander: trying to
Christa Innis: take the child. His parents seems kind of scary.
Shawna Lander: Oh.
Christa Innis: All of this was simply because I refused to let them control me.
Eventually we fled with our daughter and moved back to California with the help of his mom, who he hadn’t spoken to in 10 years.
Shawna Lander: Whoa. Oh, so he’s in contact with the dad. The dad’s unhinged
Christa Innis: Uhhuh,
Shawna Lander: seemingly. Yeah. And so he got into contact with his mom, Uhhuh, and she’s like, yeah, babe. I know. Come on.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Come along please. I, I will protect you.
Shawna Lander: This is why.
Christa Innis: Yeah. That’s interesting.
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Um, so no mention of like, like her family around this time either, so I’m curious.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. Maybe she doesn’t really have much family.
Christa Innis: Yeah. That’s what I’m kind of wondering.
Shawna Lander: Or maybe the drug use was, has had her sort of isolated at the time.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: That happens?
Christa Innis: Well, it says we told our families.
Shawna Lander: Mm-hmm.
Christa Innis: Yeah. We knew our families, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
Shawna Lander: Interesting.
Christa Innis: Okay. But yeah, they’re just not mentioning
Shawna Lander: story. Maybe that’ll come back around. Okay.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Um, okay, so it says, um, we were offered his childhood home by her, his mom, when his dad and stepmom found out, they called his brother and told him to burn any paperwork that had my husband’s name or security number on it, because we were supposedly planning to steal his identity and ruin his credit.
Shawna Lander: Oh my God. What? This is so much worse than anything I’ve ever written. This is awful.
Christa Innis: These people literal to go outside and touch some grass and stop watching crime tv, like,
Shawna Lander: this is really, really bad. This, this, oh my god.
Christa Innis: Like what
Shawna Lander: I like, I feel like I would walk out of this movie like that. Like that’s implausible.
This is crazier than anything I’ve ever heard.
Christa Innis: No, this is like, I
Shawna Lander: can’t believe people live these lives. I’m so sorry. That’s terrible.
Christa Innis: I don’t know how you would like, I don’t know. I would be so paranoid, honestly, like people like this that are so unhinged, like you would hope they never found your new address in California.
Like, oh
Shawna Lander: my god.
Christa Innis: You know, I
Shawna Lander: hope she wasn’t, I hope we’re not like putting fear into her, but this poor woman who this
Christa Innis: at least, oh my
Shawna Lander: God,
Christa Innis: I think this was y years ago now, because she said they’re married 11. So I don’t know. I don’t know how af how soon after they got married that, that all this happened, but I’m hoping this was like that.
It was
Shawna Lander: four years of sobriety by the time she, they were accusing her of, of, yes. And she said. 11 years sober, 11 years married. So she must have gotten, um,
Christa Innis: she got clean, I think when they got married. Oh, yeah. She got sober in 2014 so they could rebuild a life together.
Shawna Lander: Okay, so it’s been 12 years-ish.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Wow. His brother and sister-in-law called us immediately because they spoke with us daily and knew better. All after that. My husband completely cut his dad and stepmom off. Thank God I get so worried at these because as my sister, like, oh, we’re still in contact or limited. I’m like, someone like that, you have to snip.
Shawna Lander: That’s, that’s crazy. That’s unhinged.
Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. We ultimately decided not to move into that house. Since then, we’ve had two more beautiful children, bought a wonderful home, and both of us are now in school studying to become teachers. We both are maintaining 4.0 GPAs. Woo hoo. Yeah. Oh yeah. It’s worth noting that my husband didn’t speak to his mom for 10 years because of lies his dad told about her.
I was wondering.
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah. That sucks when that happens. It’s like if you have your own issues sure. But don’t bring your kids involved. ’cause like, uh, now he lost 10 years with his mom. That’s so sad.
Shawna Lander: Yeah. That’s really, really sad.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I’m glad they’re like reconnected. Mm-hmm. Um, it absolutely eat that
Shawna Lander: end of that though.
There’s nothing you can do about it. You know, you can’t, like he’s lying like, you know, just as a he said, she said and
Christa Innis: mm-hmm.
Shawna Lander: People who are willing to do that and lie about the other party are so much better at it
Christa Innis: mm-hmm.
Shawna Lander: Than, than the person who’s a victim of it. And so it’s just like a terrible manipulation of the child.
It’s so sad.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my gosh. Um. It absolutely eats at them now that she’s a bigger part of our lives, especially after his dad tried to tell him almost identical lies about me. Recently we had a vow renewal. His mom, my parents, and many of our friends and family attended at the church where I’m part of the leadership team.
So they got their new like
Shawna Lander: That’s good. Yeah. I take it back. I like this movie.
Christa Innis: Yes. It all has a happy ending. I’m, I’m so happy. Yay. His dad no longer has my husband’s phone number and has to go through me if he wants to pass along a message, I personally have forgiven them. Oh, that’s, that’s big. I don’t know.
I could, um, because I don’t like holding onto anger, but my husband hasn’t. Overall though all’s well, it ends well. We are happy, healthy, raising three wonderful children and living a life we love.
Shawna Lander: Yay. Good job. Them.
Christa Innis: I, I feel like they did a great job of tying it up with a bow at the end. ’cause sometimes we get these and it just ends and I’m like, that’s all they want.
And I like, we’ll reach out. Sometimes we be like, can you give us a follow up? Um, wow, that was a rollercoaster.
Shawna Lander: Yeah, that was a lot.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: We’ve been through some drama. I’m glad they came out the other end of it, but Oof.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: We need EMDR therapy after that.
Christa Innis: Seriously, I feel like this is a good reminder that if you really want to move forward in your marriage, if there’s some kind of toxicity like that constantly pulling out, you have to make a choice.
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
Christa Innis: If you wanna stick with your in-laws or you know, whoever that is, the toxic person. Then your marriage probably won’t work. I mean, not to be like, but you know, I just feel like so many times in these stories I see where it’s like the push and pull and or they’ll be fine and then all of a sudden they like do something and you’re like, do I forgive them?
But this is like all, this was unforgivable. Am I?
Shawna Lander: Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Like from the start. That’s incredible. Um, that is an example of a husband who does put you first.
Christa Innis: Yes.
Shawna Lander: Who does stand up to his family? Oh man.
Christa Innis: He put all the pieces together. He is like, wait, dad’s not, wait a minute. He, he said the same thing about Mom.
Shawna Lander: I’ve heard these lies before.
Christa Innis: Wait a minute. Yes. He’s going down that same, that same, uh, files of lies. Okay. Let’s pull this one out.
Shawna Lander: That’s incredible. People just send you stories like this.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. That’s what started the podcast is ’cause when I would post like a skit, people would like message me or DM me or comment and they’d be like, can I send you my whole story?
And I was like, sure. Then I use it for a skit and then I was like, I’ll create a Google form so you guys can send me, you know, a bunch.
Shawna Lander: Oh. And then I
had
Christa Innis: like hundreds upon hundreds of stories and I was like, I guess we’re making a podcast. Let’s share this story. Because I was like, I can’t act ’em all out, so let’s just do it.
Shawna Lander: Oh, that’s incredible.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Shawna Lander: People used to send me mother-in-law stories when I, whenever I would do barber skits before the, the big storyline began.
Christa Innis: Oh wow.
Shawna Lander: What you can do with something like that. It’s amazing.
Christa Innis: Right. And like we were talking about too, it’s like it gives people a safe pa place to share.
Um, ’cause some, a story I read the other day. Was saying like she wanted to like share it, but she was like, I have family and friends on social media and I don’t really, I don’t know how they’ll retaliate or something. I’m like, you can send it to me. I will anonymously share it. I’ll change details. You know?
Um, so that makes it like kind of a safe place to like connect but not i’ll or, or see people’s opinions without you putting yourself out there necessarily. Yeah,
Shawna Lander: absolutely.
Christa Innis: Oh,
Shawna Lander: I’m like, ugh, I feel like I need a drink after that. That was crazy. At least a cup of coffee. It’s like, that was a lot. Oh
Christa Innis: my gosh.
It was a lot. All right. I always like to end these with reading a couple of confessions. People also send me confessions on Instagram. Okay. So here we go. This is, did you, this week we asked did you invite someone you lowkey didn’t want to at the wedding? Okay, sorry. Bless you.
Shawna Lander: Do you need to reread it?
Christa Innis: I mean, sure.
Yeah. Okay. So this week we asked, did you invite someone you lowkey didn’t want to invite to the wedding? No names, just the tea. Okay, here we go. This person said, not even invited. Just invited. He was a groomsman. Oh. And I have so many, so much more drama that won’t even fit here. Um, uh, send it to me.
Shawna Lander: Yeah.
That should have been a dm. We need the whole story there.
Christa Innis: We
Shawna Lander: need
Christa Innis: more. Yeah. These little convers uh, confession spots are so small. My cousin’s ex-boyfriend, they fought then broke up the next day.
Shawna Lander: Oh no.
Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Um, let’s see. And al my alcoholic sister-in-law, she wore a hot pink dress, stopped hubs while he walked down the aisle to hug him.
Shawna Lander: Oh my God.
Christa Innis: No, that’s not,
Shawna Lander: did I?
Christa Innis: I’m like, no, please don’t.
Shawna Lander: No, no.
Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Um, let’s see. This says, oh gosh, this is a two part one. The significant other to a groomsman who was so upset. We didn’t invite her toddler. So then she did coke in the reception hall bathroom and nearly flashed my 93-year-old great aunt.
That is a mouthful. Whoa.
Shawna Lander: Oh my.
Christa Innis: All right. Well
Shawna Lander: I’m mad at you, so I’m going to do coke.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Great. Okay, last one. This is, people really had some good answers here. Um, friends, girlfriend didn’t like any of us have a pick of her and a bridesmaid glaring at each other. Okay.
Shawna Lander: Great.
Christa Innis: Lesson of the day. Just invite people that you wanted to write.
Shawna Lander: Ah, say no, say no to that person. Nevermind. Don’t, don’t, don’t come.
Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. No, thank you. Well, thank you so much for coming on, Shawna. I’m like, I feel so like, grateful that you came on. It was so great talking with you. And I feel like I said this before coming up. I feel like I know you through all seeing your skits and just, you’re just such a great person and, um, I love chatting with you.
Shawna Lander: Thank you. This was so much fun. I’m so glad and I’m so glad that it worked out because this has been like months in the making.
Christa Innis: Yes, I know. I’m so glad. Like I said, people have always, always like, get shot of the mom. Um,
Shawna Lander: I I’m so glad. I’m thrilled. This is so much fun. I’m glad to have been on.
Christa Innis: Awesome. Well thank you.
So can you just remind everyone where they can find all your skits and then anything fun you’re working on? I mean, I know we got the Shawna-verse, but.
Shawna Lander: Yeah, it’s Shawna, the mom. Um, Shawna is spelled SHA with WUNA, um, Shawna, the mom, and it’s on all the platforms. So TikTok, Instagram, I’m on YouTube, I’m on Facebook.
And what am I working on? Uh, I have a book coming out October 20th. And
Christa Innis: do you have a title for the book yet, or is that to be revealed? I’m
Shawna Lander: not allowed to say it yet. Yeah,
Christa Innis: to, I love it. I love the mystery.
Shawna Lander: And then, um, that’s, that’s kind of it for now. There’s more stuff Awesome. Coming.
Christa Innis: There’s, I’m sure there’s always tons of stuff you’re working on.
Plus you’re a mama too. You’re a wife. That’s, you. Don’t you love when people are like, which I was gonna ask you about this earlier, like the pressures of like, get it out faster. I need to know what I need to know. Like
Shawna Lander: how
Christa Innis: do you like, deal with that? Like I’m, you’re like, I do also have a, have a life too.
And
Shawna Lander: Yeah, I have, uh, just realized that I, I think I have to change up the way that I’m releasing the content, um, because. People are very eager for the next part to come out. Um, so I, yeah. On the back end here, I’m like, suddenly like, oh, hold on, I’ve gotta change. I, I need to make some adjustments because how do I, how do I make this happen faster or give myself more time in between something, something has to change because people yell at me a lot.
Christa Innis: Yes. And you gotta give yourself grace like
Shawna Lander: that. I understand. It’s very exciting, fun, but oh my god.
Christa Innis: Exciting. But like, you’re a human too. It’s like the constant reminder of like, we also deserve to like zen. Send out a little bit. Awesome. Well, thank you again. This was so fun hanging out with you.
Shawna Lander: It was so fun. Thank you.
Guest List Wars, Boundary Battles, and Stepmom Sabotage with Ivette Bracken
My new book Here Comes the Drama: A Ferris and Sloan Story is live!
She invited the EX… to the engagement party. No, seriously.
In this episode, I’m joined by one of my closest friends and my maid of honor, Ivette, and we dive into a “simple” guest list boundary that spirals fast into pressure, guilt-tripping, and family members who just won’t take no for an answer. We break down why weddings seem to bring out the most chaotic behavior and what it actually looks like to stay grounded when everyone has an opinion.
Plus, with Ivette’s perspective as a therapist, we get real about marriage, accountability, and why the real test isn’t the wedding, it’s how you show up for your partner when things get messy.
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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments
- Therapy Meets Wedding Drama – Ivette shares real insights on how couples grow when they stop blaming each other and start taking accountability.
- The Guest List That Wouldn’t Die – One bride sets clear boundaries… and her family keeps pushing anyway.
- “We’ll Pay for It” Pressure – When money becomes leverage—and why that’s not the real issue.
- Boundary Setting 101 – Why couples need to align first before inviting outside opinions into big decisions.
- Stepmom Sabotage Story – An engagement party turns shocking when the ex shows up… invited by the mother.
- Emotional Manipulation Escalates – From guilt-tripping to rewriting reality, the drama goes way beyond the wedding.
- Red Light, Green Light Moments – From social media oversharing to themed dress codes—what’s actually okay?
- Real Talk on Marriage Foundations – Why choosing your partner (especially in hard moments) matters more than anything.
Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode
- “You can’t have someone tell you how to make it work, they’re not in your marriage.” – Christa Innis
- “You and your partner need to get on the same page first, then invite other people in.” – Christa Innis
- “It’s not about the money, that’s not the problem. It’s about the boundary.” – Christa Innis
- “If someone hates you and offers to host your party? Immediate no.” – Christa Innis
- “Weddings bring in all these outside opinions and that’s where the drama starts.” – Christa Innis
- “I’m not here to fix anything, I’m here to hold up a mirror.” – Ivette
- “When people stop pointing fingers and take ownership, that’s when change happens.” – Ivette
- “They’re not going to learn it until they’re ready.” – Ivette
- “That’s not really authentic, and you’ll look back and wonder why you did it.” – Ivette
- “I would feel so small knowing my mother-in-law invited my husband’s ex. That would kill me.” – Ivette
*This conversation is for entertainment and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Please seek a licensed professional for your specific situation.
About Ivette
Ivette is more than a returning guest, she’s part of Christa’s inner circle and stood by her side as matron of honor. As a mom, wife, and psychotherapist, she brings thoughtful perspective, emotional insight, and a little unfiltered honesty to the mic.
She’s all about conversations that actually matter whether that’s relationships, boundaries, or the realities behind wedding dynamics. With her mix of warmth, humor, and real-life experience, Ivette isn’t afraid to say what others are thinking… and maybe give a little advice along the way.
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Christa Innis: While at college, he met his future wife. Oh no. I feel like I know where this is going. She came from a very close knit family, and they immediately saw through my stepmother’s behavior. My stepmother told anyone who would listen that she hated this woman. Oh. She’s talking about the future wife. She hated this woman and that she would never be good enough. Ugh. Hi, Ivette. Welcome back on the pod.
Ivette Bracken: Thanks.
Christa Innis: I thought
Ivette Bracken: so. Happy to be here.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I thought it was time that you came back. I feel like it’s like once, uh, is this your fourth time now?
Ivette Bracken: I think so, yeah.
The Truth About Couples Therapy: It’s Not What You Think
Christa Innis: I think it’s like once a quarter. It’s just, yeah. Only right. That you come back on. Um, and, uh. Yeah, I mean, like what’s, what’s new since the last time?
It’s, it’s like what’s new for the audience versus what’s new since I saw you two days ago. So,
Ivette Bracken: um, well, we just moved, uh, into a new home, so that’s kind of exciting. But then also, um, just, you know, I, I think I told you last time, like I’ve gotten a new job and that’s exciting and I have a lot of clients.
So I’m a therapist and I get to work with little kids and adults and, and I’ve also been working with married couples now, and so that’s been fun. A little challenging, but yeah, exciting. Exciting for sure.
Christa Innis: Yeah. That’s awesome. Do you feel like that’s like, kind of like been a new stage in your work now?
Like, like as you kind of started it was more individuals and now it’s more couples?
Ivette Bracken: Well, I would say I still focus on like kids, adolescents. Really. I think my heart is like teenagers, right? Like I just love working with teens.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Ivette Bracken: But, um, I was, you know, I was like, why not? Like, I love marriage and, and I think marriage is hard and beautiful and, and there’s so many great parts to it.
And so I thought it would be exciting to walk alongside with people. And so it hasn’t been easy, right? But then just remembering like, Hey, I’m. I am not the one that can kind of change things for these people. It’s really up to them. And if there is change at the end of the day, it’s because they want it.
So, yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah,
Ivette Bracken: it’s pretty cool. Mm-hmm.
Christa Innis: I love that. No, I feel like that’s good and I feel like people are always looking for that kind of. It’s like an outside perspective, but you make a good point about like, it has to come from within. Like you can’t have someone tell you like, you need to make this work and you do it this way because ultimately they’re not in the marriage.
Right. So what do you do when someone kind of going down on, we’re gonna turn down this road over here. Um, what do you do when someone like comes to you with like. Like marital issues or like, like how can you tell a couple’s really willing to like, work together? Or are you kinda like, like what’s like that next?
Ivette Bracken: Yeah,
Christa Innis: yeah.
Ivette Bracken: So really the way that I set it up is like, hey. People come to therapy, they come to couples counseling because they think it’s like, oh, you’re gonna fix everything. And I’m like, no, that, that is like so opposite from what I do. I’m like, really, this space, I’m kind of this, this person that’s, that gets to be here along the ride.
But really I’m, I’m kind of holding up a mirror and I’m, and I’m allowing, allowing each individual to reflect and see like, how do I show up for this other person? How do I show up in the relationship? And I think when I know that a couple is ready, right? They stop pointing fingers at the other person and they start taking ownership and responsibility for the choices that they’re making.
And so it is, it’s really hard when it know you’re trying to point out the patterns and you’re like, guys, like I see this happening over and over again, but it’s kind of like a toddler, right? If you’re like telling a toddler to like. Hey, don’t stand on the chair. You’re, you’re gonna fall. Like, don’t stand on the chair.
You’re gonna fall. And they just keep doing it. They’re like, I’m fine. I’m fine. And then finally they fall. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, well, they’ve like. Experience it. That’s they’re ready, like next time they’re gonna be like, okay, now I know not to do that because I’ve learned my lesson, but it’s, they’re not gonna know it until they’re ready for it.
If that, if that makes sense.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. I was just saying that too. My husband Zach, um, the other day about like, you know, you always wanna like protect your kids and be like, don’t do that ’cause you’re gonna do, you’re gonna fall. But I’m like, half the things we tell her, I’m like, she has to do. Experience it through her own like lived experience to be like, wait, that’s not a good idea.
Obviously there’s some things like, we’re gonna be like, we’re gonna stop before it happens.
Ivette Bracken: Right?
Why Weddings Bring Out the Worst in People
Christa Innis: But there’s definitely those things. So I feel like that’s, that’s an interesting way to put it. It was like they have to be able to like walk that road and be like, oh, wait a second. Like, that’s not the way I wanna go.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah.
Christa Innis: So I feel like this is like, you’re, it’s an interesting thing to bring up, especially like in the podcast and like how we’re talking about like marriage and weddings and the drama and stuff. Because I feel like a lot of these issues that come up in these stories, like there is a lot of finger pointing, right?
And it’s like, of course the, I shouldn’t say like the drama that comes to me, it’s typically not about. The bride and group itself, the
Ivette Bracken: couple, right?
Christa Innis: It’s like not about the couple, it’s about all the exterior things that are bringing drama in. But you gotta think like with a wedding, a funeral movie, any kind of big moment in people’s lives bring on all these extra like stressors and conflicting relation or personalities.
And so I feel like that’s a lot of times the hardest part in a lot of these stories we read.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Um, kind of the outside opinions and then two, like if you wanted to present that to a couple, it’s like, okay, well then like how do you show up for your partner in this case?
Right? Like, how can you do that reflective work and like. Do you show up for them? Are you there to like say, oh no, this is now, this is my family now I need to tend to their needs and their feelings and their emotions because there kind of needs to be this. I wish, I wish people would have more conversations of like, Hey, mom, dad, brother, sister, whatever, extended family.
This is what our marriage is gonna look like. And these are, are the boundaries that we’ve established together. And I, I wish that was more of a norm. And not just with marriage, right? Like going into parenthood. Because what happens is like their opinions start to trickle in. Like all these things start to trickle in.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Ivette Bracken: And then you’re like really frustrated with. These people and you’re like, oh my gosh, I can’t, I can’t stand that. They’re always like giving their 2 cents when I don’t ask for it. But there was al, there was never that kind of like established boundary talk, right? That there was never this conversation.
And so I’m, I’m hoping that that’s kind of the direction that we’re gonna move, especially like our generation experience experiencing this firsthand and being like. Well, I wanna be that person for when my kids get married, but like, I wanna ask my daughter and their, and her husband, like, hey, like what is okay and what’s not okay.
Right. Like, when is it okay for me to, to give advice? And so, yeah. Yeah. Another little tangent. Tangent.
Christa Innis: No, I love that though, because I, that really lines into like the things we see because, I mean, like, boundaries I feel like are so important. And then when people send, you know, stories to me about like.
We’re planning our wedding and like we’ve been so happy. We’re so excited, but. His mom or her sister, or you know, whatever, whoever’s coming in, they say, we need to do it this way, we need to do that. And so I always constantly say like, you and your partner need to get on the same page first, then invite other people in when you want and for what you want.
So not just like, Hey everyone, we’re having a wedding day. Tell us whatever opinion you have. Or, Hey, we’re about to have a baby. Tell us your favorite opinion. Um, it’s like, this is what we’re doing. Oh, hey, I actually have a question about this. What’s your experience? Um, because I think, I think it’s, so maybe it’s like the previous generation was like all they really had was their moms coming in or their parents coming in saying, this is what you do, this is how you raise a baby.
’cause that’s what we did, because now we’re learning, okay, let’s kind of have a little safe zone and like with our family, our partner, um, and learn what makes sense for our family first, and then kind of invite that in.
Ivette Bracken: Right. Right. And I love that. I love that for, for a lot of different reasons. So,
Christa Innis: yeah.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah.
Christa Innis: I feel like I kind of went on a little, um, tangent too, but I love that.
Ivette Bracken: Okay.
Christa Innis: so, so I wanted to start with like a little like wedding dilemma that someone sent me. I say a little, it’s, it’s. It’s medium sized. Okay. Um, and then we’ll have our red light, green light. So let’s get into this. Okay. For context, I’m an only child, the oldest cousin and the oldest granddaughter.
Because of that, a lot of people have given us unsolicited suggestions about the wedding. Perfect tie in right here.
Yeah.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah.
Guest List Drama: The Battle of “Sister Jane”
Christa Innis: I’m getting married in September and we sent out final RSVPs and invitations a little over a month ago. From the beginning, I made it clear to my family that we were only inviting people we know and have a relationship with.
My aunt Gina mentioned that someone from her church, sister Jane, would definitely come. I told her that I don’t personally know this person and we are only inviting people that we have a relationship with. She said, okay, I understand. Fast forward to August. We’ve had several difficult conversations and have been very firm with our boundaries, so Good.
Good on them. Good
Ivette Bracken: for them. Yeah,
Christa Innis: that’s, I feel like that’s the hardest part, is just like reaffirming, like this is what we’re doing.
Ivette Bracken: Right.
Christa Innis: Then I went to church and saw someone who had an RSVP. She’s over 80, so I wasn’t upset. I asked if she would still like to come. She said yes and was very excited.
Right after that, my Aunt Gina turns to her and says, oh, is brother so-and-so coming right in front of me. I quickly stepped in and clarified that. Only she was invited. Then change the subject to ask what she wanted to eat. After that, I made a clear statement to my Aunt Gina, my parents, the woman and the other person from church.
I said that only the people present there that day were invited to the wedding. My Aunt Gina immediately made a face, turned to my dad. My dad said, don’t worry, we’re going to talk to her later. My dad pulled me aside and told me that Jane is a kind, caring person. I told him, I’m sure that’s true, but I still don’t have a relationship with relationship.
Then he said, we’ll give you the money. Implying that they would cover the cost if we invited her. I told him I needed to talk to my fiance. I hate this. ’cause now this, this woman, like she’s got these strong boundaries, but they’re like poking. They’re like, come on, she’s kind. We’ll pay for her. And I hear people are like, oh, we’re not having kids at the wedding or we’re not inviting, extended.
Mm-hmm. They’re like, well, we’ll pay for it. It’s like, that’s not the problem.
Ivette Bracken: Right. I think I, yeah, I think the fact that they’re like the, the tricky part is like we’ll pay for it. I’m trying to put myself in those shoes and I can be such a people pleaser, so I’d be like, you, well, yeah, you’re paying for it.
I guess it’s fine. And it would kind of like give me that excuse to like bring it up to my person. Right. But at the end of the day, it’s like. This is a very intimate moment, right? Like this is supposed to be where everyone has like a different, you know, kind of vision for their wedding. Mm-hmm. But really it’s like this beautiful moment of like two people becoming one and this random lady who’s just like, wants to go there.
I don’t what, like what would her. Like, does she even want to go like,
Christa Innis: yeah,
Ivette Bracken: like I’m thinking about her, like she’s probably like, oh, they invited me and now I have to go buy a present and like, I don’t even know her. Or, right. Like what’s, I mean, I think about that person too and I’m like, do they even really wanna go?
Or is it just like, you know, mom and dad, it’s like, oh, well this is our friend and we want them to be there, but I don’t think that does anything for the, in. Not invited slash invited person. Yeah. And the bride in your room, right? Like
Christa Innis: Totally. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I think the same way. ’cause I’m like, why are you like going to bat for this person who maybe doesn’t even know the wedding’s happening or doesn’t care, like if they’re invited or not?
Like I’ve seen that time and time again where they’re like, no, this person has to be invited.
Ivette Bracken: Right.
Christa Innis: I, yeah, I don’t know if it like has to do with like appearances too. Like they wanna make sure like mm-hmm. Inviting people from the church when you invite all our main people from church, you know? ’cause
Ivette Bracken: Yeah,
Christa Innis: that can be uncomfortable to be like, oh, well my daughter’s only inviting you and you because she knows you.
So sorry. But yeah, that’s one of those challenges,
Ivette Bracken: right? You think people would be more understanding, but.
Christa Innis: Yeah. She said, my fiance and I discussed it and decided we were not inviting Jane. I told my parents over dinner, they were upset, but they tried to understand. My dad said he would talk to Jane. Okay.
So I’m guessing Jane knows. So she’s like, she wanted to
Ivette Bracken: go. She wanted,
Christa Innis: oh my gosh. Then my Aunt Gina texted me and apologized just when I thought everything was resolved. She sent another message. Asking if I would serve as a security guard at my cousin’s wedding if she asked me to. What?
Ivette Bracken: Oh no, the timing of it is terrible.
Like,
Christa Innis: yeah, she’s like, yeah. So I know there’s this wedding stuff with your wedding, but can you come over here please? Um, she said I was very confused and told her I didn’t understand what she meant. I showed the text to my dad. He asked if I might be, if it might be because my cousins are greeters. I said maybe he suggested that she might think my cousins should have higher ranking roles than just attending as guests, but I said they were fine just being greeters.
So she’s trying to be like, you can have a role at this wedding if. You know, they can have a role, right?
Ivette Bracken: Be a security guard. You can stand outside during the ceremony and then, you know, give, give them a role too.
Christa Innis: So wild how people envision other people’s weddings and how they should do things, right. Um.
I, I hope this is a reminder to me that like when and if my daughter chooses to marry that, I’m like, tell me where you need me. Like, like that’s how my mom was, my mother-in-law, like I’m very lucky. They were both like, you tell me where you need me. I can do this, I can do this. Like, they never like crossed a boundary.
So I’m like very grateful for that because I read stories like this and I’m like, how do you even respond to someone that’s like, okay, so this person will be your flower girl. This person will be this.
Ivette Bracken: Right. Or like those like monster in law stories, which I’m sure you get a bunch of like,
Christa Innis: yeah,
Ivette Bracken: that’s, that’s my nightmare.
But, but yeah, I, I agree. Ugh.
Christa Innis: Um, he then said she might just be trying to find things to be upset about because she’s uncomfortable that Jane isn’t invited. This is Jane. A few days later, my mom brought up Sister Jane again, even though we had already talked everything through. She said Jane wanted to attend to support my dad and show appreciation.
I responded that if her intention is to support my dad, she can do that without attending my wedding. My mom finally agreed. My dad said he would speak to Jane and would support my fiance and my decision 100%. So all this to say, Jane is still not coming, but I still don’t know what to do with my cousins, if they will, if they will be greeters or not.
Ivette Bracken: So basically they weren’t assigned the role of graders prior to this.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Right. Okay. The aunt’s kind of being like, Hey, do you wanna be this at this wedding? Um, yeah,
Ivette Bracken: yeah. I, that’s another no, like, do what you envision. ’cause later on what’s gonna happen is you’re gonna look back and say like, why did I even do that?
You know, like, sure. If, if they offer you and you wanna be a security guard. Sure. Right, if that’s what you wanna do for them. But that doesn’t necessarily mean like, hey, I guess now I have to have them be a part of my, my wedding. ’cause one that’s not really authentic. And then two, you’re gonna look back at pictures and be like, why did I do that?
You know?
Christa Innis: Yeah. I think that’s like with um, wedding parties too. I feel like you hear a lot of times they’re like, well, I was in their wedding so they should be in mine. And I’ve heard that all the time. ’cause it’s like you feel like you kind of owe them. Mm-hmm. At the end of the day though too, it’s like it’s a big ask to have someone in your wedding too.
Like they’re gonna be spending money taking time off work or whatever that looks like. So you, at the end of the day, you really just have to ask for. Look at your partner and be like, what do we want? Um, kinda like what I was just saying, but it sounds like they have really good boundaries. So I mean, like props to them for that.
Yeah. It, it sucks that it constantly is getting crossed and constantly getting tested. Right. But I’m glad you guys are staying firm because I don’t know what I would do if someone constantly kept pushing that same boundary like. You just, none of you can come. I don’t know, like why, and,
Ivette Bracken: and offered solutions to like the tension, right?
Like that’s kind of what makes it harder to be like No. Yeah. So yeah. Good for them.
Christa Innis: Yeah,
Ivette Bracken: I don’t, I don’t know if I would’ve been able to to do that. I see this now, like, yeah, don’t do that. But I don’t know if I would’ve been able to do that. Yes.
Red Flags, Green Lights & Wedding Hot Takes
Christa Innis: Yeah, I, I’d be curious to see if it’s ever brought up again, or if on the wedding day they’re like, oh, sister Jane would’ve loved this, or, you know, picture to Jane.
Oh gosh. Okay. Um, let’s do a little red light, green light. I can’t remember if we did this last time when you were here or not, but it’s basically like, oh. Say a statement and you say if it’s like a good thing or a bad thing or like you, you agree with it. Okay. Hosting your entire wedding planning drama on social media.
Ivette Bracken: Oh, red light. No. No. Why?
Christa Innis: Can we talk about, have you seen like there has been so many on both sides of vendors and like brides or groomed. Posting like some kind of wedding drama and it backfiring because they weren’t telling the whole truth. Like there was one with a bride where she was like, my makeup was ruined.
She did that on TikTok. She wiped it off and she’s like, I’m doing it myself. The makeup artist like spoke and she is like, she never once told me she didn’t like anything. I had no clue. Like I’m mortified. And then there was a photographer that this happened to where she like tagged the photographer and she was like, oh, she did a horrible job on my photos.
And all she did was share just blurry photos. But the photographer was like, that’s like part of her aesthetic. Like it didn’t, you looked at the whole album, it looked beautiful. Right. So I’m team like. Don’t do that because it’s gonna, it’s gonna backfire. Like it’s just, yeah.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah. I mean, AMAs, that’s like your line of work and you’re like, these, what is it?
The real, the Housewives of Mormon, whatever, you know, the Mormon wives,
Christa Innis: the Housewives of Mormon wives, wives of Mormon wives.
Ivette Bracken: So unless your life is to like produce drama and entertain, entertain people, don’t do it. Yeah. Like, don’t do it.
Christa Innis: How about, yeah, don’t post about it, but send it to me anonymously and we’ll react to it on the podcast and then give on, yeah.
This way you’re anonymous so you can see what side people are on because that, that is a helpful thing is like, ’cause then I’ll post a story and people will be like, oh my gosh, this is crazy. So then you’re anonymous, you’re safe, but we can kind of discuss.
Ivette Bracken: And then we will tell you like, are you crazy or not?
Like, who are right?
Christa Innis: Yes. Yes. Um, a parent trying to control the guest list because they’re helping pay,
Ivette Bracken: oh, red light. Red light. And again, I, it’s easier said than done, but like. That’s a gift. You don’t, you don’t get to give someone like a shirt and say, well you can, you have to wear it every Saturday. Like, no.
Right. So,
Christa Innis: and I always say it’s mutual respect because if someone that you mutual respect with the person and they want to help, then I’m like, yes, invite. Whoever you want to the wedding, right? It’s like, what if it’s someone that’s like, been rude to you and they’re just like dangling money by a string and they’re like, oh, let me help pay for it and invite Sister Jane, you know, whatever.
Then that’s a different situation. Um, couples asking guests to wear specific color palette,
Ivette Bracken: um, green light. You like that? I, I like to see it. Um, as a guest I would be like. I might be a little annoyed by it, but no, I love aesthetically like things that are beautiful and good looking, and I get it and
Christa Innis: I, I would love to go to like a themed wedding like that, or like a color palette.
I’ve never have. I think I personally would like it ’cause I get very overwhelmed with like, what’s the style, what’s this? And like I’ll have one dress, I’m like, is this too formal? Is this too dark of a color? And so I feel like I would love that. Um,
Ivette Bracken: I would, I think that’d be the pictures that are gonna look great for the bride in the groom, but also like, it’s just a color.
It’s not saying like, you have to buy the most fanciest stress, you know, at the most expensive store. It’s just a color.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Destination weddings that require three days of events.
Ivette Bracken: Um, you the require bit, that’s a lot to ask for. That’s, that’s a red light or Yeah, a red light, I think. I think like, Hey.
We’ve done this, we’ve planned these events out for these days. We’re gonna be there if you guys wanna come. You are welcome to come, but you can’t be offended if someone’s not gonna spend $3,000 for your wedding. Like, yeah. Did they even spend that on their own wedding, right? No. Mm-hmm.
Christa Innis: Right. And I don’t like the whole like yeah, the required thing.
That’s okay. Um. And I don’t like the whole required thing, like you said.
Okay. I’m gonna do one more. Okay. Um, ooh, these are like really good. So I wanna do two more. Okay. One more. What are your thoughts on couples sharing a social media account? I,
Ivette Bracken: um, I’m indifferent. Sure. I don’t care. It’s.
Um, I, I’m torn red light because why do you need, why do you need to share an account on social media but green light? ’cause my hope is that people that do share it like don’t really. Care enough to like have an, I don’t know, to have like person, I don’t know how to explain it.
Christa Innis: I think it’s one of those things where it’s like if you really did choose together, like honestly, and you’re like, or maybe one of you guys don’t really care about social media and it’s like, let’s just do a family one or joint one order, because I’ve seen that before where it’s like a family one.
Ivette Bracken: Mm-hmm.
Christa Innis: Where I have seen it. Be kind of questionable is where it’s a control thing where maybe one doesn’t trust the other. So they’re like, all the messages are coming through here. We’re only on one. You’re not allowed to have your own social media. So that’s where I’m like, okay, if they decide together, sure.
But like, whatever Doesn’t hurt me if you do that. But yeah,
Ivette Bracken: I, I agree with you. And I think that’s why I said green light, because I’ve actually seen the opposite of that, so that’s why I’m like, no. Yeah, it’s fine. Doable. Okay. Fine.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Alright. Um. Last. Okay, last one. Last one. We’re using last. We’re using a bridesmaid dress from another wedding.
Ivette Bracken: Fine freely. I don’t, I don’t. I don’t mind. It’s it.
Christa Innis: Please do.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah. Save money. If you love it. You look good in it. It feels good. Do it.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I always tell people how you got your dress for my wedding. I think, wasn’t it like half off? So it was like 50 bucks I think.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah, it was like a whole thing with mine.
I don’t remember. I was, I was pregnant, I was trying to figure out my size. I didn’t like the dress. They sent me two wrong ones and then I ended up being like half off. And I,
Christa Innis: yeah, I was like, you’ve ordered, you ended up ordering it during like a sale or something and it like worked. The timing ended up working out.
But yeah, there was a lot of, it was a lot of back and forth ’cause we were like, I think I went over to bring your. Jacket and you were like, oh my gosh, the dress I ordered. ’cause you ordered your dress like right away, right? And you’re like, oh my gosh, so much has changed since then. Um, but yeah. But yeah, I’m like, I wouldn’t care as a bride, like please use a, a dress you already have if it works
Ivette Bracken: right.
The Stepmom Story That Sounds Fake… But Isn’t
Christa Innis: Let’s get into this week’s story reaction, which honestly I think the dilemma was longer than this. So I think we’re good on time. Okay. Um, hi. Long time fan. I figured I’d send this to you because I think it’s a pretty crazy story. My stepmother is well crazy, like over the top, wild, and extremely narcissistic.
No one is immune from her chaos. She has two sons. Her oldest is very devoted to her. He even bought her, bought a house 10 doors down from where she lived, so he could always wait. She bought, I know. I’m like, wait, no. He bought the house so that he could always be near to take care of her. So she’s like expecting that, I guess.
She and his father divorced when he was in high school, so he chose to attend a local college to make sure that she would still be taken care of.
Ivette Bracken: Oh, no.
Christa Innis: While at college, he met his future wife. Oh no. I feel like I know where this is going. She came from a very close knit family, and they immediately saw through my stepmother’s behavior.
Ivette Bracken: Mm-hmm.
Christa Innis: My stepmother told anyone who would listen that she hated this woman. Oh. She’s talking about the future wife. She hated this woman and that she would never be good enough. Ugh. Because she knows she’s not gonna get 100% of his attention anymore. That’s right. She strongly preferred his previous girlfriend and even stayed in touch with her for years.
I’m again, I’m probably just jumping the gun, but it’s probably because that one like bowed down to her and was like,
Ivette Bracken: yes, yes, absolutely. Really
Christa Innis: clean. I’m just here. It’s fine.
Ivette Bracken: Ugh.
Christa Innis: When the couple got engaged, my stepmother volunteered to host their engagement party and she invited the ex.
Ivette Bracken: I knew it. I knew that’s what was coming.
This the nerve. How dare you.
Christa Innis: Even more so. Obviously we don’t know yet. The girlfriend comes, ex-girlfriend. Why would you like go to that? I would be like, no, thank you. Like any normal person would be like, no.
Ivette Bracken: Like, do you not love your son? Like, don’t you want it to be a good experience for him? I can’t. I can’t.
My heart just sank. I just feel like all of my own insecurities came up for myself and like, yeah. I would feel so small, even just knowing that my mother-in-law invited my now husband’s ex to anything. Yeah, that would kill me.
Christa Innis: She now made it Her party. Yeah. The stepmother made it her party and made you just like a wall, like you’re basically just like a side there because you’re, she made it so you weren’t comfortable in her home, basically.
Terrible. Then the cake was brought out. Oh no. Oh no. I just read a hug. Then the cake was brought out. It had the ex-girlfriend’s name on it, not the fiance’s. So she is literally trying to sabotage their whole thing.
Ivette Bracken: Okay. I kind of, when you said cake, that’s what I thought, but I was like, there’s no way.
There’s no way. But
Christa Innis: are you kidding? That is wild. See, and also like, again, I am reading it like. As an outsider person, but the second I knew if someone I knew hated me, that hated me was offering to host my party immediately, no. Immediately, no. ’cause they don’t have your best interest. They are not gonna like, think about you and your partner, they’re gonna think about ways to like to sabotage you in the wedding.
Ivette Bracken: Yes.
Christa Innis: So I would be saying no to that. I’m not going to that party. There’s no way like.
Ivette Bracken: And at the same time, I wanna give this like the, the bride like this. Maybe she was kind of trying to be the bigger person and give her that benefit of the doubt and that, and it totally backfired. You know what I mean?
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Ivette Bracken: That’s horrible.
Christa Innis: Ugh. So I’m trying to remember. Okay. So, okay, so the, um, the person that wrote this story in, it’s her stepmother. Then it’s like her son. Okay,
Ivette Bracken: so she was there. She’s like,
Christa Innis: they’re seeing it like, yes. And so I’m guessing, well, maybe that’s why. So her dad is the one that divorced now, so she’s.
Single as the wedding approached, she repeatedly tried to convince her son not to marry this f his fiance. She threatened not to attend the wedding and even offered to pay for an entirely different wedding if he would change his mind. She pulled in anyone she could to try to persuade him otherwise. She even even telling him that his grandmother was distraught and hated the fiance.
Because when someone, someone goes low, if someone’s low like that, they wanna bring everyone down with them. They can’t stand to see people happy or the people’s like proud or on another side.
Ivette Bracken: No.
Christa Innis: The wedding eventually took place, though she was clearly upset about it. The newly married couple left for their honeymoon in Hawaii early the next morning.
That same day, the grandmother passed away in her sleep. She had a history of heart problems. My stepmother immediately began telling everyone that the grandmother died of a broken heart because, because her grandson had gone through with the marriage.
Ivette Bracken: Wait,
Christa Innis: a put that on your grand, like your son, right?
Ivette Bracken: This, this, who is this woman? Send me your details. Like, I can’t believe her. That is horrible. Like, oh no. Like
Christa Innis: she’s like dealing with something from the divorce or something where she’s like holding onto her kids and like thinking that what, what is that term of like enmeshment where she’s like, they are me, I am them.
And if they, sorry, that’s a therapist term. I’m not a therapist. I shouldn’t use that.
Ivette Bracken: I was the whole time. I’m thinking like, how would I even do a session with them? This is insane.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Because I feel like that she’s so caught up in, they belong to me, whatever I say they should be doing, and Oh, grandmother died because of you.
It’s your fault.
Ivette Bracken: Oh man.
Christa Innis: Wow. She even called the airport and had a message sent to the plane saying there was an emergency. Can you do that?
Ivette Bracken: This sounds, this sounds crazy. This sounds, are we sure this is real?
Christa Innis: I don’t know. I, okay. There’s been times where people send us stories and I’m like, did they like ai?
This, this sounds so fake to me, but then I’ll like share the story and people are like, no, this thing happened to me. Unless, this was like years ago. Oh wait, this was the early nineties. I just saw it. This was the early nineties. She wrote it. I’m like, I’m thinking of like friends, even though Me too.
Ivette Bracken: That’s exactly what I thought of.
Christa Innis: I guess they had cell phones at the end of friends, but in the early nineties, you know, you didn’t have cell phones, so you would’ve had to have called.
Ivette Bracken: Right.
Christa Innis: Emergency. I guess that’s how you had to do it.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Gosh. And because I was like, it’s funny, I was doing like a skit recently and I was like, it was supposed to be in the nineties, and I was like, wait, if a car accident happened, you wouldn’t have a cell phone.
So I’m like, Googling. I was like, what would’ve been there? And it was like, oh, there was more pay phones or like you could, you know, have like an emergency, like tow truck would come by, you know, whatever. And I was like, that’s, you know, you just kind of forget. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, I guess that makes more sense.
It’s still crazy, but it makes more sense that it was the nineties. Yeah,
Ivette Bracken: it’s still crazy. It does make more sense. Yeah.
Christa Innis: So you have no way of like calling or texting them. Um, she even called the airport and had a message sent to the plane saying there was an emergency and that he needed to call immediately.
’cause this was the early nineties when he called, she demanded that he come home because according to her, he had killed his grandmother. That’s how she worded it.
The Real Issue: When Your Partner Doesn’t Choose You
Christa Innis: Years later when the younger son, who was her pride and joy of life was getting married for the second time, she caused more chaos. She told his fiance that she liked her so much more than his first wife because she thought the first wife was unattractive.
That and that it was no wonder he had cheated on her so many times. Okay, so the suns aren’t great either, or that sun.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah, no, I can see where they get it from.
Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. The fiance did not know that infidelity had been the cause of the divorce. Okay,
Ivette Bracken: well
Christa Innis: that’s on him.
Ivette Bracken: That’s a whole nother issue.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Like he should have been honest with her about that. So yeah, you can be mad at the stepmom about that, but he should have told her that. Yeah. She then told the fiance that the entire family was secretly planning to leave the rehearsal dinner early so they could have a dinner with the first wife because they all liked her better.
This was not true. The rehearsal dinner ended in complete chaos. When the fiance left in distress, the wedding almost didn’t happen at all, and the son initially banned his mother from attending. Eventually, he relented and the wedding went ahead as planned. His wife now avoids interacting with his side of the family unless absolutely necessary.
So she botched not one, but two weddings.
Ivette Bracken: Right.
Christa Innis: And we don’t know what happened with that first wife’s wedding, if that
Ivette Bracken: Right. I just, I, I just, I feel for these women that like. You don’t really realize how much of an impact that makes. Like Yeah, like the, the wedding, that’s obviously, that’s horrible, but like long term you don’t have support, you don’t have like your village.
What happens when there’s kids like these poor, these poor girls, like I. Even just hearing this, I already said this, but I feel so small. Like I would not wanna feel that way on my wedding day. You know? I would want to feel accepted and, and I guess that makes them strong for, for being able to like, go through with this, right?
And being like, no, I love this person. And that just means that we’re gonna have to do our lives without them and have some boundaries. But, wow. Just,
Christa Innis: yeah. And you said something earlier that made me think about like. In these moments. That’s when the fiance, I think the partner, whoever has the challenging family at the time, right?
Mm-hmm. They really need to step up and be like, I choose you. I’m on your side. We’re in this together. Because if they are not in those challenging moments, that’s when it’s gonna falter. I think, and I’ve gotten a lot of stories where like I’m read as I’m reading it, I’m like, this seems like a bad Oman.
Like something. And then later they’re like, and we got divorced. We didn’t, we didn’t last. Because if you’re gonna constantly have someone like that. Where the fiance or the now the husband or wife hasn’t fully chosen you, right? And they’re still going back to like their family who like hates you or talks about you in this negative light.
That marriage is gonna just be crumbling because you’re gonna be like, well, do they actually care? Are they gonna listen to what their family say?
Ivette Bracken: Right?
Christa Innis: As a whole, I feel like other layer of like complications for sure.
Ivette Bracken: It’s just a bad, a bad foundation to start on really like,
Christa Innis: yeah,
Ivette Bracken: yeah,
Christa Innis: yeah,
Ivette Bracken: yeah. That’s hard.
Christa Innis: I feel like if you don’t, which again, I’ve never been in that situation where you have to pick and choose.
Ivette Bracken: Mm-hmm.
Christa Innis: But in that situation, especially, let’s say this, this story, the stepmother, or I guess it’s his mom, but if you don’t cut her out, she’s going to make sure your marriage fails. Oh yeah. So still you like make that firm cut.
Ivette Bracken: Mm-hmm.
Christa Innis: So you will constantly find a way to get in there. So you did make your choice and stick through it. I mean, this ha she didn’t mention anything about them staying married or anything like that, so, or not, so I don’t know how it worked out, but.
Ivette Bracken: Well, the good, good job for you girls, because I couldn’t have done it.
They did it good for them. And you know, I’m just like, hopefully they’re still together and hopefully those boundaries are up, right? Mm-hmm. Because that’s. Wow. I feel like this was like a, a nineties movie.
Christa Innis: Yes, I know. I’m like picturing like running through the airport and Yeah. Oh my gosh. That’s funny that we both thought of friends friends right away.
I like saw her like Should I get off the plane? Yeah, I plane. There’s a problem with the phang. Oh, that’s what it is. Phoebe calls, right?
Ivette Bracken: Oh yes.
Christa Innis: Phoebe calls the airport or she calls her phone ’cause she has cell phone. That has to be in like 2000. Was that 2001?
Ivette Bracken: I think the show started 2002. I wanna say
Christa Innis: ended in 2002.
Ivette Bracken: Sorry. It ended in 2000? No, 2004. I think it ended because I think it started in 94.
Christa Innis: That’s
Ivette Bracken: what are you googling?
Christa Innis: Yeah, I’m Googling 94 to to two to 2004. I can talk. That’s
Ivette Bracken: right.
Christa Innis: Sometimes I’m like, my mouth doesn’t work when I talk. That’s wild. Sport came out.
Ivette Bracken: Aw, I was too a little bit younger. I’m just kidding.
Christa Innis: Oh baby.
Ivette Bracken: It’s alright. We were both born in the 19 hundreds. We’re old now.
Christa Innis: I know. I’m so old. It’s funny, I turned on friends the other day, like I was like, I need to, like, I haven’t watched friends in so long and I was like, so much like still applies, but I still feel like they’re like really young. They, they’re supposed to be like early twenties I think in the beginning.
Yeah, like 22, 23. And I was like, they seemed like, they feel like older than me still though, because I watched it as a kid. So like they just seemed so like put together and like, I’m like, oh my gosh, it’s,
Ivette Bracken: but not put together at all.
Christa Innis: They’re not put together literally at all. But I still look at them. I’m like, oh my gosh, they’re so cool.
Alright, well that was a wild one. I just. I jumped right in there. Okay. I always like to end these with confessions that people send me on Instagram. So let’s see what we got this week.
Ivette Bracken: Good. I thought I had to confess something.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Did you plan your confession? One time? Actually, I had someone on and she’s like, I’ll, I’ll confess something.
And then she did and she was like, do you have anything? And I was like, uh um, I’ll think, I don’t know if I have anything. Where do I start? I. I can never think of anything like on the spot. I’m so bad with stuff like that. Okay. This week we asked what almost made you lose it at a wedding, but you played it.
Cool. Um, okay. This person said extra guest. My mother-in-law innocently said to my aunt, the, the whole family is invited. Grandson came with a plus one or mother-in-law said to his aunt or fiance’s aunt, I’m guessing. So everyone’s invited. Um, dad left and didn’t walk me down the aisle because I wouldn’t talk to my not invited mom.
That’s a whole story. Dunno what’s there.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah. Can you send Chris to the details please?
Christa Innis: Yeah. Send me what happened there. I feel like that’s, there’s so, there’s so little, I don’t know to like, respond to that. Mm-hmm.
Ivette Bracken: Mm-hmm.
Christa Innis: But either way, I don’t think a parent should leave a wedding. Um, food was two personal sized pizzas.
No choice for toppings for each table of eight people.
Ivette Bracken: Oh,
Christa Innis: that’s interesting. I mean, I love pizza personally, but if they only just gave like two little personal sized pizzas and you go to a wedding hungry, that’s the thing. You have to feed your guests.
Ivette Bracken: Yeah.
Christa Innis: I wouldn’t be mad if I was at a wedding and they just served pizza.
I’ve actually been to weddings where they had a food truck and it was pizza and it was amazing. Yeah, so, but you have to plan accordingly and have enough food.
Ivette Bracken: I think my kids are losing it. Gimme one second.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Ivette Bracken: Hey Allie and pri, I’m almost done. Okay. I told you I was gonna be in the office.
Christa Innis: Okay. We’ll do one last one, then we’ll close out here. Okay. Um, definitely lost it on my maid of honor. We’re still besties. I just didn’t want to pee with a crowd. I need more to that story.
Ivette Bracken: I’m, I don’t know. I don’t know. It’s going on.
Christa Innis: Why do you wanna pee with a crown? I don’t know. I’m wondering if it’s like maybe she had like a bridal suite and people kept coming in or something. I don’t know. Yeah, tell us more. Tell us more. These little snippets are not enough.
Ivette Bracken: That’s what I’m thinking.
Like she was like either in like one of those big stalls or like in her bridal suite and people are just coming in and out and she’s trying to tell her like, Hey, can you tell him? She’s like, no, no, it’s fine. It’s fine. They just need this or that.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my gosh.
Ivette Bracken: I guess we don’t know.
Christa Innis: I don’t know. Guess we’ll have to just make our own assumptions.
Um, all right. Well thank you so much for coming on today. Um, and it’s always, it’s always fun hanging out. I feel like I try to make them not super like formal, but then I like revert back. I’m like, thank you. It’s been fun today. Um, yeah. Thank you.
Ivette Bracken: I love being here. Thanks for having me. And then, um, maybe let’s not wait until, you know, quarter of a year has gone by.
Christa Innis: Yeah,
Ivette Bracken: I know.
Christa Innis: It’s always also I’m like, we gotta get her back on. Um, but also it’s like, I see you in person. So then I’m like, that’s like our therapy session or like hang out friend therapy session. And then I’m like, oh yeah, we should get on the podcast. Maybe that’s why like when you’re on, I’m like, oh, I need to be like professional.
’cause I’m like, I don’t wanna like. Slip and say something and forget. I’m like, recording
Ivette Bracken: hang out. Right? Like, we don’t wanna just hang out kind of thing.
Christa Innis: Yeah. We don’t wanna just,
Ivette Bracken: I think we did that the first time and now we’re doing it again, so we can Well, we’ll stop.
Christa Innis: Yes, exactly. All right. Well thank you so much for coming on and, um, I guess this is it.
Ivette Bracken: This is it. I hope you like it.
Christa Innis: My brain is so like, full of everything. I’m just like, I don’t even know who I am or what I’m doing these days. All right. Bye bye.
Ivette Bracken: Love you, bye.
Friendship Breakup, Legal Advice, and a Sister-in-Law Wedding Meltdown with Salma Qaddourah
My new book Here Comes the Drama: A Ferris and Sloan Story is live!
The wedding drama that leaves everyone confused, even after hearing the full story.
What should have been a smooth, joyful wedding quickly takes a turn when a sister-in-law’s behavior starts to stand out. From tension leading up to the day to a moment at the reception that shifts the entire mood, the situation builds in a way no one quite understands in real time.
In this episode, Christa sits down with Salma Qaddourah, an attorney who shares her own experience navigating prenups, financial control, and the risks of entering a marriage without full transparency. Through both personal insight and professional perspective, she breaks down why these conversations matter early on.
Tune in as they unpack unclear intentions, shifting narratives, and the kind of wedding moments that reveal more than they seem to on the surface.
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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments
- The Conversation That Sparked It All – A casual prenup suggestion quickly reveals deeper issues around control, trust, and who gets to have influence in the relationship.
- The Slow Fade Friendship – Missed calls and unanswered texts turn into a quiet but intentional distance, with no real conversation to explain it.
- Uninvited Without a Word – After being heavily involved in the planning, Salma realizes she never received an invitation, confirming where she stands.
- Pre-Wedding Tension Builds – Travel stress, complaints, and small moments leading up to the wedding start to hint at bigger issues beneath the surface.
- The Reception Walkout – During the final songs of the night, a sister-in-law leaves early, shifting the tone of what should have been a celebratory ending.
- The Morning After Cold Goodbye – A rushed exit and a strange send-off leave the couple confused and questioning what went wrong.
- The Story That Keeps Changing – Multiple explanations surface after the wedding, but none of them fully make sense or take accountability.
- Red Light, Green Light Reality Check – From verbal agreements to risky decisions, a quick breakdown of common mistakes that can lead to bigger problems.
Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode
- “It’s hard to protect what you don’t know.” – Salma Qaddourah
- “I would never be with someone who is so comfortable disrespecting my friends.” – Salma Qaddourah
- “There is a little bit of a risk there and people hate when I say that, but it is just a fact of life.” – Salma Qaddourah
- “I think the best thing you can do if you end up on the other side of it is just be accountable and make amends.”– Salma Qaddourah
- “An agreement doesn’t have to be this expensive or lengthy process.” – Salma Qaddourah
- “Women or stay-at-home parent need to be involved in the finances” – Christa Innis
- “Anything can happen, any life altering thing can happen.” – Christa Innis
- “ As long as you and your partner are on the same page about boundaries and what you will and will not stand for, I think that will make it easier. ” – Christa Innis
- “You need to be involved in the finances. You need to be 50/50.” – Christa Innis
- “If he’s controlling everything, he’s more looking at you like a housekeeper.” – Christa Innis
*This conversation is for entertainment and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Please seek a licensed professional for your specific situation.
About Salma
Salma Qaddourah is an attorney in Indianapolis, focusing on family and divorce law. She has seen how quickly things can shift when communication is overlooked in the lead-up to a wedding.
She shares insights drawn from both her professional experience and real-life situations, often focusing on the things people overlook before getting married. From prenups to financial awareness, her perspective is rooted in helping people think ahead and ask better questions.
It comes across like advice from a big sister who wants the best for you. Less about telling you what to do, more about making sure you are thinking things through.
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Salma: Hi,
Christa Innis: I am so excited to have you on. So now we’ll get to your story, but a little background is, I was scrolling on TikTok one day and you had a very interesting story when it comes to weddings and being uninvited as a wedding guest. And I know we’re gonna get to that of who you are.
But starting off, can you just say a little bit about what you do and then that’ll kind of lead into this story as well.
Salma: My name’s Salma Qaddourah. I am an attorney here in Indianapolis. I basically used to do a lot of divorce law. I have tethered off. I am very picky and choosy about much family law I will do at this point.
but that is primarily, I’m still in the attorney space. I have just tried to migrate off that a little bit because it tends to, Spring in the worst situations, if I may say
Christa Innis: That makes a lot of sense. I could see how it can, go that way, for sure. I wanna just jump into this story because I feel like we were kind of saying before recording is there’s a lot of lessons in it and it’s an interesting viewpoint that I think a lot of people don’t hear, right off the bat.
So let’s just start with the story. your poll on social media was about how you got uninvited as a wedding guest. So let’s just jump in.
A Six-Year Friendship That Felt Unbreakable
Salma: Perfect. So I had shared this story on my TikTok, but in my twenties I had this very good friend. Very, very good friend. I had been really good friends with her since I was 23.
I met her at a book club. And so basically, through the years, our big hobby was, during the winter we would go to this gym that had this track and we would just take these like two or three hour walks, and then in the summers and the springs, we would walk and just basically talk about life, do these things.
And I thought we had a pretty solid friendship. Like I felt really good about our friendship, like we did all our birthdays together and we had a really strong foundation. So ultimately when she would date these guys and she would tell me all the stories and eventually she met the guy she would end up marrying.
And so when they started dating, It was just basic, I’m not gonna share information.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: And so they had conversations about one, conversations you should have with your partner.
You should ask your partner like, what do you think our dynamics are gonna be? Or how do you see our dynamics like playing out kind of situation. And so they had sort of decided that once they got married, they would have more of a, I call it traditional, that’s kind of how it’s viewed in the media.
But she was a nurse and he had basically this self-employed startup healthcare business that had done very well.
Christa Innis: Hmm.
Salma: they had just sort of decided he would be like the breadwinner and she would raise the children, which is fine. And so when they got engaged, those conversations heightened. And so during our walks we were talking about like florals and she had sent out save the dates, and I had received a save the date and we had talked about like.
She had not planned on doing a bridal party, but we had planned on doing some sort of like intro, like who was gonna be at the sweetheart table. I mean, I was helping this woman plan her wedding.
Christa Innis: You were like, and so bride me without the title kind of thing.
Salma: Correct. And she wasn’t gonna have like a traditional bridal party.
So I didn’t really care. And I at this point we’re kind of like in early twenties and a lot of people at that point are maybe more willing to forfeit that. Like I’m starting to see that trend more. And so I’m just doing all this stuff and at some point I basically just said, Hey, I was thinking about it very casual, like it was not like a serious lawyer conversation.
And I think because you have a nurse and you do super well and you have your own money, if that is truly the plan, I think you should get a prenup. And so she’s like, really? And I was like, yeah. And so we have this like very friendly exchange. I kind of tell her like. These are some things I think you should ask for.
Like, it wouldn’t be that expensive. Like I’m just kinda giving her the lay down and she’s like super receptive to it.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: Um,
Christa Innis: because,
Salma: and so I don’t,
Christa Innis: sorry to interrupt. Was he expecting her and was it like, was he expecting her like once they got married for her to kind of stop working and like he had kind of, was it his I know and you can stop me if you don’t wanna say too much either, but like was it his idea and his thing of being like, you’re gonna quit your job, I make too much money to quit mine.
Like more of a control thing you felt?
Salma: Yeah. I mean, I think to me, had she been someone, I’d have other friends who, when they get married, that is the plan for them. That is what they want. They want to be stay at home wives stay at home mothers for like one reason or another. Right. And that is perfectly fine.
But their conversations were more like. He said, I grew up in a household where my mom never worked after marriage, and she would do X, Y, z. Like, you know, the cooking, the cleaning, the housekeeping, like
Christa Innis: telling
Salma: her what he’s
Christa Innis: responsible for.
Salma: So like, he kind of laid it out and like, and her brain, she liked being a nurse, but she didn’t love being a nurse.
So she thought, okay, this is gonna be a fair trade off. And so I guess when she presented this idea, I’m sorry, it’s not funny. Um, when she presented this idea of a prenup to this man, he just kind lost his little mind. Like it became very much of a, you know, divorce is not an option for us. We would never get divorced.
I would never let you divorce me. This is just never gonna be. And I, I think some people can romanticize those kinds of statements. But I don’t find them romantic because I think to me it’s healthier to say, I hope we never end up in a situation where we have to part ways. I hope that is never in the cards for us, and I’m not going into this marriage with any intention of that happening, but if it does, and so he reacted poorly, but I was more offended because it didn’t even become like a, I can’t believe you would want this.
It also became a, well, your friend Selma is a nightmare and I can’t believe your friend Selma would say that. And just because Selma’s single doesn’t mean she needs to ruin our relationship. And he just started saying things to her that were so hurtful. And I’m not saying I expected her to like leave this man or whatever, but.
I would never be with someone who is so comfortable, like disrespecting my friends.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: So it was weird. He tried to turn it to like a look how happy we are and Salma just wants that. So she’s trying to tell you to do this thing that’s like this thing being the prenup, which just, which show that we are very insecure in our relationship and I really didn’t,
Christa Innis: words
Salma: I really think, and I think to me the worst part of it was that she drank the Koi.
Like I had known her for, I don’t know, I have six years by that point. Like I thought we had a more, you know, there’s obviously like our past criteria, she was just never someone I thought would do this. And so, as. Like basically very shortly after this, she started to be busy. She started to not make our weekly Sunday walks.
Silent Ghosting, Fallout, and 6 Years Later
She started to, and it’s okay to be busy, right? But like, wait, I mean you, the connection
Christa Innis: there,
Salma: you know, when you’re getting ghosted at some point.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: And I just started to see less and less of her. And like I would send her like a couple texts over the week and not hear back and then be like, everything okay?
And she’d be like, yeah, everything’s fine. And then we have a mutual friend, because that was also in the book club that I met her at. And you know, she basically is texting me about logistics for this wedding. And I realized I never got the, like, you know, after the Rs, like after the save the date and after everything you get the official like rsvp
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: Situation. I had never gotten that. And I was like, oh, this is like. For real, for real. And I realized she had privated me on her Instagram story, so I didn’t see any of the things she was doing, but she never came out and said like, I can’t be your friend anymore. Or there was never like that honest conversation.
Christa Innis: Right. Communication. Yeah. Like
Salma: it was also weird because normally with friend breakups, like you know, you have been dumped, right? Like
Christa Innis: mm-hmm.
Salma: There is an event or a conversation. This was more just, I was trying to back off because I thought she was just really stressed with the wedding and with everything going on, and it was like, oh no, she’s like intentionally trying to not be my friend anymore and not invite me to this wedding.
And like obviously later I would learn more. But yeah, I was definitely. Then the wedding happened and our mutual friend was flabbergasted because our mutual friend was not as close to this girl as I was.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: So the fact that she was invited and I wasn’t was like, oh,
Christa Innis: that’s wild. And especially like you were there so much in the beginning to help her with everything you would think like just having a conversation like, so you, it makes me wonder like what kind of things he said about you to her, to make her like, like to manipulate her brain of being like, oh yeah, she’s not a good friend.
A good friend wouldn’t suggest a prenup because that means she doesn’t think we’re gonna last, or, you know, whatever That was that he’s saying that controlling language of, that’s wild. I mean it’s, it’s just, it sounds like someone that just wanted, like the guy, he just wanted her to like listen to everything he had to say and didn’t want anyone in there empowering her to maybe do go her own way a little bit.
Salma: Right. And so like, ultimately. Especially after I found out that I was not invited to this wedding, like the wedding happened, I was never brought into it. And between the ghosting, like the slow ghosting, you know how people quiet quit their jobs?
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: Like I kind of felt like she was quiet, quitting our friendship.
Like it was just weird. And so I just didn’t try. I thought, you know what? If this is kind of how she sees me as a friend, or this is where I stand with her, there’s just no point. And obviously, like more recently, so this happened in my late twenties, so I feel like, you know, obviously COVID made me feel like my twenties were so long ago because COVID made everything feel much longer like that time period.
But so 20, 25 last year, I basically got this text message from her. And like I obviously don’t delete people’s phone numbers off my phone. I know some people have different policies, but I see that and I’m like, okay, this is like. I have not talked to this person in now six years ish. Like it was a long time.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: And so I get that text message and I’m like, nothing could be good. Like she is not reaching out to me because something good is going on in her life. Mm-hmm. And so I basically say like, she’s like, can we get on a call? I if you’re too busy, no problem, blah, blah, blah. I was like, no, we can get on a call.
I was nosy. I wanted to know what she was like. Like
Christa Innis: I need to know. Yes. Gimme the tea.
Salma: From a purely like maybe selfish perspective, I kind of had to know like why she would, because I had to take a lot for her to get there.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. That’s what I was thinking. To have ghosted someone knowing you were in the wrong when you did that you’ve never communicated, to then have to like put your tail between your legs and be like, Hey, can we talk?
Salma: I mean, it was. I felt validated that she knew that there was a possibility that I would still leave that door open. Like that made me feel like kind of good about what I put out there. But then at the same time, I obviously was a little guarded when she called. And so during that phone call I find out that he, like the marriage has not been good.
They have had these two children at this point. She has tried her very best to do anything and everything to try to stay in the marriage because she was like, not like a super traditional, but she came from like kind of a, you know, her parents were still together, her siblings were still with their spouses.
Like she came from something where I think there was like the shame around just saying like, this has been right. And so at that point, the divorce had not been filed yet. She just wanted to know what her options were from a purely legal standpoint. I think what troubled me the most is I’m trying to have basic conversations with her about, okay, like what are roughly the expenses of the household?
Do you know what roughly he brings in salary wise? And the inability to answer any of those questions with any sort of certainty was really disheartening. Like, how did we end up here where you don’t have any control of the finances and you don’t actually know all the user’s names and passwords on all of the accounts, and you are now put in a position that it is hard to protect what you don’t know.
It is hard to, and ultimately in that situation, I told her, look, there is a, I said, why do you think that this is leading to divorce? And she just said his behavior is in like, I wanna keep trying, but I don’t, I don’t feel good about it. Um. Ultimately he was the one who filed for divorce against her
Christa Innis: wild.
The guy that doesn’t believe in divorce or were never getting a divorce. Mm-hmm.
Salma: He filed against, like, not against her, it’s not an against, but he filed for divorce to not be married to her anymore. And so those proceedings were very tough because he was self-employed. So there’s no W2 employer that you can call.
Christa Innis: Right.
Salma: Uh, she didn’t have any, he had done a really good job of moving money around, putting money in family members’ names and I was
Christa Innis: actually made,
Salma: yeah. So I mean, that was kind of a little bit of a, I mean, the divorce process was just kind of a nightmare because she just didn’t have any real good grip.
And I know people think it’s crazy that I helped her, but honestly, at some point you start to feel really sorry for somebody.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: Like. I’m not saying what she did to me was okay, but I also recognize that, um, she unfortunately had to learn that lesson the hard way.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: Uh, and so I just kind of went ahead and started to share that story because, you know, you see all the little trends going on in social media and everybody’s like, he, he ha ha like, I am marrying this man who is gonna be my provider and take care of me, and I don’t need to know how to pay the mortgage and I don’t need to know.
And I always like, I hate that trend.
Christa Innis: Yes. It hurts me.
Salma: So, yeah. I mean, we’re like casual now. Me and her, like acquaintances at this point, like after I helped her, like our friendship was never gonna be where it was.
Christa Innis: Right.
Salma: There were different ways that she could have handled that falling out. And, and I mean, I act really tough and vague, but like was I very hurt when I’m looking at these Instagram videos of my mutual friend and she’s at this wedding and
Christa Innis: mm-hmm.
Salma: I think I’m gonna be part of this and I’m not, because I said did something I think was seemingly innocent.
Christa Innis: Right. So,
Salma: and,
Christa Innis: and it shows that like your gut instincts about this guy were right. And it’s like, and even if they were still happily married, that’s you looking out for your friend. Like, I would never, I don’t get taking that so personally that like, oh my God, this friend wants us to break up.
That’s a friend that’s looking out and, you know, trying to help like protect. Did she say on the phone ever, like, after this call, like, any apology or like, sorry, I know things are weird between us, or like, did she say anything that like kind of made her like seem that she was apologetic at all?
Salma: Oh, absolutely.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: That was the only reason. I mean, I felt sorry for her, but like the only reason I was so willing to walk her through it and try to help her and try to put her in a position where she wasn’t getting completely railroaded was because she kind of led with, how embarrassing is this? Like mm-hmm. I am so, so sorry.
And she goes, I understand this apology doesn’t seem authentic because I need something now. Or like, but I am like truly, truly, and I believe she’s sorry. And like to me I needed just some accountability. I don’t think had she not apologized, I would have been willing to help her.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: Just because to me, like if you don’t, if you don’t see with how what you did to me was like not super messed up and like, I don’t know how to help you or I don’t want to help you, but she was very apologetic.
She just said, she said, you know, I know that this isn’t a good. But at the time, I so badly wanted to end up with him and I wanted to him to feel like I respected and listened to his opinion. And I know that that was, I mean, unfortunately for her too, I think during the marriage he played this card a lot.
So I think she got out of that marriage and realized her entire village had been turned to the ground for the most part.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: So that is a very hard place to be, but I think a good place to start if you’ve like, this isn’t the my first rodeo. I’ve seen this before where it hasn’t been, it hasn’t personally impacted me, but I’ve seen in other people’s circles.
And I think the best thing you can do if you end up on the other side of it is just be accountable and make amends. And some people are not gonna be interested in being your friend, rightfully so. But I also think, to me, like me helping her was not a true friendship act. It was more just say, honoring what we had for a very short period of time, or not.
I mean, short period of time, six years, but like Right. Honoring our friendship when it existed in the form that it existed.
Christa Innis: Right.
Salma: And yeah, I don’t know. I mean, her life, I mean, she’s still trying to pick up her situation, but I do think that she’s a good cautionary tale because I do think people sometimes get swept up in these romantic relationships and then make decisions so that when they finally get married, they look around and they realize it’s just thumb in this man.
Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. And I feel like we could go so many directions with, with this conversation, but you brought up a good point about that kind of trend of being like, I don’t know my, you know, what my husband makes, I don’t know the finances, I just kind of go spend what I want. Or maybe you don’t, you hear about that, the, the financial control too, where it’s like they’re, they’re allotted maybe like a.
You know, a couple, a hundred bucks a month or a week or whatever, whatever that looks like. But people don’t even think about out outside of, you know, splitting up whatever. What if your husband passed away? What if something like that happens? I’ve seen stories like that happen recently, where then people, the wives or the woman does not know how to log into a bank account.
They don’t know what money they were making. They don’t know what different accounts they have. And so financial control like can hurt in so many ways. Um, and I’ve seen so many trending stories now where women come on later and they’re like. Yeah, my husband of 20 years was having an affair and he made all the money and I have nothing to show for because he wanted me to be a stay at home mom.
And again, this is nothing against stay at home moms. If that’s your passion and that’s something that you’ve wanted to do, your choice, no one anyone else’s, that’s great and I fully support it. But even being a stay at home mom, you need to be know about finances. You need to be. 50 50. He needs to be like, and this could probably come from a financial advisor, but like, I think that they should be paying you, they should be paying you for what you’re doing, whether that’s a weekly paycheck or a monthly paycheck and like actually like write you out.
Um, I feel like Tori Dunlap, who I had on the podcast was talking about that too, on something, but like, you are technically like allotted the same money. And so if he’s controlling everything, and especially this guy sounds like he knew it was coming, so he’s like, I’m gonna hide where money is going. So she can’t see it and she can’t take any of it.
Then he’s more still looking at you as like a housekeeper. You know, he’s not really looking at you as a partner. Um, so that’s when, that’s something I’m like so passionate about too. I’m like, women need to be involved in the finances or the stay-at-home parent needs to be involved in finances just as much as the working or the out of house, you know, parent, um, or partner because.
Anything can happen, any life altering thing can happen, whether that’s divorce, death, um, you know, an accident. You know, you never know what that is. Um, like I even heard a story that was on the podcast where, um, a couple they never legally married and the, I think his mom was living with them and he got in a car accident or a motorcycle accident.
So he was in a coma and the mom went and said, well, they’re not legally married. She has no right to see him and like blocked him out. So there’s things like that where they never thought that would happen. So of course, as soon as he was like back to himself and she was like, we’re getting married, like this is gonna be on paper, it’s legal.
Um, so there’s all those things that people just don’t think about. And so I feel like this is something that people should really, you know, look at ahead of time. So what would you recommend someone listening, like let’s say they’re in a similar situation, like your friend pre. Maybe they are engaged right now and she plans to be a stay at home mom or, um, what would you say about like, looking into a prenup or questions to ask yourself?
Be kind before kind of getting to that point.
Salma: It always tell everybody you need a prenup. I don’t care if you’re just starting out. I don’t care if you don’t have, if you feel like you don’t have a lot of assets. Because I think a couple of the things that I’m seeing the most more recently is sports betting has become, has basically exploded, right?
Mm-hmm. You see very well positioned, smart, educated men who get trapped in the sports betting and like these kinds of different things and they basically take all the assets. They keep betting thinking, I can just win it back. I can just win it back. And so I have seen that kind of situation. I’ve seen lots of people where one person is financially like illiterate and ends up putting all this debt on credit cards and then they’re both held accountable if they get divorced.
So I always tell people when you, especially if you’re gonna be a stay at home mom, I do think that there is a little bit of a risk there and people hate when I say that, but it is just a fact of life. There is a little bit of a risk there where I always tell people, like when you’re going in, the prenup doesn’t have to be fancy.
It just has to basically say like, I’m not gonna be responsible for any of your debt. Especially debt that is accumulated in a way that is dissipating the assets. Like you have a shopping problem, you bet all our money away. That way if something happens after you’re married, you’re not on the hook for your partners bad decisions if you need to divorce ’em.
I also tell them like, you need like a brokerage account or like. Basically a retirement account as well, if you can post it. So just agree, I’m gonna put in a thousand dollars into this brokerage account a month for you, depending on how much your partner makes.
Christa Innis: Mm.
Salma: And that way you have money that is growing in the background that you don’t see, you don’t hear about, you don’t talk about outside of making trades.
Right. And then I have seen people build in a, I’m not gonna call it a little allowance because I hate that word. Mm-hmm. But it is basically a salary that it is a bank account where the woman or the man if, if we’re doing the reverse, if this is like a stay at home dad situation, they can like reverse it so that there is a certain percentage of the paycheck that gets put in the separate account.
And it is her do not ask, do not tell account where she can spend that money. And it is like, if there’s something she’s had her eye on and she wants to buy it and he just thinks it’s like a ridiculous purchase, this is her money to kind of do. Whatever, or he, whatever he wants to do with. And I think it’s like a lot of people take that money and they don’t touch it.
Christa Innis: Mm.
Salma: Because I think it is like a little bit of like a safety, but it’s not supposed to be an an account where the kids, you know, the kids’ stuff gets taken out of it or the household expenses get taken out of. So there are just so many things you can put a prenup to just protect yourself financially in a way that, especially if you’re marrying someone who’s self-employed.
I don’t know. I think I probably have PTSD because I had a really complicated case in my twenties with somebody whose husband was a, he was self-employed and she had absolutely no money. And watching the way that that played out through the court system just like broke my little heart because we threw everything we had at it.
But it was just a very complicated situation because everyone’s like, well, I’ll just go hire a forensic accountant. And I’m like, with what money? Who’s gonna pay the $500 an hour for the forensic accountant that you’re talking about? And so I just always tell people like, there are very basic things you can do, and it doesn’t have to be this expensive or lengthy process, but I, you know, if you never get divorced and you live happily ever after and neither of you die anytime soon or get incapacitated, you don’t have to ever use it.
Like
Christa Innis: mm-hmm.
Salma: And with stay at home moms, especially like a prenup is not just if you get divorced, some, the rules of the prenup can apply during the marriage. So you write it out to apply during the marriage. So you are basically getting all of the financial benefits while you’re married so that you don’t have to wait for an event to happen to start getting those financial benefits.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I love it. It’s just like, it’s like planning through everything because. I feel like it had this like negative connotation where it’s like, oh, okay, that means you’re gonna split up. But it’s just, it’s planning and it’s prepping. And like you said, no one goes into a marriage thinking, oh, we’re gonna get divorced.
Oh this is gonna happen. You know, like it’s just planning for it. And I think so many people kind of just go in trusting the man maybe, or whoever they’re gonna marry. Um, like in this situation it’s I very controlling of like, okay, you’re going to, I’m gonna control all this. You’re gonna cook, clean, whatever.
Um, so I think this is a really important conversation because even if ultimately that’s what you want to do, I think you have to be like, okay, well how’s this gonna work best for us? Um, and I think you made a good point too about, um, putting in there about like not paying debts. ’cause there was a story I read, I feel like it was on the podcast now, I can’t remember, but where she didn’t know until after they got married that he had like $40,000 of debt.
From gambling and he was basically like, well, yours is mine and I need you to help me pay it off. And so, you know, you hear those stories and it’s like, again, people always say, it’s not gonna happen to me. They don’t think it’s gonna happen to them, but it does. Um, and so just like planning for that, we’re seeing a lot of women open up about going through a divorce where they least expected it and they were at home for the last 25 years.
Um, so yeah, I think that’s, that’s great advice. Great advice.
Salma: I also, this is really, really just a quick side story. So I’m literally at my apartment and I have my door half open because I am moving like groceries in and out. And this woman who has just moved into my building, she’s in her mid sixties and she’s not the demographic for who lives in this.
This high rise that I live in, right? Like this is not who normally moves in. It’s like mainly like young professionals.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: And so she kind of pokes her head in and she’s like, hi. She’s like being really nice and I’m like, hi. You know, like, what are you doing? I’m trying to, and she just starts like spilling on me, like spilling on me.
And she’s like, yeah, I just got settled into my apartment. I’m trying to get used to like moving from a five bedroom house to a, to a one bedroom apartment. And you know, my daughter just came to visit me and she was baffled and I was like, oh really? Like, you know, I could tell she just like needed to talk to someone and I was just standing there like, okay.
But she was basically, literally in that 10 minutes we were out in the hallway. She’s telling me about how she had been married since she was 21. She is now in her mid sixties. They had three children together. She never worked, did everything for this household. She. Did everything. She thought she was the perfect mom, the perfect parent, the perfect wife.
She would tell me all these like things where she was literally giving her kids all this advice about how to be a good partner. And then her husband very, very suddenly just tells her like, I just fell out of, like fell out of love with you a long time ago. And I was trying to stay for the kids and I don’t wanna stay for the kids anymore.
And I know how selfish that is. And despite the fact of him saying how selfish she was, he was willing to duke it out in court. And so now she’s living in this apartment where she just doesn’t have a lot to, that’s just a bad way to go out when you think this is gonna be your forever person. And so I just think, I see people all the time and nobody gets married thinking.
Oh, we’re gonna get divorced. Mm-hmm.
Christa Innis: Right.
Salma: My husband’s gonna suddenly pass away. You know, like nobody goes into it thinking that. So I think that it should just not be taboo. Like we need to get away from this idea that a prenups indicates anything about your marriage or your future marriage. And we need to start, especially women, I hate to say it, I’m not saying it, that men don’t also get raw deals.
I’m just saying that the majority of the cases where I have seen divorces go wrong, it is always the woman who gets smacked.
Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. I know. I think, and I think we’re seeing more from that older generation kind of coming out and realizing it. Because also in that generation it was more, you know, typical to either get married before college, find your partner in college, get married right away, forgo the, you know.
Job after college, get married, have kids, and become a stay at home mom. That was way more common, I think my parents’ generation, the generation before that. And so I think now that generation, a lot of them are realizing like either like, oh, I didn’t really get to do the things I wanted to do, or I don’t really have, like, something that be was mine.
You know? Like obviously like they had kids and they raised kids and I’m not downplaying that at all. That is very hard work. As, as a mom, I’m a mom myself and I, it’s very hard work, but I just feel like a lot of them, because I’ve talked to um, similar people, like you said, have your neighbor, similar people in my neighborhood.
And like, it wasn’t until like, one is a lady in her eighties in my neighborhood, and it wasn’t until her husband passed away that she started coming out on walks and like meeting other people in the neighborhood. And now she’s literally like this social butterfly. She was like, I didn’t know anybody before he died.
And I was like, oh, like. Why? And then she was like, and he left me all these papers to deal with. I didn’t know how to like go through his stuff. Like she didn’t know like any of their account, like any of this stuff. And a similar situation where like when I started seeing her out on walks, like we would just talk for like an hour because she was just wanted to talk to somebody and now everybody knows who she is.
And I feel like you’re, that was kind of their, the generation of like, you just get married, you stay home with the kids and um, while the partner or the dad gets to go out and kind of do his thing. So I think women now are learning to take a little bit more control, hopefully and learning from stories like the ones you shared, um, because it’s never too late to kinda like take back that control and um, even if it’s something small, but just finding some way to kind of like own it, I would say.
Salma: Yeah. And if anybody’s listening, you can still get a postnuptial agreement in most states, so just look into it. It’s not too late. Just kidding.
Christa Innis: There you go. I love it. Okay, let’s get into. Today’s blind story. Are you still, are you okay on time? I know we’re kind of going a little, a little over.
Salma: Yeah, I’m fine.
Red Light, Green Light: Legal Edition
Christa Innis: Okay. All right. Awesome. So actually before we do that, let’s do a little, uh, red light, green light. These are just little, um, little suggestions. And then based on, based on what it is, let me know if you think it’s a red light or green light. Okay. Paying a large deposit in cash or via Venmo with no paper trail,
Salma: red light,
Christa Innis: uh, verbal agreements with vendors you trust.
Salma: Red light
Christa Innis: hosting a backyard wedding without event insurance.
Salma: Red light,
Christa Innis: allowing guests to bring their own alcohol,
Salma: red light,
Christa Innis: like, uh, tagging vendors while complaining about them.
Salma: Word red light
Christa Innis: recording conversations without consent.
Oh, I think you cut out.
Salma: Oh, I said red light.
Christa Innis: Oh, okay. Yeah. Um, using a generic online prenup, template
Salma: red light.
Christa Innis: I didn’t know that was a thing. Um, assuming the venue is responsible for all guest safety,
Salma: red light.
Christa Innis: All right. Okay. Let’s get into this story. This is from one of the followers I’ve not read yet, so here we go.
Pre-Wedding Tension
Hi. First off, I love your videos. I’ll start with a bit of a backstory so things are easier to understand. I’m from Scotland and my now husband is from England. We met online nine years ago. He’s lived in Scotland with me for eight years, and we’ve been married for two years. We have a 13-year-old son, my son from a previous relationship and a 6-year-old daughter.
On my side of the family. I have a lot of extended relatives, but my immediate family is just my mom, my brother, my half sister from my dad. My dad passed away shortly after my sister was born when I was 12. I’m like getting this family tree like in my head. My husband’s parents are divorced. He has an older brother who’s married and a younger sister who’s married.
Neither of them has kids. His sister lives in Dubai for work and has done so since our daughter was born. Neither siblings has a close relationship with my husband and they don’t really know our kids. Okay. There’s the backstory. My husband had cancer as a child, and then again the year before we got married.
He beat cancer both times after extremely hard battles with treatment during chemo. The second time, he had to go to appointments alone due to COVID restrictions at the hospital, so I couldn’t be there with him after he got all cleared. Just a year before our wedding, he of course called his mom and dad to share the good news.
He also told his mom he would phone his sister the next day as the day as the time difference met. It was 11:00 PM in Dubai, and since she’s a teacher, he assumed that she would be asleep. His mom told her friend who told her daughter, who then texted his sister saying it was great news that my husband had the all clear.
So his sister ended up finding out via friend’s text message, no big deal or so we thought. So then she called my husband in floods of tears saying she was devastated that he didn’t call her personally. He explained that he had fully intended to call the next day. She guilt tripped him, saying how hard it was for her to go through this again after watching him battle cancer as a child for context, during the six months he was undergoing treatment, she only called once to ask how he was doing.
Another time she called her mom while she, while she was visiting us, and asked on speaker phone whether he put on a, asked on speaker phone, whether he put on a lot of weight due to steroids. I heard the entire conversation. She also lied about how she found out. She, he was all in the clear claiming it was her husband who saw it on their dad’s Facebook page.
That wasn’t true. Their dad doesn’t even have her husband on Facebook, and he only posted about it after the phone call. We still have no idea why she lied. That’s odd. Their mom simply said their daughter was just upset because she hadn’t been called first. That’s a bit of the background for the wedding drama that fall.
Okay, now we’re into the wedding drama. Okay. I love when they give like extra details though. ’cause I’m like, I always have so many questions. I’m like, okay, what’s, what’s the background to this disagreement?
Salma: All
Christa Innis: right. Our wedding was planned at a Scottish castle near the Scotland, England border. That sounds amazing.
So everyone attended would need to travel because of this. Most guests booked hotels as the castle had limited rooms. We offered these rooms to close family, family first, including both of my husband’s siblings, both declined. His brother said he’d get a hotel in a nearby village. His sister said that since it was a year before the wedding, she wasn’t sure she would be able to attend due to work, which we understood.
His mom decided to take one of the rooms and talked often about wanting to spend time with our kids since she doesn’t see them much. She mentioned wishing she could babysit them the way her kids babysits her own grandkids. Um, because of this, we asked if she’d like to have the kids stay in her room on the night of the wedding so she could spend extra time with them.
She was thrilled. We booked her a room with an extra bed so the kids could stay with her. At the time our son was 10 and our daughter was four. Our son is autistic and he doesn’t cope well. With too much change, this becomes relevant later. She’s great with all the details. Um, as time went on, we started to finalize menus and food choices for our vendors.
We called his sister to confirm her menu selections and double check that her husband wouldn’t be joining us as he couldn’t get the time off work. During that call, my husband asked whether she booked her flights and accommodations yet since we were now just over a month away from the wedding. She snapped at him saying she couldn’t deal with it herself and didn’t need him checking in on her.
She then said, you should be more effing grateful. I’m coming to your wedding. Jeez. Oh gosh. Okay. I’m glad we got that backstory. ’cause now I can like picture the dynamic. Uh oh. I don’t know if, okay. I think your sound keeps cutting out.
Salma: Oh, sorry. I just said yikes.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Um, at that point, my husband simply said goodbye and ended the call.
A week later, his mom was on the phone with him discussing wedding plans, and mentioned how stressed his sister was about traveling for the wedding. We reminded her that we’d always told his sister, we completely understood if she couldn’t make it due to distance costs or work, they’re probably like, please just don’t come at this point.
Salma: Basically,
Christa Innis: yeah, save us the drama. His mom then casually said, money wasn’t the issue because his aunt was paying for his sister’s plane ticket as part of a wedding gift to us. Okay. So that my husband could have his sister at his big day. That does not feel like a wedding gift to the couple.
Salma: No. I was like, that’s very odd.
It’s extremely odd.
Christa Innis: I know. I’d be like pay for the couple’s room or their flight. What his aunt couldn’t attend herself as she lives in Australia and had work commitments. Then his mom added that. she’d been thinking his sister could just squeeze into her room with the kids.
So we said no, we didn’t think that was a good idea. A the room was for three people. There was one double bed that his mom and our daughter were going to share and a single bed for our son. Our kids don’t really know his sister very well, and our son would be uncomfortable sharing a room with someone he doesn’t know.
Well, this went back and forth for a few days. His sister was crying on the phone to their mom saying it was unfair and nasty for us to say She doesn’t know the kids. Didn’t they already offer the room? And she said, no.
Salma: Yes. I don’t understand. I’m getting like anxiety for these people
Christa Innis: I know like. I always feel bad for the couple, like having to deal with this kind of drama before their wedding.
Like they should be excited counting it on the days and this would make me not want it to happen because you’re gonna have to deal with someone like this.
Salma: I just would want let that person to not come.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Be like, can you not pay for her to come? Please be that. Make that our gift. Just don’t pay. His mom kept asking for her to be squeezed in.
Eventually we made the decision to ask my mom if she could have the kids the night of the wedding instead, since it seemed like his sister was going to try to stay in that room anyway, so we told his mom she could have her daughter stay in the room with her, but the kids would be in a different room.
Wedding Weekend and Tantrum Blowups
She was upset, but said, okay, fast forward past a few other bits and pieces and it’s now the wedding day. Everything goes well and it seems like everyone’s having a good time. In Scotland, we have a tradition of ending parties, especially weddings, with a song, a dance called. I might pronounce this wrong.
Lock Lamond. Lamond Lomond. My husband had told his family he was so excited to include them in this tradition and that it would be the final song of the night. The song before that, don’t look back in anger as he’s from Manchester. The DJ announced it was time for the final two songs and asked everyone to come to the dance floor.
We were gathering everyone. When we saw his sister and mom heading upstairs. My husband went over and said, why are you going? Where are you going? Quick, it’s time for the last dances. His sister said she was tired from traveling and needed to go to bed since their mom was driving them. She needed to sleep too.
It was roughly 11:45 PM My husband said, come on mom. I told you this was important to me. Just two more songs. His sister Huffed and stormed upstairs. I’m like, seen this as like a toddler like, like she’s a grown adult. It
Salma: doesn’t sound like a grown adult.
Christa Innis: No. Like what is this? His mom reluctantly came back to the dance floor, we danced, said good night to everyone and headed to bed the next morning at breakfast.
Everyone was sitting quietly talking about the night before and laughing about sore heads. Then my sister-in-law came to into the breakfast hall and said to their mom, come on, will you leave now? Or we’ll be late. I need to get to the airport. My mother-in-law got up halfway through breakfast, went upstairs to get her things.
So now she can’t even enjoy the wedding ’cause the sister has to go. my husband and I went out to the reception area and said goodbye. His sister was at the car crying. His mom coldly said, goodbye Mr. Lafferty. Have a nice life. Wait, what? My husband took my last name. So she said it like in a rude way.
Ooh, that’s awesome. Her husband took her last name. That’s cool. Um. Goodbye. Mr. Lafferty. Have a nice life. What did they do to the mom? That’s so weird.
Salma: Oh no. That is very
Christa Innis: strange.
Salma: Oh,
Christa Innis: he said, what? What does that mean? Am I not going to see you? She scuffed and walked off. Two seconds later, she came running back in because she had forgotten the bouquet of flowers we’d given her the night before.
She went upstairs to get them on her way back down. My husband asked, what’s wrong with her? Why is she crying? His mom replied in a nasty tone, oh, work it out for yourself. What is going on with this family? That’s completely dampen? That completely dampened our wedding week. My husband was devastated. He wouldn’t look at videos or his phone or photos.
He didn’t want to read the cards. He just wanted to understand why they acted that way. So now they’re making it about themselves like they can’t even enjoy this moment because mom and sister are having a freak breakout. I don’t even know.
Salma: I like hate that for her.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Like all that’s
Salma: like a bad way to go.
Like that’s like a bad way to start your marriage or like your wedding.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Because now everything’s just like, your memories are gonna be all about how they acted on this day. They had to make it about themselves, the sister. It’s like every little thing the sister had a complaint about, she would’ve made it so much better if she just didn’t come.
Aftermath, Excuses, and Takeaways
A week later. He called his mom his first call since the wedding. She said the reason his sister was so upset was because he didn’t make her feel special enough at the wedding. What was he supposed to have a sister brother dance? Like?
Salma: I have no idea that, that’s so cringe.
Christa Innis: Yeah, girl. Like you can’t let your brother have his day with his wife.
Salma: It just kinda gives me the ick too. It’s like, why are you so obsessed with your brother and like you don’t like him giving women attention? Like
Christa Innis: mm-hmm.
Salma: That’s just really, really strange to me.
Christa Innis: Yes. It’s like there’s like a jealousy or insecurity that like he’s spending time with his wife and not you. I just read a similar story like this where the sisters like demanded to be in the brother’s wedding and they’re like, we’re actually not having people in our wedding.
We’re gonna have each have one person. And they like showed up in these matching like bridesmaid style dresses and they had the DJ announce them because they couldn’t stand not being a part of the wedding. And I’m just like, I cannot imagine being so self-important at someone else’s wedding.
Salma: Honestly.
That’s really embarrassing too.
Christa Innis: Yes.
Salma: To just like take that upon yourself like, gosh.
Christa Innis: Also like what DJ is gonna be like, oh yeah, I’ll add that into the announcement. I’d be like, I did not get that from the bride and groom, so no, I will not be announcing.
Salma: Absolutely. So
Christa Innis: weird. Um, okay, so she said, bearing in mind A, it wasn’t her wedding B, she had had her own wedding four years earlier.
So she’s already, she was married and had her own day. C she’s a 30-year-old woman, not a child. ’cause yeah, I keep picturing like a 5-year-old or four or 5-year-old, like stomping up the stairs. Um. Apparently she couldn’t understand why she didn’t get a special mention or role in our wedding. My brother walked me down the aisle and made a speech because he was standing in for our dad.
My, my sister was a junior bridesmaid. We didn’t even know if his sister would be attending until about three months before the wedding, at her wedding. Neither my husband nor I had any special role. I wasn’t a bridesmaid and he wasn’t a groomsman, so why? Even more so. Why is she expecting? My God, it’s wild.
In my husband’s speech, he thanked everyone for traveling. He didn’t single anyone out. He thanked his mom and dad and my mom and that was it. then his mom said his sister was upset about her seating arrangement. She claimed she was seated at a table with no one she knew. In reality, we seated her next to a lifelong family, friend and neighbor.
All our tables were mixed family groups. His mom then claimed his sister didn’t know this family friend, his friend very well. Even though during photos when the photographer said, okay, all the groom’s family, his sister shouted for this friend to join the photo because she’s family. So ridiculous. Like some people will just find anything to complain about.
Plus like even when I’ve gone to weddings where I’m set at a table where I don’t really know anyone, you’re there for such a short amount of time. Grab a drink, eat your food, and make conversation like I’m such an like,
Salma: hang out.
Christa Innis: Yeah. It’s not that hard. Like I’m an introvert and I can, I can make myself do it.
And then you’re on the dance floor and you can see your family and friends. Like, I just don’t get, when people make someone else’s wedding about themselves, it’s so, such odd behavior.
Salma: This sort of took it like a step too far.
Christa Innis: Yeah. And then like the crying off on like the side. And constantly like having people ask like, oh, what’s wrong with them?
Not saying anything until like months later when the mom has to speak for you. Like
Salma: they’re nicer than I am. I would’ve been saying some stuff, like, it would not have been just like a, oh, what did we do? It would’ve been like, uh, you got to go.
Christa Innis: Yeah. You are killing the vibe right now. Can you please just go to your room?
You’re gonna act like a toddler. Go. Um, I, during that phone call, his mom kept repeating how incredibly hurt and upset his sister was. My husband said, well, I’m upset too. It was my wedding day and you’ve both tried to make it about her. His mom replied, well, she’s really upset. Like, I just hear it. The story has changed at least 10 times since.
First it was that she didn’t feel special, then it was that she was worried about missing her flight because of traffic. And then it was that she was tired from traveling and then it was that she wasn’t upset at all. The story has changed so much that honestly I feel crazy sometimes. And this is only a snippet of their behavior over the years.
Thanks for the videos you shared. They really helped me feel not so crazy knowing other people deal with complicated family drama too. Oh my gosh. So now they have to deal with those people, their marriage like, and that I feel like pulls people apart. Like if, if they don’t actually like set their intentions of like, okay, it’s us versus everybody else, I think that’s where it can get complicated.
’cause you see, like, you’ll see like the husband get pulled in a lot of the stories like, oh, well your, your wife said this to me. Or you know, some, you hear stories like that happen all the time, but the fact that they’re changing their story, I think they just wanna feel like the victim.
Salma: I think that’s like a problem though.
’cause I feel like that’s not gonna stop. It’s gonna just be every year it’s gonna be something. It’s gonna be, quite honestly, like I think the bride is being very gracious by trying to be like patient and let her husband handle it.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: But I just think that would get old very fast.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Like everything,
Salma: just like laced the boundaries.
Christa Innis: Yes. Everything I feel like would, would feel like a chore. It’d be like, okay, are we gonna get together for Thanksgiving or something? It’d be like, sister’s gonna be like, well, I don’t know. You know, like the back and forth. Well, does anyone want me there? You know? And that’s just like exhausting to be around someone like that.
So I feel like the only way is to have really limited contact, which I think it sounds like they don’t all live close by each other, so maybe it is limited. And then just not dealing with the mom’s like victim. Talk about the sister. Because I think that’s why the sister learns to behave that way because the mom puts up with it and is like, oh, your sister.
And then she’s like, oh yeah, I am the victim.
Salma: Uh, I think that’s like a lot of enabling, I don’t know.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: I just like feel like weddings where you’re like, people spend so much time and money and energy into having that one day and then for people to just not be able to get it together for such a short period of time drives me crazy.
’cause I’m like
Christa Innis: mm-hmm.
Salma: Who knew his sister was gonna be like enemy number one while this is all going on. I just think that’s like hard, especially based on everything she shared with us. It doesn’t really seem like I could maybe understand if at her wedding four years ago they did something unforgivable and like ruined her wedding or something and now this was like a revenge plot of some sort.
But it just kind of sounds like this other woman is very entitled and so I don’t know how you fix that.
Christa Innis: Right. I feel like it’s like too far, too gone because what are they saying? It’s, it started after, um, the sister not getting the call right. About his cancer, but they said even while he had cancer, she called like once to ask how he was doing.
So it, it’s again, it’s like that, that woe is me kind of attitude of like, even if they had, she had been the first person to call, right? When he got the news, she would’ve found some reason. Oh, I wasn’t at the meeting, I was at the appointment. You know, whatever. ’cause there’s just some people that are gonna, that want to feel like the victim.
You
Salma: do well with those people.
Christa Innis: Yeah. You gotta, you gotta, like you said, strict boundaries with those kind of people. ’cause they just, they lay, they are like, they’re like the gray cloud in a room because there’s always something you can always tell when they’re gonna complain about something or, or, um, make something about that.
So. I am sorry. I hope, I hope you guys are at least on the same page, this bride that sent this in. As long as, I feel like as long as you and your partner are on the same page about boundaries and what you will and will not stand for, I think that will make it easier. Um, and limited, limited contact for sure.
Um, okay. I like to end these with or end these episodes with confessions that people send me on Instagram. Um, so this week we asked anything you want to get off your chest vent, rant, or share something that happened recently. Okay. This person said, I never want to be a bridesmaid again.
Salma: I think a lot of us probably feel that way.
Christa Innis: It’s a lot. I mean, I feel like it’s a, it’s a lot of work. Like I feel like I got all my bridesmaid time out before I got married myself. Like I haven’t been a bridesmaid since I was married, but I didn’t like nine times, nine or 10 times and. It was a lot. It’s a lot in your twenties and thirties and it’s just, it’s like a full-time job when you’re, if you’re like an active one, you don’t have to be, but I got lucky.
But I’ve, I’ve heard obviously terrible like bridezilla stories where like they expect you to spend so much money and like, like you’re, you should revolve around them, you know, and the world stops when, when they’re getting married and it’s just like, I can understand that. That’s, that’d be hard. Um, okay.
This person says, I’m so angry that I have zero relationship with my older brother since our parents died. I think that
Salma: happens actually.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I think that happens to a lot of siblings because I think a lot of times it’s like the parents are what holds them together maybe. And if it was already kind of like struggling, but yeah.
That’s, that’s really sad. Um, I wish I’d spent more time to plan something a bit more special for my wedding. Um, okay. This is a three part, one mother in, mother-in-law and I are hosting a gender reveal for brother-in-law and wife. Wife keeps making expensive last minute changes instead of trusting the mother-in-law.
And I had everything under control. Turns out it’s wife’s mom being the issue and has been strong arming brother-in-law and wife to do things her way or not at all. That’s unfortunately very common and that’s when you need to have those strict boundaries. And just being like, because it’s, because I feel like when you start allowing a little bit to happen with someone like that, like you’re like, okay, yeah, we’ll make this one change.
’cause you said it, it’s like a, what is it? Give an inch. They’ll take a mile or whatever. Someone like that they know. They know who they can easily manipulate. I see it all the time.
Salma: It’s like frustrating though.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: May I never be a mother like that one day.
Christa Innis: Right. I know. It’s like people like that. I wonder if they like, can see that they’re being that way.
I don’t know. It’s, yeah. Some people just can’t let go or let someone else like take the lead of something ’cause they think they’re just gonna do it better. All right, last one. My mother-in-law got both of my kids 30 plus gifts. Each asked after we asked her to tone it down this year. So frustrated. I’m guessing for the holidays or for Christmas or something, or maybe their birthdays.
That’s wild. As a parent, I would, that would overwhelm me. I can’t even imagine. That’s
Salma: just much stuff.
Christa Innis: Yeah. And
Salma: stuff you have to keep in your house.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. As my child’s parent. I don’t get her more than like two things for like a birthday and then maybe a couple more, like for a holiday. I like, I, I get very overwhelmed by stuff.
So 30 gifts that I don’t even know, I can’t even comprehend. 30 gifts. That’s too,
Salma: they must have money. Money,
Christa Innis: yeah. Well and then I feel like then when kids get so much stuff, they don’t value the things they do have.
Salma: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Because they’re like, oh, I’m just gonna get more stuff. Or they use it once and it goes in the garbage.
So like, I hate that personally. So I’m very like, we’re gonna get something that you’re gonna use multiple ways and like for many years. ’cause I, I hate just like, I hate just things sitting around that you’re just not gonna use.
Salma: Agree.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Alright, well thanks for hanging out with me. Thanks for coming on this, this week.
it was so nice meeting you. And, um. I feel like your story is a very good cautionary tale for many
Salma: thanks for hosting me. I had fun. I mean, this has been like a fun way to spend my, I guess it’s evening at this point, but yeah. Fun way to spend my evening and, um, I think you put out a lot of good content for people to just kind of take a pause and like that woman said, like, not feel alone because if you feel like you’re the only person dealing with crazy people, you’re not.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Salma: So I think there’s something about feeling validated.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: And feeling like, okay, this is not unique. I’m not the only person dealing with this. But yeah. This has been fun. Thank you so much for inviting me.
Christa Innis: Yeah, I know. It’s wild. ’cause like when I first started sharing like a couple, like stories and stuff, like, just like stuff I’d heard over the years from like weddings, I never knew how, how wild and how many stories people had to share about this kind of thing.
Um, like. It just like blows my mind. So I think it’s a great, like safe space to be able to share and like talk to other people, set stronger boundaries and all that. Um, so for anyone listening, can you tell everyone where they can follow you on social media, um, and where kind of anything fun you’re working on, what they can, what they can expect from your content, all that good stuff?
Salma: Yeah, so I am primarily only on one. I know this is like not what everybody does, but I’m only on, basically the only thing I use is TikTok and I am Selma. Your big or Selma your lawyer. Big sis. Sorry. But yes, that is the only account I really use. I do have an Instagram, but it is like purely just family and people from college, like friends.
So it’s like very private. Right. I always feel bad because a lot of people from TikTok migrate over there.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: And I’m like, I’m sorry, I wanna keep this private. Um, and it’s not like that personal, it’s just that like some of the people that. I talk about that have given me permission, aren’t on my Instagram, and I just wanna like, protect their privacy.
Yes. Um, but I do like a lot of like attorney talk. I do a lot of my own story times that most of ’em are not about weddings, not my content. Um, but yeah, it’s just kind of, I had like a while there I, where I was posting a lot about Indianapolis, um, but then people started accusing me of being paid by the city for tourism.
I mean really, I was just like, I thought this was what everybody did. Like if I like a place, I’m gonna shout it out.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: But yeah, that’s primarily, it’s like fun for me. TikTok I think is a lot of fun.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Salma: Um, and so that is the only mode of social media I use because it’s the only one that brings me joy.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I love it. I feel like tiktoks like a fun, easy way to like start making content too. ’cause it’s just like, I don’t know. At least for me, I felt like a lot of the pressure was off. Like Instagram is like. I dunno the idea of Instagram still, like I, I post on there now, but like when I first started years ago, it’s just like that, like picture perfect.
Like everything is very like Instagram models and I’m like, I don’t know about that. But now I think it’s changing a little bit, but tiktoks definitely more, less, less pressure like that. Well, awesome. Like I said, it was so nice meeting you and I loved your story. I think it’s really important for more people to hear that kinda story.
So I’m hoping this reaches new ears and they can find and follow your content and learn more of your awesome advice.
Salma: Perfect. Thank you so much.
Christa Innis: Thank you.
Jealous Sister Behavior, Wedding Day Blowups, and a Last-Minute Family Switch-Up
My new book Here Comes the Drama: A Ferris and Sloan Story is live!
Family reconciliation, your wedding plans back on track… and just a little more drama to go with it. Again.
This week, we read part two of a wedding submission about the sister’s lies, manipulation, and boundary-crossing behavior being finally exposed, forcing a reckoning that flips the entire family dynamic. Just when everything is out in the open and a reset feels possible, the story refuses to end there.
As I dive into what happens next, the stress doesn’t slow down, it multiplies. The mother-in-law pulls back, and support starts to feel conditional at best. Every step forward comes with something new to figure out, until the ex-wife’s eight demands take a turn just days before the wedding.
Also, turns out the drama had more to say. Our Book 2, Drama Ever After is in the works!
Listen to this episode for unexpected turns, family drama, and a wedding that really can’t catch a break.
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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments
- Living Under One Roof – Staying with family during planning brings tension right back to the surface, proving that proximity doesn’t fix problems.
- The Wedding Dilemma: Blocked & Uninvited – A listener gets removed from a bachelorette group chat, blocked, and uninvited after already paying for the wedding.
- The Sister Still Doesn’t Get It – Even after everything is exposed, accountability is shaky, and the behavior doesn’t fully stop.
- Mother-in-Law Switch-Up – Support starts to shift, energy changes, and what once felt helpful begins to feel uncertain.
- The Bridal Shower Letdown – Plans that were once promised quietly fall through, leaving the bride to adjust expectations in real time.
- Money, But Make It Stressful – Loans, shifting budgets, and financial pullbacks turn support into another layer of pressure.
- Flight Plans in Flux – Travel expectations don’t align, adding tension to an already overloaded timeline.
- Court Date Before “I Do” – Just one day before the wedding, a legal situation involving the ex-wife raises the stakes and threatens the entire plan.
- The Drama Doesn’t Peak, It Piles – Instead of one big explosion, this story builds layer by layer, proving some wedding chaos doesn’t end, it evolves.
Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode
- “When people show you who they are, believe them. ”
- “ Never loan money you aren’t prepared to give away. ”
- “People don’t communicate, and they just take what one person says instead of actually confronting the situation. It could have all been avoided.”
- “ I appreciate when people are forward with how they feel and communicating because passive aggression creates more problems.”
- “Every relationship is so different and nuanced. It’s hard to know.”
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Christa Innis: Hey guys. Welcome back to another episode of Here Comes The Drama. We are the podcast that dives into the chaos, hilarity, and unforgettable moments when it comes to weddings, events, and beyond. I’m your host, Christa Innis, today’s episode is a solo one. So we are just gonna dive right in. Starting off, I’m gonna read the review of the week.
This is from Toria. I look forward to all of the drama. It’s my guilty pleasure. Thank you for your kind review. If you guys are loving the podcast, please help me out by leaving a review, sharing with a friend. It just helps the word. Get out to more people and more people listening to these crazy and wild stories.
just a quick little update. I know I haven’t talked about it in a while, so I thought I would just share here. I’m currently working on book number two. if you are watching the current skit, which as I’m recording this, I’m on part 31 of the Bride Brielle skit. I’m recording this like a month ahead of time when you actually will listen to it.
So who’s to say if the, if this skit will still be going on, or if I took a pause and did something else. But, as I’m doing this skit, some of you guys are commenting like, can this be your next book? I love this story. This story’s so interesting. so it led me to. Realize I need to share more about the current book that I’m working on.
So in case you’re new here, book number one was, here Comes the Drama they focus on the characters. Ferris and Sloan from a skit that I started, gosh, we’re talking like two summers ago now. It’s wild. and the book came out Middle of June last year. and it was a great success.
It’s been so much fun sharing and seeing it all come to life. My goal has always been to write a book, so because you guys loved it so much, that book covered most of season one of the Ferris and Sloan story. I say most of in season one-ish, because once I took it onto paper, there’s a lot of things. I moved around, new dialogue added.
I made sure it just like. Flowed better, if that makes sense. because there’s some things when it as did it as a skit, it just didn’t really make sense. so the next book I’m working on is Drama Ever After. This is book number two. That kind of covers season two-ish. This one we’re really diving into the details, the background of each person, adding way more scenes that were never in the skits because as a one person.
Actor, skit, creator. There’s a lot I can’t do. Okay. A lot. So my imagination runs wild with a lot of these scenes and, let’s just say this book really takes it to a whole new level. I have my proof back, my manuscript back from my literary agent, and I’m currently going through all of my detailed edits, more of the, Developmental edits. I’m learning all the phrases as I go. So yes, so there is a book too in the works. I don’t have details on when it’ll be released or what that’s looking like yet. Um, we’re kind of going through a different process for this one than the first one. lots of exciting things ahead.
Not saying that the bride, Brielle won’t be a book, but the Ferris and Sloan storyline is my first priority. And then we’ll kind of see from there. If you have not yet read, here comes the drama, a Ferris and Sloan story. Grab your copy today. You can get it on Amazon, Cobo, Barnes and Noble. there’s a few others I’m not thinking of.
We have all the links below. You guys can check it out. and tag me on social media when you get it at. Hey Krista Ennis. I love seeing like where you guys are reading the book, your thoughts on the book. Create a cool video, I’ll reshare it. it’s just means so much to me to see it out there in the world and, hear what you guys think.
Wedding Dilemma: Blocked, Uninvited, and Owed Money
Let’s get into this week’s wedding dilemma. So these are different situations you guys are currently going through. Many of you guys DM them to me. You can also email it to me at hello@kristaennis.com and they’re kind of situations you’re going through currently and you just want some advice on again, I always wanna start this by saying I’m no expert, so this is just my own personal advice. Take it or leave it. Okay. This is what she says. They say, I should say, so I worked for this woman while she was planning her wedding. When I first started my job, she asked if I would go to her hen as we call the bachelorette party here.
and later I received a full wedding invitation, which I was happy to accept. I paid money toward accommodation for the hen party was about to pay for the other activities when I realized I had been removed from the group chat and blocked. I was also uninvited from the wedding. Am I okay to go to my former employer’s place of work and demand my money back?
Whoa. Okay. So I feel like there’s a lot missing from the story too, because it says you worked with a woman that was planning her wedding when you started a job. She had asked if you wanted to go at the end, you’re saying your former employer’s place of work. So somewhere in between that, I don’t know how long it was, you stopped working with this person because originally I’m thinking like.
doesn’t she know she’s gonna see you at work every day? Like, isn’t that gonna be awkward? So it sounds like to me, maybe you don’t work there anymore. I don’t know. Maybe you left, maybe you lost your job. I’m not sure the situation maybe you don’t talk to this person anymore. They don’t talk to you.
I feel like it’s very complicated when it comes to coworkers, right? Like. When you see someone every day, you’re like, these are my best friends. I would die for these people. I’ve had coworkers like that where I’m just like, you see them all the time, so you make plans with them.
You, wanna do things outside of work with them. You really get to know people that you work with. there were people that, like when I was getting married I worked with, that I invited to my bachelorette that if I wasn’t working with them, I’m like, would I have invited them? I don’t know.
Then I invited them all to my wedding. Now I’m trying to put myself in your shoes and being like, okay, if I stopped working somewhere or if someone had stopped working with me during that, it would really have to depend on my own personal relationship to that person. Now, if it’s a weird situation where maybe you guys ended on bad terms and other coworkers are going to this, and she’s like, I don’t know, it’s like,
Weird situation now. So I think she shouldn’t come to the wedding because it’s gonna be like a coworker table. Sure. But the bride should still be communicating with you. The fact that you paid is the biggest issue I’m seeing. They should be contacting you and being like, Hey, so I know things are kind of weird since we don’t work together anymore.
And I just think it would be better if maybe you just didn’t come to the bachelorette. every relationship is so different and nuanced. It’s hard to know. again, I feel like a lot is missing from this to know what happened no matter what, they should be giving you your money back.
I don’t also know what kind of place you worked at. Is it a place with customers? Is it a place where you’re in an office and secluded from people? Is it a place that allows people to show up? Is it a place with high security like, Let’s see. It says you’re blocked from the group chat. I would try to contact the bride directly if she has not blocked you.
It says the group chat blocked you, which this is so weird. that’s what makes me think like there’s some kind of weird work thing where they’re like, okay, you can’t socialize with people outside of work that don’t work here. believe me guys, I’ve worked for bosses before that. When you.
You leave the company or when someone else gets fired or leaves the company, you have to sign an NDA. It’s crazy. they’re like, you can’t socialize with people outside of work, which is bonkers and so weird. so it makes me wonder if it’s something weird like that.
Either way, at the end of the day, because you paid towards this, they should be communicating with you and paying you back. The whole thing about you being removed from the group chat and blocked with no one communicating to you, any of this is so weird. also, how do you know you were uninvited from the wedding?
Did she communicate this to you? Did she say, Hey, since you’re fired, fired, I’m assuming or since you quit our work? Since I don’t see you anymore, I really don’t think you should come to the wedding or did something else happen that told you you were uninvited from the wedding? So, like I said, I feel like a lot’s missing here.
so based on what I do know, I would say contact the bride if you have no way of contacting anybody. depending on your place of work, I think it would be maybe okay just to, um, call the place of work and say like, Hey, can I get my money back for this? This is so hard because I just don’t get the, whole group chat blocking you.
But also can I add something else to this? Sorry guys. I’m kind of all over with this one ’cause this is just a very odd situation. She said she starts working for this woman. So wait, I’m reading this differently now. The woman is the boss. So she started working for this girl, this woman, when she was planning her wedding.
when you first started, she asked that you wanna go to her he party. I think that’s a little fishy. I’m not inviting someone I just met, let alone someone that works for me to my hen party. Or my bachelorette. So this sounds to me like she didn’t have the funds for something. Ooh, guys, now I’m getting really into like conspiracy about this.
Okay? This woman wanted a really great bachelorette party, right? She was like, I don’t have enough money to pay for the things I want. I’m gonna hire somebody and invite her right away. Tell her the cost of it. Get her in this group chat. Then I’m going to fire her when I decide I don’t want her to come, or when I decide that, we’ve had enough of her, because that’s so odd to me that the first day or one of the first few weeks when she, this person that sent this in, started this job, the boss is like, Hey, do you wanna come to my bachelorette party?
Like what? I would never invite someone I just met to my bachelorette party. So this sounds to me like it was a setup from the beginning and they wanted to get to your money. So going back to your former employer’s place of work, because she was your boss, it was her wedding then. Yeah, I would, I don’t know how much you paid.
But it says you paid towards the accommodation, and other activities. Oh, you were about to pay for the act,other activities. So we don’t know how much you paid, but you paid her. This was your I think I would go back. If they blocked you, I’d be going back. If not, you might have take other legal action again, depending how much it is.
cause chances are someone like this, is not their first rodeo. All right guys. I hope that was great advice. I know I was kind of all over the place, but that’s wild. I reread it and I’m like, wait, this woman is the boss and she invited her employee the first day, that’s her first week or whatever.
That’s very odd to me. So she is like a fake like buddy. Buddy. Like, oh my God, you should come to my party and then talks about you behind your back. We all know people like that. All right. If you guys have a wedding dilemma or any kind of dilemma you wanna send me and get my, UN expertise, please send it my way.
Would You Rather: Wedding Drama Edition
You can DM me on Instagram at Hey Christa Innis, or email me at hello@kristaennis.com. All right, before we get to this week’s story. Let’s do a quick little, would you rather, would you rather your mom hate your partner or your mother-in-law openly criticize you? Oh, I don’t like either of those. I don’t like either.
if I had to pick one,
God, this is hard. usually, I’m like, okay, I know what I’m gonna do, but
why does my mom hate my partner? I think I would say that one. ‘ cause in my mind I’m like, okay, I can either change that, like maybe she has her own judgments and I can change it, or I just have to create a boundary. But for a mother-in-law to openly criticize. I guess it’s like hate from either side, so it’s either like I get hate or my partner gets hate.
I don’t know. I feel like you’d have more control with your own mom maybe. I don’t know. That one’s hard. Would you rather deal with a passive aggressive comment or full blown confrontations?
Full blown confrontation. I’d rather have a confrontation. Me as someone that hates confrontation.
I’m like, sweating. And there’s not even a confrontation happening. I think the older I get, I appreciate when people are forward with how they feel and they’re communicating because passive aggression, it creates more problems I think because as someone like me that always thinks people don’t like them, so we could get along.
Spiel about this, but I will literally hang out with best friends of mine and on my drive home I’m like, oh my gosh, they hate me. They literally hate me. And it could literally be at the dinner or wherever I’m at, at their house. And we’re literally having a one-on-one talk and they’re like, oh, I’m so grateful for you.
You’re my friend. And I’m literally like, oh my gosh. What did I say? Like, they probably hate me. This is the last time we’re hanging out and I don’t know what that is. Someone can tell me. so yeah, let’s do the confrontation. Would you rather your parents overshare your business or your in-laws pry nonstop?
I would say pry. I’d rather have someone pry and I come off as maybe they’re interested in learning more. I don’t know. Would you rather your family guilt trip you or your partner’s family give you the silent treatment? About what? Mm, I think I’m gonna go, gosh, um, silent treatment because that just, I mean, if someone’s giving a silent treatment, I don’t have time to care.
Would you rather have parents who want control or in-laws who disappear unless they need something?
Probably these are really hard this week. Maybe parents who want control, I don’t know. Uh, okay. Would you rather your parents demand guest list control or your in-laws dictate traditions? I’m a bad one to ask these questions to because like my wedding, like. I was very like, this is what I want. And no one really said like, I wa I was like laid back, but also like I knew what things I did and didn’t want.
Um, like when it came to the actual like wedding and ceremony itself, like other things, I was laid back. Like someone could have shown up in the white dress and I probably wouldn’t have cared. Um, I would say more so. Guest control? No, I would say dictate traditions maybe. So like if something was really important to their family, I think I would more so do that than someone demand guest list control, because no one’s gonna invite someone I don’t want in my wedding.
Would you rather have financial help that comes with opinions or zero help and zero support? I would rather have financial help that comes with opinions. Um, because like I’ve said before, if you. Have mutual respect for your parents or your in-laws. That’s mutual respect. There should no be no problem with opinions.
It’s when people hang it over your head and say, I’m gonna control your day now because I gave you money, or I have a right to change things because I gave you money. If they’re gonna give opinions, I think, yeah, it’s everybody’s. It can be everybody’s day. Let’s all celebrate together and enjoy the day for all of us.
Last one. Would you rather be judged for how you spend money or how you don’t? Ooh, I think what would hurt more would be judged for how I spend money. Because it’d be like, well, if it matters to me, why does it matter? So I would rather be judged for how I don’t spend money and be like, okay, well I’m a good saver.
Wedding Submission: Part Two Begins—The Sister’s Lies Come Out
I dunno. Or like, oh, you should spend money on this. Okay, well I don’t want to. Here’s this week’s story submission, and now there’s a little backlog to this. Backlog might be the wrong word, but we’re gonna throw it in there anyway. So two weeks ago I had a Cliff Notes gal on the episode and um, it ended with the person saying, this was just part one.
There’s so much more to come. Let me know when you’re ready for a part two. And we were both like, oh my gosh, we need to get a part two. So right away we emailed the person and said, would you like to send us more to this story for us to read on the podcast? Um. So she sent us, she sent us a lot more, you guys.
So we’re gonna throw in a little clip here from last week, or I’m sorry, from two weeks ago, so you guys can kinda get caught up quickly. If you do not have time, I do. First, I recommend if you do not listen to it yet, go back to Cliffnotes Gal episode from two weeks ago. Listen to this story. But if you do not have time, we’re gonna throw in a quick clip here just to kind of refresh your memory and then we’ll get into this part.
Okay. Hopefully that jogged your guys’ memory a little bit. I know right before I was recording this, I kind of like read through it again. Um, it was a wild one. So let’s get into her update and, uh, what happened since then? It is, it’s long, so. Before we get into it, guys, go grab yourself a drink. Get comfy.
Get your comfy on. Um, like, I don’t even have a bra on right now, so do what you gotta do to get comfy. Um, I got my energy drink.
All right. Here we go. After the phone call from my parents, I felt deflated and unsupported. My mother-in-law was very understanding and said it was okay. We could have a wedding here at home, but I really wanted my granddad, who was almost 90 to be present on my wedding day. We decided to pause the wedding planning for a bit and take a break despite pressure from my mother and sister to provide a date.
We focused on normal life. Communication with my parents became less and less because I didn’t feel like calling them as much or flying out to see them. My mother-in-law started planning my bridal shower and my partner and I decided not to do bachelor and bachelorette parties. Oh, that makes me so sad.
It’s like when someone deflates your balloon, like balloon like that, you just stop going to them for things. And it sounds like all the things that she wanted to do, she’s just like, I just don’t care anymore. Because she was excited and then they were just like, yeah, like every little thing was just a critique and control.
In May, however, my granddad was involved in a car accident. Even though he wasn’t hurt, it made me realize time wasn’t something we had. Thankfully, my partner understood and we decided to get married in my home country so my granddad could be there. We chose a date and started on the invitations. We picked a Saturday so no one could use the excuse of needing time off work or not being able to attend.
I picked up the phone and called my parents. My mom answered, and as soon as I said we were getting married in Belgium, my home, she became excited and started sharing many ideas. So they were like kind of weird, like not really talking, and then she’s like, Hey, we’re getting married again. And the mom’s like, hoo, like, okay.
My dad still said he would not walk me down the aisle, but he would be there on my wedding day. Why that’s so weird. Why would he not walk her down the aisle? I still don’t understand that. We gave them a rough outline of our ideas and what we wanted for the day. My mom seemed okay with our suggestions, but also had a lot of things she wanted.
Time flew by and in August we flew to Belgium to start wedding preparations. The venue we chose didn’t include caterers, decorations, or anything else. Just a building in the middle of the woods, a massive outdoor fire pit and enough sleeping spaces for guests traveling overseas. That sounds like an awesome venue.
I love that. It’s all built into one. I always say like. Having a wedding where like everything is on one site is so nice. Like those are my favorite to attend. I know it’s not always feasible or near you or always works, but when it can work, it’s like it’s bomb. Like, you can walk everywhere, take a bus, you know, whatever.
It’s, it’s, it’s really nice. All right. We stay with my parents and you could feel the tension from everything that had happened. The one strong bond we shared felt fragile. For the first two days, we avoided wedding talk and tried to reconnect. However, I noticed my sister had no sense of boundaries.
Well, yeah, we learned that the last time when she came onto your fiance. I still, if your sister does that, like how do you respond? I don’t think I would want them near my partner. That’s weird. She obviously has no boundaries. She kept coming downstairs late at night wearing nothing but a see-through dressing gown, clearly positioning herself so my partner would see her.
Okay, this, this is where we have to be like I’m distancing myself and I get it. You want to like make things right? Sounds like she really wants everything to be fine and work with them, but. When people show you who they are, believe them. Right? That’s what we’re saying. Um, I wouldn’t be staying with them.
I wouldn’t trust someone like that. Something snapped in me on day three. I raised my voice and told her to back off and show some respect. My partner felt uncomfortable and let me handle it, but when my sister started lashing out at me, he stepped in and told her to stop treating me that way. My dad, who had only caught half the story, came down on both of us, like a wall of bricks.
I told my partner to go upstairs and start packing our bags. I told my family I would never stay with them again, and that they were all uninvited from the wedding and my life. Oh, so this was her thing, like not her thing, but she, this was the moment where she was like, that’s it. I’m not taking any more bullshit from you guys.
We’re done. Upstairs. I could hear my dad shouting at my sister and the door slamming, but I was beyond angry. After about 30 minutes, we came downstairs with our bags packed, ready to leave. My partner had left a few things in the garden, so he kissed me and went to grab them. That’s when my mom pulled, that’s when my mom pulled me aside and my dad followed my partner into the garden.
Family Reconciliation and a Sudden Shift
What. I had a long conversation with my mom and found out that since our visit the year before, my sister had been causing most of the arguments. She’s older than me, has no partner and felt it was unfair that I was getting married. First, she told my parents lies about my partner, claiming he went through their belongings when they weren’t looking, stared at her too much, shouted at her, and was rude.
I showed my mom proof that none of that was true, including countless texts where I asked my sister to be respectful and considerate of my partner’s nocturnal epilepsy. So they’re just believing the sister until this moment. All these negative things, and then they’re finally realizing that the sister’s just starting all this drama.
She had started making extremely loud noises. As soon as she heard him waking up, which can trigger seizures. I had to ask her daily to stop. By the time I finished talking with my mom, I heard my dad and my partner calmly talking in the garden. When my partner saw my face, he motioned for me to come outside.
My dad then admitted all the false accusations my sister had made and apologized for not asking me whether they were true. Wow. My dad has MS. And diabetes and his health has been declining over the past few years. The stress was too much for him, and avoiding conflict felt easier. our presence, increased tension, which my sister had framed as coming from us rather than her.
And that made him push me away. My dad and I have always been very close, something my sister has been deeply jealous of. She bonded more with our mom as she isn’t interested in fast cars or getting her hands dirty like my dad and I are. My dad is also extremely protective of me because I left my home country after an abusive relationship that I barely escaped because of that.
My sister planting seeds. My current partner was aggressive, triggered alarm bells for him. Yes, they saw my partner angry in the mornings after my sister deliberately pushed his EP epilepsy to the limit. No, he cannot control his mood. When his epilepsy is triggered, he becomes a shell of himself until the she, until the seizure actively settles.
We all sat down and finally realized my sister was causing all the issues for no reason. I asked where she was and my dad said that he had sent her out so we could figure out how to fix things. As soon as I said I would never come back, my dad realized he didn’t wanna lose me. We agreed my sister could return to the house, but she had to stop the lies and the drama.
I obviously, I don’t know what’s gonna happen, but. My thought from just this is no matter what, you need to stay somewhere on your own. The sister’s not gonna change with one conversation. And I’m not saying you can’t give her the opportunity, but she has crossed the line so many times that I think space is gonna be the best thing.
Like get your own place. You can see them for breakfast or whatever, see ’em at certain times. But you do not all need to be staying together at this point. When she came back, she acted like nothing had happened. Smiling and saying hello as if we were best friends. My partner ignored her completely. I stood there uncomfortable.
My dad broke the silence by asking her why she lied and why she tried to trigger my partner’s epilepsy. She denied everything until my partner laid out the proof. She began stuttering. She complained it was unfair. She couldn’t do her normal morning routines while we were there. That being quiet for an hour after my partner woke up wasn’t realistic.
My partner explained again that it was only for an hour and that he sat in the garden afterward. She only had to wait about 10 minutes for him to go outside. She claimed we had never explained it clearly many times, or we had many times.
See, I feel like this is all stemming from, I mean, obviously there’s like a lot of. There’s a lot of anger and jealousy it feels like, but I feel like this is now like being even more vibrant because they’re staying together in this house, like all these like morning routines and stuff, just get your own place.
She then shifted blame onto me saying I was dad’s favorite, that I was younger and I shouldn’t be getting married first. That caused all the arguments and that. I caused all the arguments and that I never spent time with her. So jealousy again, I don’t get the age thing. I don’t think it really matters who gets married first.
That all comes from insecurity. If you are feeling bad about yourself, every little thing like that’s gonna bother you.
After about 10 minutes, both my partner and my dad shouted enough. My partner told her not to speak to him until she could show me respect. My dad told her that if she couldn’t behave respectfully, she was the one that needed to leave and stay at her own place. My sister owns her own home, but mostly lives with my parents because it’s cheaper.
Utilities, food, laundry, everything. But if she already owns her own home, like isn’t she paying for that house? So why does it matter if it’s cheaper living with your parents? I dunno. Okay. We agreed to stay out of each other’s way as much as possible. That night, we went out for dinner privately to make amends.
The evening. Turned out surprisingly well, my dad and my partner bonded. My dad agreed to walk me down the aisle and my mom offered to pay for a church wedding where she sang in the choir. This just shows again, passive aggressive comments we’re talking about, like this just shows when one little thing just boils and boils and boils and people don’t communicate and they just take like what one person said instead of actually like confronting the situation.
It could have all been avoided. Now they’re all like, Woohoo, we’re so excited. You’re getting married. Let’s do this. Oh, walk you down the aisle. Like what? Let’s just talk people. Holy cow. With the venue and church sorted out, and my parents on board, we avoided discussing the dress. Over the next few days, we planned decorations and flowers.
Mother-in-Law Pullback, Money Stress, and Travel Drama
My mom’s friend, a professional photographer, gifted us our wedding photos. Other family friends volunteered to help decorate the venue. Things finally felt calmer. However, my mother-in-law grew quiet and distant. Oh, okay. So now she’s not happy. Maybe because they’re involved again. When we told her we made amends and that my sister caused the issues, she simply said, Hmm.
Weeks passed quickly with calls from my parents as we finalized details for our December 20th wedding In early October, I asked my mother-in-law about my bridal shower. She told me there wouldn’t be one. What is going on with all these people? Does no one wanna see this poor bride happy? I feel like now the mother-in-law is mad that the family is back and involved because maybe she’s not needed as much.
But then I would be like, all right, I’m gonna make this the best bridal shower ever because she deserves it. What she said once we chose, we once, she said once we chose Belgium for the wedding, she couldn’t afford both and canceled the plans, but offered leftover wine and sparkling wine for my partner’s sister, sister’s shower.
Okay. So again, I understand if, if someone’s moving their wedding to Belgium, that is gonna be very expensive, especially if you’re staying there, you have to do flight accommodations. That can definitely get expensive. However, if the mother-in-law said, I’m hosting your bridal shower, don’t worry about it.
I’m gonna do everything for it. If all of a sudden she can’t afford it anymore, she needs to again communicate and talk to the bride and say like, Hey, well now that you moved it to Belgium, I don’t have the budget for it. I can’t afford it. Because then at that point the bride could be like, you know what, let me um, ask my parents, or maybe some friends can chip in or maybe I can chip in, or maybe we don’t need a shower.
Maybe let’s just do like a luncheon. Let’s just, you know, whatever they can communicate, like what is going on with people. Gosh, okay. I was disappointed, but understood. She said she couldn’t afford flights or food and felt excluded because some conversations in the group chat were in Dutch. I explained, I translated everything.
She dismissed it saying she felt like an ornament. So she’s saying she can’t afford the shower. Well, she’s saying she couldn’t afford both, but now she’s saying she can’t even afford the flights to Belgium. So she might not be able to afford either to involve her more. I suggested she decorate the Christmas tree and help hang lights at the venue.
She seemed happier. So can she. Can she go to Belgium? I’m so confused. Two days later, she invited me for tea alone. She asked if I could help pay for her flights. I loaned her 300 euro, clearly stating I needed it back by December.
Uh, okay. I mean, there’s a famous, there’s like a not famous quote. There’s a quote about like, lending money, and it’s basically like, don’t expect it back. I’m gonna, I have to find it. Like, it’s basically like, okay, hold on.
Here it is. Never loan money you aren’t prepared to give away. So basically like don’t expect it back. It’s saying like it’s. Common wisdom because like if you desperately need the money, you shouldn’t be giving it to somebody. So if you’re like, okay, I can loan them $50 because if I don’t get it back, it’s not the end of the world.
It’s not the end of the world. I always said that twice. Um, like, yes, we should have all intentions that someone’s gonna pay us back and we should hope that, but don’t lend money that you can’t afford to not have. Right. Um. You aren’t prepared to give away, right? So I feel like this is coming a bad way. Um, okay.
I booked flights that day and didn’t tell my partner right away. He wasn’t thrilled about it, but accepted it. So I’m guessing she booked her flight later that day, later during my partner’s birthday, his family revealed they hadn’t booked flights and shortened their stay. Despite us already booking accommodations, paying for food, and hosting everyone, they complained about hair and makeup.
I explained we were over budget and couldn’t afford more. My partner supported me. I’m living the partner’s support in this. It sounds like he’s very involved and is like behind her. He’s honored by her side, making sure they’re on the same page, which I feel like is. It’s a problem when they’re not right and, and they’re catering to everybody else.
Ex-Wife’s Eight Demands
So it’s good that they’re on the same page. Um, but I feel like things are gonna get worse then things got worse. His ex-wife, whoa, we’re getting more details here. Refused to sign, I’m sorry. Refused to release his son’s passport unless we met a list of eight demands. So he has a son and an ex-wife. I, I don’t think that was said before, unless I’m forgetting.
Wow. Okay. Eight demands. We compromised where we could, but she refused. We had to seek emergency legal action with a court date set for December 16th, the day before our flight. Oh my gosh. I mean. Sharing a child with someone has like that you’re no longer with co-parenting has gotta be super hard. I’ve seen things, I’ve heard stories like, so we don’t know their situation.
We don’t know why they got a divorce, why, you know, she doesn’t want the son to go. Maybe there’s other issues, but also like as a, as a mother, I’m like. Letting your child go overseas with another family, that’s gotta be a little scary too. So, trying to listen from all points of views here, um, that’s gotta be a lot.
It says, amid court prep decorations arrived, alterations were happening, and my partner’s custom suit arrived wrong. Thankfully, it was fixed in time, 20 days before the wedding. My mother-in-law called to say she wouldn’t repay the loan until January. I needed that money for nails and hair. Told you, I told you.
Especially before your wedding, if you need the money for it, you can’t be lending people money. And again, obviously everything’s hindsight’s 2020. Um, but yeah, oh my gosh, with no extra funds. I used Box D and Stick on Nails. My partner made the best of it as he always does, guys. And that’s where it ends.
That was like a novel in itself. Um, maybe there’s more because we need to know about the wedding and what happened with that, but I just feel like there’s a lot of like immature people in this story. So we went from like her family to being like terrible to the mother-in-law, being awesome, to now the family’s involved and the mother-in-law doesn’t want anything to do with her.
People need to set their egos aside and work together to make the bride and groom’s day like. Right. Um, obviously there’s a lot to this story that we don’t know. We got a lot of information, but there’s still a lot missing. Like, I don’t know anything about this ex-wife and the son, um, or the, her relationship with the mother-in-law with the ex-wife.
Gosh, this is, this is a lot to, to figure out. I’m glad, like I said, I’m glad that the partner has been on your, like, on your side and he’s supporting you. Um, but man, this is, um, so, so it sounds like his family did come. What’s the sister’s situation? How do we feel about that? Because the, to me, the sister crossed the line so many times, I don’t, I don’t think a conversation is gonna make that better.
The fact that she tried hitting on your fiance is just super weird to me, and I don’t think I could let that go. Um. So, yeah, I don’t know. Tell me what you guys think about this. Like I said, we got a lot, but we also are missing a lot. I’m glad we got the continuation. But how did the wedding go? I mean, it must have happened this last December.
Did the son get to come? Is there gonna be more? I don’t know. All right. Maybe we should reach out to her for part three. I’m telling you, you know, it’s funny, like. When I started doing the podcast, it was because I was getting so many of your guys’ stories and I had like, at that time I think I had like 300 or something stories and I was like, I gotta put these on the podcast because the skits start becoming like more of like, what’s up here?
I just kinda like create them. Um, and so I was like, I need to a podcast where I can just read them, where I can read these real stories. I was looking recently, I’ve got like, I think it said like 700. Unused ones in the document, maybe even more. I’ve not had the time to like scroll through all of them. So you guys never disappoint.
You’ve got some wild stories. If you are listening and you have a wild story to share, please submit it. There’s a link below. You can submit your stories. Um, we’re always looking for new stories. We use them for our YouTube channel podcast, live reactions. Um. And then I also started a new thing on social media called comment section confessions.
So when you guys reply in the comments on things, sometimes we’ll reshare those as well because it’s wild. It’s a wild world out there guys. And um, all we can do is laugh sometimes because it’s, it’s crazy to think that these things are actually happening. Um, and. I feel like a lot of times when people write in these stories, they, it helps them kind of release something and it’s almost like therapeutic to be able to share that.
Alright, well that was, that was a long one. All right. As always, like to end these with some confessions, so here we go. This question we asked you guys was, what wedding cost do you regret the most? I have to think about if I have one that I regret the most. Honestly, like we were pretty, frugal is the wrong word, but I was pretty clean, clear about how I wanted to spend money for the wedding and stuff.
Um, maybe favors, ’cause everyone’s, everyone always says like, you don’t really need favors. Um, but like, we didn’t do like an expensive plated dinner. We did a taco bar, we did pizza for after. We did pizza for our rehearsal dinner. Um, we got married in off season on a Friday, so we saved money on the venue that way.
We did open bar, but we didn’t do like the top package. So, um, that was probably the most expensive, but to me that was worth it. I think that was probably the most expensive. Um, but yeah, let’s see what people say. Okay. This person says a live band. Ooh. I’m curious why I, I’ve been to some weddings with live bands and they were, they were amazing.
I didn’t know live bands could perform like that. ’cause I had always thought like, oh, DJ over live band. But I’ve been to like two or three weddings where there was a live band and they could sing any song. It was so good. Actually it was at like a women’s camp last summer. I can’t think of the name of the band.
I can’t remember it, but I think, I know they were from Pittsburgh. Um, because they played the office theme song, but they could play like any song. I felt like it was a live, like, like there was a live dj. Like they were so good. Um, okay, this person said custom napkins. Yeah, that seems like ACOs we don’t need, um, this person says.
Letting my husband get talked into purchasing a second suit seven years, and the second suit hasn’t been used. I’m wondering if that was like at your suit, like try-on or whatever, and they’re like, here, get a second one for half off, or whatever that happens. That happens. I’ve heard of a lot of people doing like a lot more, so brides doing like multiple outfits now.
For me, I was like, I got this beautiful dress. It’s comfortable. I’m wearing it the whole time. Um, I’ve seen now like some women have up to three outfits and this is no shame if that’s your thing, if you’re like a fashion girl and you saw multiple things and that’s in your budget, you go like, go on with yourself.
Like, I think that’s great. For me that would be like a waste. ’cause I’m like, I’m spending money on this dress, I wanna wear it. Um, this person says alcohol. Um, this person says photo booth that were only used by less than 10 guests. I’ve noticed that with photo booths, like they’re fun, but I feel like they’ve kind of gone down since like.
I feel like weddings that I went to in like the early, like 2010s that I had, photo booth, those were like amazing. Those were so fun. And every once in a while it’s like fun to come home with like the photo thing, but they’re, they’re expensive. I, I don’t, I never looked at pricing for them, but I know there’re a few thousand dollars and people still get photographers on top of that.
So that’s, that can be a lot. All right guys. That’s all I have for this week. Thanks for hanging out with me. Um, again, if you guys love this episode, please do me a favor and share it with a friend. Leave me a review, tag me on your socials. Um, I would love to hear what you guys are thinking about the podcast.
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One wedding reception, a packed dance floor… and one sister-in-law committed to the corner.
What begins as a joyful celebration slowly turns tense when a sister-in-law spends most of the night sitting it out. From pre-wedding tension to a reception spent sulking, the mood becomes hard to ignore.
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- The Drink That Sparked It All – A simple pre-wedding drink invitation gets declined due to wedding prep, becomes the wedding tension.
- Rupture and Repair Parenting – Brianna explains why today’s parenting focuses on helping kids communicate their feelings and work through conflict.
- Reception Buzzkill – While everyone else celebrates, the sister-in-law spends most of the reception sulking in the corner, refusing to join the party.
- The Designated Driver Excuse – Weeks later, the real explanation finally surfaces: she’d been asked to be the designated driver and let it ruin the entire weekend.
- Adult Tantrums Explained – Brianna breaks down how insecurity and poor communication can turn into attention-seeking behavior in adulthood.
- Family Roles Disrupted – Christa and Brianna discuss how weddings can trigger tension when siblings struggle with changing family dynamics.
- Choosing Peace Over Drama – After repeated conflict, the couple ultimately steps back from the relationship rather than continue accommodating the behavior.
Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode
- “I think consistency to me is more important than finding a niche.” – Brianna
- “Everything’s political, sorry.” – Brianna
- “You don’t have to have something major going on in your life to go to therapy.” – Brianna
- “It’s so important to teach your children how to say how they feel.” – Brianna
- “Some conditions are better left in the past” – Brianna
- “If you’re not enjoying what you’re doing or what you’re creating, it’s gonna seem so much more of a hassle.” – Christa Innis
- “Newsflash, everything is political.” – Christa Innis
- “You don’t want people at your wedding that you don’t want.” –Christa Innis
- “The beauty of social media is like the connection.” – Christa Innis
- “I always think like with these mother-in-law stories or the sister stories, you are just creating more of a barrier.” – Christa Innis
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Christa Innis: Hi Brianna. Thank you for coming on.
Brianna: Yes, thank you. This is my first podcast I’ve ever done, so it’s an honor.
Christa Innis: Oh, I’m so excited. I love when people tell me that. ’cause like I feel like it’s this like big scary thing, but then like once you do it you’re just like, oh, we’re just hanging out. Like it’s just like a Yeah, totally.
Brianna: I know. Well, and I was like, okay. She seems like cool, personable, like I felt more relaxed. So this is a good intro for me.
Christa Innis: Good, good. Yeah, I know. I’m like, I feel like it takes a lot of people back to like 2020 when we all were like on Zoom calls, even like for family and stuff. I remember like doing Christmas one year, my dad had COVID, so we just all were like on Zoom for Christmas and just like hanging out that way.
Yeah, because that was the time.
Brianna: Yes. So true.
Therapist, Creator, Mom of Five Boys
Christa Innis: So for anyone that is not familiar with you or hasn’t seen your content, can you just tell us a little bit about you and what you do?
Brianna: Sure. So, I originally started like making content over on TikTok, and kind of like found my people over there. I do it a lot of, motherhood, millennial related type content, comedy stuff.
I also do, like more political content, especially in regards to like being a mom. so I made my way over to Instagram eventually and I found like some great people over here too. So it’s been really fun. I have five kids, all boys, so it’s like chaotic household, but really fun.
they’re all under, let’s see, my oldest is 10, so they’re all pretty close together, but Crazy house. And then I’m also a therapist, so I have a private practice that I do part-time and. Yeah, I have a very busy full life.
Christa Innis: Wow. When they say like, moms, you can like do it all. You are literally doing it.
All that. It’s amazing.
Brianna: I’m trying, I’m trying.
Christa Innis: Did I hear correctly that you’re a perinatal therapist, was that
Brianna: Yeah. It’s
Christa Innis: perinatal.
Brianna: Okay. Basically like perinatal mental health, so all postpartum, but also like before having kids, so any, Person who, is trying to conceive, is postpartum, is pregnant.
but also like if people have gone through like losses, like I’ll see them as clients as well. So that’s like my specialization, I would say. I basically say I see teen girls and moms and everything in between. So women in general is kind of, my thing and, who I love seeing. And well, I had a really great experience and a really not great experience as a teenager seeing a counselor.
And the good one made me want to be a therapist. ’cause I was like, oh, this could actually be really helpful. So I really love seeing teen girls now ’cause I know it’s, it’s a rough time, especially now to be a teen girl. So it’s nice to, yeah. No. Be a safe place for them.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I feel like that’s so powerful.
I was just talking to someone about how I feel like the stigma with therapy has changed so much. also that’s with like millennials, like growing up and being like, no, this is good. We need to talk about our feelings. cause I feel like when we were kids it was like, oh, therapy. Like that’s scary. But now I feel like we’re all like,
Brianna: yeah,
Christa Innis: I remember in college setting up for therapy ’cause I was like, ah.
I need to talk to somebody.
Brianna: We need this.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Brianna: Yes, yes. It’s so different than it used to be. And even like the town I live in is, it’s not that small, but it’s like small town vibes. Like if you go to the grocery store, you’re probably gonna see someone, you know? That’s just kind of how it goes. so I always tell my clients like, Hey, you know, if I see you, then you’re welcome to say hi to me.
But I can’t say hi to you first because of confidentiality. And I remember when I first started out, I saw, and this still happens, if I see a teen girl, I would’ve never done this as a teen girl. They will see me in public and they’ll be like, that’s my therapist guys. That’s my therapist. Like, no shame.
Amazingly, like I love it so much. And I’m like, wow, that’s so different. Like I think even growing up when I had a therapist, I wasn’t embarrassed necessarily, but I was like, oh, I don’t want someone to think like something is wrong with me. Like, you know, something is wrong with all of us, but it’s so different now in a really cool way.
So I’m hoping as that generation goes into adulthood, we’ll see it even change even more.
Christa Innis: Yeah, I think it’s good with like helping to like process your emotions, help to process like what’s going on in the world, whether it’s like big scale or small scale. and I just love like the conversation around therapy and how like beneficial and helpful it can be.
Brianna: Yes, totally. the tides are changing for sure there, which is really nice and I think it’s good for everybody. You don’t need to have necessarily, like, I mean you can obviously go to therapy for anything, but it can just be daily life that you just want someone to chat with and I think that’s changing, which is really awesome.
Christa Innis: Yeah, that’s really great. So your content, like I feel like you have such a wide range that you talk about in your content. Like you said you talk about like motherhood, politics, therapy, comedy. And so how do you kind of decide, like do you plan out your content? Do you just decide like what’s like heavy on your heart that day?
you kind of like lean into what makes sense for you, I guess?
Brianna: Sure. So I think consistency to me is more important than like finding a niche necessarily. Like I know some people, they make content only about one thing and their audience comes to them for that.
but I think I realized that I was posting different types of content and people liked what I was offering, so I was like, okay, if I’m there, they like it. that’s good. Right. Which helps me a lot because I have a lot of different, like hats I wear, I guess. So it, feels less limiting to me that I can be like, okay, and talk about being a mom.
I can talk about, you know, whatever my thrifting finds. I can talk about politics. I do have some planning, like I did a little series like a podcast if like women podcasted, like men. So that was a little bit more intentional that I was like, okay, let me kinda like write this.
Out. But I feel like the videos that have gotten the most traction or like that people really like are the ones that I just have an idea and I’m like, I’m just gonna record this real quick and see what people think. so that’s worked for me. Obviously there has to be some intentionality there, but I kind of just share whatever pops into my head.
And personally I know it’s like you want your content to be shared to people. Like you want people to see it, you want people to appreciate it. And like that translates to likes and shares and all that. And that’s important, but I don’t really care that much about that. Like, I’m like, I just wanna put what I like out there and if someone else likes it, that’s awesome.
I’m not really like offended if it’s like a video doesn’t go well. I’m like, well I thought it was funny, so that’s fine.
Christa Innis: Yeah. And I think, honestly, I feel like that’s like the secret to it because if you’re not enjoying what you’re doing or what you’re creating, it’s gonna seem so much more of a hassle or like work than totally putting out joy or putting out important information to people.
Brianna: yeah.
Christa Innis: Because you know, you see that where people like really struggle with like what they’re putting out there because it’s like they have to put on this like show for everybody. And it’s like, that can be a lot for sure.
Brianna: I mean obviously there are times, if it is your job or you’re treating it like a job, any job can get monotonous, right?
Or like. Tiring or whatever. And that, I think that’s really normal. But I think I’ve had some people, and I feel like I’m still a pretty small creator in general, but I’ve had people be like, oh, I like wanna grow my page. Like, what should I do? What should I make? And I’m like, I think genuinely people can tell if you’re being authentic.
And that doesn’t mean you have to like share your deepest, darkest secrets all the time. But it means like, I think people can tell when you’re putting on a show and when your heart’s not in it, even if it’s just a silly video, like I think it does come across. So I’m like, if you just, honestly, the cheesiest, right?
You just like be yourself and act like who you truly are. I think eventually the people who will love your content will find you. And sometimes it takes a while, but they’ll find you, I think.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I do some like social media, like, consulting on the side. I’ve worked in social media and marketing for years now, and I always feel like people get very caught up in like, they’re like, oh, well it’s doing well, but how do I go viral?
How do I go viral? Yeah. How do I boom? And I’m like. Just be consistent and the right people will find you. Because if right now you, have a hundred followers, just picture a hundred people in a room. That’s amazing. They’re excited about it.
Brianna: Yes.
Content, Politics, and the Internet
Christa Innis: So you’re always like, wait, I wanna look out there. Then the people in front of you and be like, well, they don’t care about me.
So it’s very easy to be like, how do I go viral?
Brianna: Mm-hmm. And that’s funny. I mean, in my experience, I don’t know about you, but I feel like there’s this difference, right between like, okay, Yahoo, A video is doing so well and that’s awesome, obviously, and you’re like, oh, I’m getting, people really care about this.
They like what I’m putting out, going viral can be very stressful and overwhelming in my experience. you wanna get, you know, people attention to what you’re making. But I think when things really pop off, it’s like you actually are getting people normally to your page that probably aren’t.
Normally there. And so that doesn’t always translate to like, actually that feels nice. ’cause it’s like, oh, you get everybody on the internet looking at your stuff. so I feel like slow and steady, even though it can be really difficult, to be like, oh, some people are just like, their follower account is exploding, or they’re getting all these deals or whatever, you know, whatever you’re trying to get.
I think the slow and steady thing is that’s how you get people who really care about what you’re posting and it feels more like a community and I think that’s what most people trying to build their pages are looking for. But I get that we’re such a immediate gratification society. It’s hard to hold onto that sometimes.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I’m sure too with like posting more political stuff too, like people are very like I’m sure you get trolls and like anytime I post something political, I get people messaging me or I get people commenting like, don’t go political, don’t do this. And I’m like. Newsflash, everything is political.
Brianna: Everything’s political, sorry.
Christa Innis: Yeah. were you always posting political or were you kind of like adding it in more and more, and then how was the response from your audience initially?
Brianna: so I would say I posted political related content early enough. I guess you would say that it wasn’t like a surprise.
Like I think that’s what’s hard for some people is that it’s not maybe that they didn’t care about politics, but they never really posted about it before. And then when they started doing that, they have people who didn’t align with them. And so then those people give them pushback. I mean, I’m trying to think like all through like the presidential election and all that stuff, like I was posting.
So that’s been a while since then. and I think when, a lot of people started being more vocal, because that was a really obviously a big turning point on who was gonna be our president and everything. And, I feel like I’ve definitely gotten more vocal, but it was scary at first. Like people are brutal online.
I think it’s one thing like for someone to not like your content, but listen, how do I say this? Trolls are equal opportunity. Like they can come in all shapes and sizes. Yeah. But I would say it tends to be the men that come from my content and it can be kind of like scary sometimes because they can be like threatening or like just say like really horrible things.
So I feel like this has been the hard part for me, is that when my pages were smaller on like Instagram and TikTok, I would actually get more trolls then I think, because like the algorithm was like figuring out like, where do I send this, person, like, this is mom content, but like, what type of mom am I sending this to?
Or like, this is comedy, but like what type of person is gonna appreciate this? So at the beginning it was actually, I think, harder and there was a time like early last year or like maybe a little over a year ago that I can’t even remember what it was, but like. All of a sudden I got this influx of people being horrible, like horrible.
And was having like a panic attack. I was like, I think I need to quit. I don’t wanna do this anymore. And my husband is like the most chill person on the planet. And so he was like, if you don’t wanna do it, just quit. you can know, you can just block them and move on.
And I was like, oh yeah, I guess I could do that. Right? Like, I guess that’s an option. So I honestly, husband and I are very different, but in that aspect I was like, I’m gonna do whatever my husband would do. And so I just like block people. I try and, you know, I don’t do a ton of like strategy, like social media strategy, but I’m like, I use hashtags that maybe will get people to my page and I just try my best to like ignore the negative stuff.
But I would say it feels like about 90% of what I get feedback wise is positive. So that really does. Help. but I think, you know, people are really brave on the internet to say really hateful things. especially it’s like the faceless profiles, whatever. and I think if it’s like, you know, if someone’s gonna call me a name, just block and move on.
And I think I’ve gotten better at that as time’s gone on, but at first it would kind of take me out. I was like, why are they being so mean? Why are they calling me this? But I’m like, whatever. Thanks for the engagement, I guess.
Christa Innis: I know you have to let it roll. I know. I start kind of telling myself, I’m like, they are a lonely and insecure person or something.
If someone’s gonna come after you online, be a keyboard warrior. Like they’ve got their own issues and I’m just gonna be like, okay. Because yeah, I’d be the same thing. Like, in the beginning it, something would like really affect me and my husband would see it instantly. And while in person, he’s a very chill person.
He’s like, give me their name, let me message them. I’m like, no, it’s why you can’t.
Brianna: Oh yeah. Totally, totally.
Christa Innis: like someone would say something and just like. Pick on me or like if I like replied to something in the way, they didn’t want me to reply, they’d be like, oh wow. Like blah, blah, blah. And they’d come after me for like standing up for myself and yeah.
Yeah. I think that’s the hard thing too about like then I would just start to like bite my tongue and be like, you know what? I’m not gonna even waste my time replying to you.
Brianna: right.
Christa Innis: One time someone, exactly. Someone like said something about a typo on my website and I was like, oh, let me talk to my website designer.
He goes, that’s not a typo. They spelled this wrong. And And I’m like, I’m not gonna even waste my time. But it’s the same guy that will message me anytime I post something political. And he goes, don’t post this. Don’t post this. And I’m. Okay, bye. I don’t care. Jim, from California, wherever from,
Brianna: are you?
Yes. It’s crazy. It’s true. I think the other thing, oh, the thing I was gonna mention, always forget about this is that so when I really started being consistent with making content, my husband and I were both going through like some like deconstruction of religion stuff. So that’s actually when I started being maybe more like vulnerable with my content.
Like, this is what I’m going through personally, or like making videos. And it kind of, the hard part was like deconstruction and the rise of Christian nationalism happened at the same time, very obviously. in some ways that was really difficult because I was like, okay, I’m trying to like sort through these feelings and then it’s showing up in like the real world, not just in my little bubble.
but that’s more what I started posting first. And I feel like it actually, came at a time where I didn’t feel like I had anyone in my, real life besides my husband, but he was, you know, dealing with his own stuff around it that understood. Like what I was going through. Like I was like, I don’t have people around me that know what it is to like leave this community that I’ve had.
And I found ’em online and I was like, oh my gosh. Like it was one of the first times I saw what community I think on social media could be, and it made me feel less alone in that time. And now I feel like sometimes I’m able to offer that with my content to people and I’m like, I know how that feels.
I know you’re like, a lot of people will be like, how do I find like more progressive mom friends? Like, do I know how to tell you that? Not exactly, but I can tell you, even if it’s just online, it will make you feel like not so by yourself out there. So yes, it’s nice.
Christa Innis: That truly is like the beauty of social media is like the connection.
Yeah. with doing this podcast and with just making content, like you meet so many people that you wouldn’t normally meet in real life and that’s what’s so awesome. Like, so just leaning into those positive connections and like having these conversations I think is really, helpful.
Brianna: Yeah, for sure.
Christa Innis: So do you feel like some of the backlash that you have gotten on the messages, do you think it has to do with you being more vocal and opinionated, like as a woman? Or do you feel like, it’s just kinda going back to it’s just trolls being trolls?
Brianna: I think it’s both. it’s hard.
Obviously there’s overlap there, I would say, like I said, a majority of the negative comments I get are from what appears to be conservative men. And I think they don’t agree with my beliefs. And then on top of that, they don’t like that I’m speaking up as a woman. A lot of them will say like, things that come from like a very like traditional, patriarchy filled viewpoint.
Like basically, you’re a woman, you need to shut up type of thing. And I’m like, okay. Like your opinion literally means nothing to me if that’s how you view
Half of the world women. but you know, I have occasionally had pushback from like women or moms. like I said, it’s like few and far between now because I think the people that choose to follow me, they’re like, this is why I’m following you is because we align.
I think it’s, people who are coming from very conservative or I mean, like, living in Washington is different than people. Like this is so bad. This guy really attacked me on the internet and all of his stuff was out there and I was like, where, what is this guy doing? And he like lived in a southern state and his page, I was like, oh, this guy is everything the opposite.
and he’s in a community that it seemed like that was very different from me. And I’m like, we’re not going to align here. And I’m also not gonna argue with a, a stranger on the internet. But that’s why I think it’s been easier to kind of brush that stuff off is because it’s not a person that. Like in real life I would ever associate with, and they don’t have the same values as me.
So it’s, I am like, okay, if you’re a person who calls me out and it’s like, normally we align and you’re like, what’s this about? Then a hundred percent let’s have a dialogue about it. But I would say that rarely happens. It’s usually, and it’s always on Facebook. Always on Facebook. The meanest old, grumpy men are on Facebook and they really hate me over there.
But that’s okay.
Christa Innis: I agree with that. I always say there’s a different, completely different audience on Facebook and it’s, it’s scary sometimes ’cause they can be really supportive and then all of sudden it’s like, bam. And they’re gonna get you.
Brianna: Yes. And there’s some really great people, like there are, there are great people, but I, I have a friend who she said over on Facebook, just post and ghost.
And now that’s what I do now. Like I rarely check comments over there, which I feel bad because there are some really kind supportive people. But I’m like, okay, follow me on Instagram or TikTok or something because Facebook, that one, it’s. It is dark, it’s a dark timeline over there. So sometimes I just have to go post it and walk away and, and kind of get the community aspect on other platforms.
Christa Innis: Yeah. And especially as a therapist, I feel like mental health is like so important and so like, so that’s like boundaries of like, I’m protecting myself, protecting my boundaries.
Brianna: Yes, exactly.
Mom Life and Mental Health
Christa Innis: So how do you think, like becoming a mom, like you said your oldest is 10, how do you think becoming a mom or how has that changed with like, your viewpoints on mental health, um, community?
Um, like I feel like it kind of shifts as you probably, probably with each kid, but like as you get older too. But how do you instill mental health in them and how’s your viewpoints changed on it over the years?
Brianna: Sure. Um, well what’s really, so what’s interesting is I, when I was in, my husband and I were both in grad school at the same time and I got pregnant like.
Not on purpose. I mean, we’re married, but not that it matters. But we were married, we were like newly married and we were in grad school. We were living, um, like on his parents’ property. They had like this little loft thing that we were living in. And so it was like this temporary thing. We were like, we just gotta get through grad school and then we’ll figure out what we’re gonna do.
Um, we really, I was like, I wanted a baby eventually, but I was like, okay, we gotta wait. So we got a dog, we got a puppy, and I was like, perfect. This’ll like satiate my, my baby need. And then lo and behold, the same month we got the puppy, I accidentally got pregnant. I was like, so I was pregnant in grad school.
I had to do like my internship as a therapist, like while I was pregnant. I also like, looked very, very young at that point because I was like 23. Like I was a baby and I looked like a baby. So that threw another thing that I was like, I already feel young seeing these clients. I dunno what the heck I’m doing.
I’m pregnant. What is happening? So it was like kind of a crazy time, but it, you know, it all worked out. I had, um, our first. Son and then graduated like three days after that in grad school.
Christa Innis: Oh my gosh.
Brianna: It was crazy. And then like a month before he was born, we like moved into our house. So it all, it all worked out.
But all that to say I was at, we were at very different points at, in our life when we had our first baby. Um, and while I think like in comparison to a lot of like maybe evangelical people, we were a little bit more progressive. We still were on the conservative side. Um, and so I would say that’s been one of the biggest changes is, is my viewpoints from when I was a new mom till now, like just have changed a lot.
Um, and even just like becoming a mom, knowing how hard it is. Um, and like, wonderful of course. But I’m like, I really think you gotta, you wanna be able to choose this, you know? Um, because there are hard days where even if you wanted it, you’re like. I wanna run away for a day, right? So I think everyone should have that choice.
So I think that’s been super, super impactful on me, is just seeing like how hard it is even with all of like the resources and support I have and not everyone has that. Um, and um, so I started, you know, off as a therapist and I’ve, I’ve always worked part-time ’cause we’ve always had like a baby or toddler or both at home and childcare is so expensive.
So I opened my private practice, did all of that. Um, but I think as my political leanings became more progressive, that really helped me as a therapist. Um, there was never anyone I would’ve like turned away as a, as a client or anything. But I think at the beginning there were times where I felt kind of like, oh, I’m really, I really don’t know how to, how to approach this person because I haven’t maybe interacted with a person from this like, walk of life or this anything just different than what I had experienced.
So I think it’s helped me a lot as a therapist to, um. It feels like now everything aligns really well, which is, which is nice. Like I feel confident in who I am as therapist and a mom. And it’s just like, as a person, it feels like it’s all in alignment. Um, but raising all boys is, uh, it’s really fun. And my boys are like very good.
They’re very good kids. Like my mom loves to remind me. She’s like, you know, your kids are like so good and easy. And I’m like, well, they’re good, but you know what kid? What kid is easy mom? Um, but they are, they’re very sweet kids. Um, and you know, normal sibling stuff, but they’re very sweet. But I think one of the biggest things is realizing that looking around the world, like a lot of the things that have happened in our world and our country are because of powerful men usually that are not using that power for good.
And so I tell my boys a lot, like, I’m like. Listen, it’s not, it’s not fair and it’s not right, but you are going to be afforded privileges that other people aren’t your boys and you’re white. And that unfortunately is gonna put you in a position even if you didn’t earn it. So you have to do something good with that.
Um, and I’m thankful, like I went to a very, um, so we like lived next to the town that I grew up in and I, I love it. But the, like, the schools that I went to in the high school I went to was like, no diversity ever. Like, it was very just like homogenous. So now I’m very thankful they go to a different district.
They are exposed to all different types of people, different languages, different cultures. Like to them it’s very much more normal than it was for me at that age. And I think that helps a ton. Mm-hmm. Um, but we really try to like just be open with emotions and like, it’s okay to be sad. Like being a boy doesn’t mean you can’t cry or.
Like one of my kids, I won’t say which one, but he gets made fun of because he really likes pink. So silly. But still, still, which I was like very shocked by that. But like, people are mean to him at school sometimes, and I am thankful that like we’ve had conversations where he most of the time feels confident that he’s like, who cares?
Like, I like what I like, like mm-hmm. You know, girls can like blue, I can like pink. But I think sometimes we forget as much, uh, progress as we’ve made as a society is that there are still a lot of like stereotypes and, and pushback. Um, and obviously girls deal with, with so much, but I’m on the boy end of the spectrum, so I’m like, okay, I wanna just make sure that we all the masculinity that we’re modeling to you is not the toxic kind.
Yeah. So we’re trying our best. Yeah.
Christa Innis: No, I love that. I feel like millennial parents, and again, every time I say this, like make sure I’m saying, I’m like, I don’t think other generations are bad parents. Like everyone has their, no, we’re, our generation
Brianna: is a little different. Yeah.
Christa Innis: But we, I feel like millennials are really good about.
Emotions and empowering emotions.
Brianna: Yes.
Christa Innis: Because I feel like we heard a lot of times growing up like, don’t cry or like, you know, tough up whether boy or girl, you know, whatever. But um, like even like seeing my husband with my daughter and being like, it’s okay. Why are you sad? You don’t, it’s okay to be sad or like you, like name your, your emotions.
And I feel like that’s something like, I would say I have a, I have a girl so I can’t relate to the boy aspect, but I feel like too, it’s like important when you talk about, um, embracing other cultures and languages. Yeah, like I was talking about this recently in a post where people said I got too political.
Um, where when we go to the library every week, I make sure we get books with kids that look different than that are characters that look different than her. Um, or we just got bilingual books the other this week and last week we’re starting to do more of that so she can pick up on words and, and it’s just, it’s little things like that.
It’s so easy to do, but I’m like just making that effort to show like, hey, let’s like embrace other cultures and other backgrounds so you don’t. Turned 25 years old and you’ve never met anybody that looks different than you or had a friend that looks different than you. Mm-hmm.
Brianna: Exactly.
Christa Innis: It’s so important with this next generation, and I feel like that is something that I am noticing with millennial parents that we are, it’s very general.
It’s a very general thing,
Brianna: but we’re trying to be more intentional, I think. And you know, and this is not what you’re saying, just to, just to be clear, what I’m about to say is I think that sometimes people feel judged by like. Millennial parents that were like, oh, we’re trying to do these things. And they’re like, well, we tried our best.
And I, I agree. But I think if you just trace, and this is obviously painting with a really big paintbrush here, but if you just trace back the generations of parents, I think most parents did the best they could, but they were given very limited tools.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Brianna: To do what they could in their parenting like, and like my parents, I am not critical of them.
They did the best they could, but they were raised by parents who weren’t even ever allowed to say how they felt ever. Mm-hmm. So when I had big emotions and maybe I got, you know, sent to my room a lot or whatever, was that the best option? No, probably not. But the fact that I could say how I felt that was progress.
Right. Yeah. So I think that it’s like it’s culminating more and more and. Millennial. What’s, what I think is really interesting too is like millennials are the only, thus far, the only generation that is not becoming more conservative with age. And I think that translates to our parenting that we’re like, we will let you have these feelings.
Like it’s not just children need to like be seen and not heard or whatever the thing is, right. Um, so I think it’s all kind of coming together. Um, the hard part is I think because millennials are so in touch with this, we’re always so worried about like, oh my gosh, we’re traumatizing our kids and we probably are like, that’s it.
It is, it’s we are okay. We are your kids gonna meet their, we’re learning something. But I think the fact that you just said that we’re learning that is different than again, broad strokes, many previous generations of parents, um, is that there wasn’t the openness to say I was wrong. And I think if we can start from that place of like.
We are also learning to be parents. We’re learning you individual, each individual child, what you need. Then at least in the future, it’s not hopefully that our kids will just hold us against, hold it against us for our mistakes. Right. Right. Like they’re like, we get that you’ve always been open and so that, that matters a lot.
It matters a lot.
Christa Innis: Yes. No, that, that was so well said because I, I’ve had similar conversations before with people about that. It’s just like being a parent, coming up a parent myself too has given me more sympathy for like my parents and other generations too. Because you made a great point. Like even talking to my dad about his parents’ generation and his grandparents, like it was so different.
Yeah. It’s like, so they kind of took those tools and made it better and they took those tools and made it better. Um, because yeah, like my, I remember my dad being like, uh, not to get too personal, I don’t share a lot of personal stuff, but like, you couldn’t even like crack a joke at the dinner table growing up.
Like it was serious. Like you sit down. Yeah. We’re not, if you like burp at the table. Yeah, yeah. If you burped or anything, you were like punished. You were off.
Brianna: Right, right.
Christa Innis: And so my dad’s like, I never wanna be that way with you guys ’cause like. Dinner should be follow, we should be hanging out, you know, whatever.
And so, um, just hearing them talk about that. I feel like we’re always trying to like see what our parents did and how we could be better. Not saying they were bad, just saying, how can we take that and then apply those tools? Um,
Brianna: right, exactly. I think that’s what everyone’s trying to do. And that’s, you know, that’s the goal in general, not just parenting.
Right. But I think. Sometimes it can be hard ’cause it feels like, I think other, other generations feel like, oh, like you’re, you guys are being so critical. And I think the criticism doesn’t have to, I mean, sometimes it is warranted if it, if, you know, it’s like a really negative thing. But I think we can look and just say, we know more now we have more resource.
Like we, our, our generation of parents has so many resources, which can be overwhelming, but like my mom couldn’t hop on Google and look and say like, what the heck do I do when my kid does this? Or like, she didn’t have the community besides her next door neighbors to, to figure out like, what happens when my kid comes home and, and says this thing.
Um, and while sometimes I envy that, I think we, it, we just have more resources now. And so we’re just trying to utilize those and yeah, it’s not everyone before us was bad by any means. I think it’s just like we would hope our kids become even better parents than we are. Right? Yeah. So,
Christa Innis: yeah. I know. Yeah.
It’s funny you said about like, too, like talking to your kids and you’re like, oh my gosh, am I, what am I doing right now to, you know, ’cause like, I will, I’m already overthinker and then being like a parent, I’ll be like, I see myself in her sometimes and I’ll be like, oh my gosh. I’m like, and I, and I’ll be like, I’m, I’m sorry I said it that way.
And I’m like, I should say it like this. Or like, um, I dunno if you’ve ever seen that S one L skit, I think, I think it’s Kristen Stewart and she’s like trying to compliment a kid other than like, oh, you look pretty in that dress. Yes. She’s like, you’re, you’re so smart. And so like, I try to like correct myself because I’ll be like, you’re such a pretty princess.
And I’m like, and you, you’re like,
Brianna: wait, no, but that’s not the only thing good about you. I know
Christa Innis: your brain. It’s so hard. Your brain.
Brianna: Yes. Well, and I feel like for a while, and there’s obviously, there’s nothing wrong with that, but I think for a while the pendulum kind of swung so far. The other way that it felt like if you praised your kids at all, it was negative.
Like they were like, no, ’cause they have to have like the growth mindset. All of that is true. But I think if you are. Which you are. I can just tell, even from talking to you, if you’re raising your kids and looking at them holistically, like you’re, they’re an entire person, it’s fine to tell your daughter, oh my gosh, you’re such a pretty princess.
Fine. But I think what, what happened with in some people’s, you know, childhoods, or especially like years and years ago, decades ago, um, is that that was like the only thing that girls were praised for, or, you know, eldest, eldest daughter syndrome. You only were like, oh, you got, you did well. And so we praised your accomplishments.
And so that’s it. And I think if you’re being intentional, it’s, it’s pretty easy if you’re being, if you’re just treating your kid like a person, that you’re gonna recognize all those parts of them. But Right. But I get, you’re like, oh wait, that’s bad, right? Did I just harm you for life? Are you gonna go to therapy for this one day?
Right.
Christa Innis: Disney movies or something. And I’m like, I learned about Disney movies, and I’m like, she had Stockholm Syndrome because he wants her up. So we’ll watch Between the Beast. I’m like, yeah, it’s a great movie, but remember when a man, if a man acts this way towards you, that’s not normal.
Brianna: It is not for real life.
Well, and the thing that I tell my clients and myself, honestly all the time, um, is that I get like with the awareness of knowing how everyone, or like our kids are impacted by our behavior, we get really worried about what’s happening and we think sometimes it’s like, oh no, I yelled at my kid, or I said something wrong, or I sent them to their, this is what I’m guilty of.
Sometimes I send my kids to my, to their room and I’m like, oh, I probably should have talked to them, but I got dysregulated in that moment. I like couldn’t handle it. So, and what I tell people is that the, when that, when that happens, when there’s some sort of like, uh, rupture of the connection, that’s what they call it in, in like the relationship, there’s a rupture.
So it could be like yelling at your kid. It could be, um, not noticing their bid for attention. It could be sending ’em through their room when it should have been a conversation. That part feels bad. And that’s where we kind of get stuck sometimes, right? We’re like, oh my God, what did I just do? They’re gonna carry this with them forever.
Um, but what’s actually more important, and they’re like a ton of different studies on this, I won’t get into all of it, but it, what’s more important is the repair afterwards. And they’ve done all these different research studies showing even with babies that it’s like when you with a baby, it looks like they’re trying to get your attention and you’re not paying attention.
And they’re like, what’s going on? They’ll pick up what on it quickly. What’s more important is the repair. So it’s connection basically. So when you know you have that moment with your daughter and you’re like, I shouldn’t have said that. The part that you went, go to her and you, you know, correct what you said, or you say, you know, like for me it’s usually like.
I probably shouldn’t have sent you to your room. I should have talked to you and I was overwhelmed. Um, that part is the part that like lasts in their brain and that’s what like the, the neurons in their brain are like, okay, this is okay now the relationship is okay now. And I think what, where some parents in the past have maybe stopped is there, is they’re like, oh, that feels bad.
I don’t wanna revisit it. So they don’t, and then the, the repair never happens, if that makes sense. No,
Christa Innis: that was like, that was like
Brianna: powerful. I know. When I heard it for the first time, I was like, oh, that’s so, I mean, I think it’s so encouraging because we’re trying our best, but we’re also only human and we’re bringing, just like our parents brought their stuff, we’re bringing our stuff.
And when my kid freaks out and screams and like, is just being a kid is overwhelmed and I wanna shut them in their room. This is, maybe this is too personal, but I’m like, I know that as a kid and I love my parents. If my parents watch this, love you guys, you’re great. But, and they will admit that they did not.
Let me have those big emotions. So it’s very hard for me to sit with my kids when they’re having those big emotions. ’cause someone didn’t do that for me at that age. Yeah. So I think you have to go, okay, I’m getting triggered as a parent and now I just need to do the repair and. I remember there was a moment you just said the same thing with about your husband and your daughter.
There was a moment where my husband, um, he like was talking to one of my sons and my son was like, you know, really nervous to like, tell something. It was like, no big deal. They’re really little, but they were like really nervous and he was like, there’s literally nothing that you could tell me that’s not gonna make me love and care about you.
And, and there’s no mistake that you can make that’s like too big. And I’m in the corner like choking, sobbing. And my husband’s like, are you okay? And I’m like. Listen, I had an amazing dad. Like my dad is like, great. But I think when you witness your partner doing that with your child, it’s like, oh my God.
I just know you just planted such a good seed in the, in your kid. So
Christa Innis: yes. You like take those snapshot snapshots. Yes. And you’re like, ah.
Brianna: You’re like, oh, this is like core memory. Like in that movie. It’s like that just got captured and that just planted the seed of like acceptance in your kid and it’s like, it’s really nice to watch.
Christa Innis: Yeah. And then you like, I feel like, and I flash forward to like the future and I’m like, you are, you have such a good dad that’s gonna like, call you, like talk you up about your emotions or like what’s going on at school, who you, who are your friend, you know, like that kind of stuff. That’s possible.
Brianna: Totally.
Christa Innis: I love that. I feel like we just had a therapy session, so thank you for that. I
Brianna: can’t help it. I can’t help it.
Christa Innis: No, I loved it. I loved it. I feel like I’m gonna really remember those repair moments. Oh good. Okay. I always feel like it’s funny when I like switch gears. We like chat and, okay, let’s go to like, um, wedding stories.
So as this podcast is around like. Wedding or event stories. Mm-hmm. You told me that you have kind of a funny or wild story that happened in regards to your wedding so far. Sure.
The Boudoir Surprise
Brianna: Oh my gosh. I told my husband I was gonna tell this, and he is like, you loved telling this story? And I was like, well, it’s so embarrassing.
I think it’s funny now. I think it’s funny. It wasn’t funny then. So like I said, I grew up like Evangelical Christian. And so I got married very young. Not that you have to, but it’s pretty par for the course. So my husband and I started dating when I, when I was 18. So like, I like met him like the day after I graduated high school or something.
And we dated for a few years. We got engaged when I was 20. Oh. Uh, and we are getting married when I was 21, so, um, he’s like two and a half or three years older than me. Anyway, all that to say, so part of like the thing, I don’t know if people still do this, but it was like a big thing to do boudoir photos when I was getting married.
Um, and especially I think kind of from like the. The Christian bubble, it was like, oh, you’re like allowed to do this stuff now, now you can be promiscuous. So I had, I had this friend love her and she still, she’s, she laughs about this, I laugh about this. This is no shade to her. She did our photos for our engagement.
We even had done some like model like faux engagement, uh, photos for her, like modeling before we were even engaged. Known her forever. She’s like my youth group leader, so knew for a long time and she took our, all of our pictures, she took our, she took my boudoir photos. She said, I wanna gift this to you for, you know, your husband, once you’re married, you can do these photos, whatever.
And, um, wedding photos, everything. So I took them and I was so insecure at the time. I like didn’t look at them because I was like, I like looked at one and I was like, I hate my body. I like was the hottest I’ve ever been though. So that’s depressing. But I was like, oh God, I can’t look at these. So didn’t really pay attention to them.
Uh, got married, went on our honeymoon. We got back from our honeymoon and we had a gallery of our, like the star, the like preview gallery of our wedding photos. And she was like, Hey, here’s your preview. If you wanna like send these to your friends and family, you’re welcome to, obviously you’ll have a full gallery, but this has some of like your family if they wanna like put them on Facebook or whatever you’re using back then.
And um, so I like emailed out the link to everybody and apparently she used this like, hosting site. Mm-hmm. And so none of it was supposed to be linked to other photo shoots, um, except for on her end. But somehow my father-in-law was looking at the picture. My father-in-law then was the picture. And, uh, he pressed like back on his browser and he was trying to go to like all the pho, like all the preview photos.
Yeah. But it took him to. Every photo she had ever taken of me. And so he like all of a sudden gets like all of these thumbnails of me in, I mean, look, I was in lingerie, but still it was the lingerie. So he, I’m like with my husband, and we had like just gotten home to like our little tiny apartment. And my like, my husband’s like, oh, hold on.
My dad’s calling me. He can picks up. He’s like, he’s like, Hey, what’s up? And I like, look at my husband’s face and my husband’s like, oh my, oh my God. And I’m like, what’s happening? And his dad like, can’t even get the words out. He’s like, you, the photo, you have to tell people not to open. And we’re like, whatcha talking about?
And so it, you know, it comes out like he saw them and he was like, I, I clicked out it really quick, but I don’t want anyone else to see these, blah, blah, blah. And I was mortified. Like, I was like, oh my, like out of anyone. It couldn’t have been my mom that accidentally saw it, or like my sister, it was my father-in-law.
So he sees that, whatever. Luckily we got it fixed. The photographer was like so apologetic, but I was like, you didn’t, it was like a, something with the website. It was not her fault.
Christa Innis: Oh my.
Brianna: But it’s funny because. At the time, I was so insecure that I hadn’t shown my husband those photos yet. Oh he, and so my, my dad saw these and now, still now, because it’s like tainted to me now, I was like, I can’t show, every time I think of these photos, I’m gonna think of your freaking dad.
Like this is bizarre. And so my husband to this day, he brings it up all the time. I’ve never shown him that like, can I please see them? I’m like, well now it’s weird because that was like five kids ago. To me, I look like so young now. And so it’s like this ongoing joke. Luckily my father-in-law has never brought it up.
He acted like it never happened. And that’s way
Christa Innis: like not here or there. It’s gone.
Brianna: Yep.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Brianna: Yep. But every time that I am somewhere and there’s like, oh, we gotta tell your most embarrassing story. I have to pull that one out. ’cause I’m like it now. I laugh, but man, when you’re 21 years old, newly married, it was not funny.
Christa Innis: Yeah, I would probably like move countries and change my name on
Brianna: Yep. I was like, oh, I wanna die. I actually wanna die. So I’m thankful that he just acted like it never happened to me. Um, and because I do the same thing and we just, you know, pretend that didn’t happen and
Christa Innis: just move on with our life. Oh my gosh, that is wild.
Brianna: It was bad.
Christa Innis: That was, that’s, yeah. That would, that I feel like that’s the only way I can go about it. Like, there’s no reason to discuss it or talk about it. You just gotta move past it. Nope. Yeah,
Brianna: yeah. Nope. So now it’s funny, I even said to my husband, I’m like, oh, I’m telling her this story today. And he was like, are you ever gonna show me this?
I was like, Nope. Nope. It’s, it’s tied to a bad memory now. And he’s like, okay. It’s
Christa Innis: like locked away. Just,
Brianna: yeah. I’m like, there’s somewhere on a locked thing on the internet and that is where they will stay.
Christa Innis: So when you actually sent like, or resent the, the link of your wedding photos out to people, did you like triple, quadruple check?
Yes.
Brianna: Yes. Well, and it’s funny because it never happened, like she was taken all of her photos and it was some sort of like glitch that happened that took people back to the homepage that was supposed to be private and
Christa Innis: oh my God,
Brianna: shot
Christa Innis: like, here, I’ll just print you a couple wedding photos and manually,
Brianna: yeah, exactly.
No more internet. Well, and like, especially at that time, like, like I said, I like grew up like Christian conservative, so it was like, not that I would love that now, but like my, my mindset now, I would be like, oh my God, that’s embarrassing, but whatever. But back then it was like, that’s like the worst thing that I could imagine, like mm-hmm.
Horrifying. I could barely deal with the fact that I even took those photos. I was like. What’s wrong with me? Why did I do? I’m so weird. So yeah, that was bad, but now we just laugh and it’s a funny memory.
Christa Innis: Oh gosh. That’s hilarious. Oh man, I love it. That was such a great story. Um, okay. Um, before we get to today’s story, I know we’re kind of going over time.
Are you still okay on time?
Brianna: Oh yeah, I’m totally good. Yeah. All good.
Red Light, Green Light: Wedding Edition
Christa Innis: Um, okay, so I’m gonna do a little red light, green light. This is about like, kinda like wedding ish related, and then we’ll do our resubmission.
Brianna: Okay. Okay.
Christa Innis: So just answer with red light or green light. Eloping without telling anyone.
Brianna: Ooh.
Green light. Okay. I
Christa Innis: like that. Inviting someone who didn’t invite you to their wedding.
Brianna: Mm. Green light.
Christa Innis: Calling out a guest publicly for rude behavior.
Brianna: Ooh, red light. Can’t do that. I’d be too embarrassed.
Christa Innis: I know. I feel like for me, it would depend on the situation.
Brianna: I guess it depends what the behavior is.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Brianna: Right. I once went to a wedding where the best man was literally so wasted, and no one would stop him with his rambling speech. And that’s where, that should have been a call out like, ’cause like there were like hundreds of people and we were all just watching as he told embarrassing stories about the bride.
Christa Innis: No.
Brianna: And I was like, someone take this man off the stage and take his microphone.
Christa Innis: I know when I, I’m like, why are they not unplugging the mic and be like, Hey, thanks, bye.
Brianna: I know. And I’m like, I’m just a random guest. Like, if it were my friend, I would’ve, you know, intervened. But I’m like, it was so bad. And the bride was like, dying inside.
And I was like, yeah, that’s the time that that’s a call out. That’s a call out for sure.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I know. I, I was at a wedding once where the maid of honor said something about her friend, the bride only marrying for money. Fuck. But it was funny because, well, I don’t know if I wanna say too much, but it was, it was an old boss who no one liked.
So I was like, yeah,
Brianna: like you’re like, he like
Christa Innis: a terrible Yeah. Terrible boss. Toxic a bit. Well, I was like, well, I’m not surprised.
Brianna: Yeah, you’re like, I’m not gonna say anything.
Christa Innis: Well, she was so nice. I was like, I don’t know how that happened, but anyway. Uh, okay. Um, expecting cash gifts if guests traveled far.
Brianna: Oh, I’d say red light. I feel like, I guess it was hard too, ’cause I got married so young that I like, didn’t really expect that much. I was just like, let’s just do this.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Brianna: But I, especially in today’s economy, I think if people show up for you, that’s pretty nice, you know?
Christa Innis: Yeah, I know.
Brianna: Even small takes a card.
I don’t know.
Christa Innis: I know. I feel like if someone is. Paying for a flight or a hotel or like coming like a long way. I’m like,
Brianna: expensive.
Christa Innis: Yeah. They’re, they’re coming to spend the day with you.
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Um, letting your mom control the guest list because she’s paying.
Brianna: Ooh. My mom did do that. I mean, she let me invite who I wanted, but she’s like, we’re inviting all these random people and I was like, okay.
I didn’t really care. But I feel like, again, I feel like getting married so young, like I didn’t care about certain things that I would probably care about if I had gotten married, like in my thirties. Yeah. I think I would have more to say there. So I let my green light back then red light probably. Now if I, if it was happening now, I’d probably speak up a little bit more bit.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I say that all the time. ’cause like I’ve been with my husband since we were 24.
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: I’m 35 now. And so I was like, I’m like, and, and we, and we got married when I was, I think I was 31. 30. Um, and I was like, I feel like it’s night and day. Like same thing. If I would’ve gotten married younger, I think I would’ve had a way bigger wedding party.
I think I would’ve invited a lot more people. Um, oh, a hundred
Brianna: percent. Wow. It would be so different like now, honestly, and I, I don’t regret having my wedding. ’cause I think it was really wonderful and it was really great to have people that like loved us and, and wanted to celebrate us, but now I’m like, I just value different things.
Maybe it’s after kids too, I don’t know. But I think I would’ve gone a lot smaller. I would’ve paired things down, but, you know, I’m happy it happened that way. But you just have a different perspective as you get older, I think.
Christa Innis: Yeah. You know, elopement also way different than too.
Brianna: Yeah, totally. Like
Christa Innis: I feel like, like we were, I was just talking, I, we just did a wedding, a story where it happened in 20 2001, so I was like.
Way younger obviously, but 2001 and the wedding was $16,000. And I was like, that seems so cheap. Yeah. But that was like 25 years ago now. 26 years ago. Right. And so it just keeps going on i’s so exciting.
Brianna: Oh, totally. Because I think like my parents spent a lot of money on our wedding and now if it were that same, obviously not like with inflation, I think if it were that same amount amount of money now it would be like nothing.
And that wasn’t even that long ago. Like, we got married in, when did we get married? 2012. It’s been a long time. Um, but yeah, it’s like, it’s so different. It’s just so different now. And I think, but I think even also like back then there were also a little bit like, like I said, like less resource parenting.
There were like less ways you could figure out like where could I buy, like at the best price, all these things. So yeah, who knows? But
Christa Innis: kinda what you
Brianna: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Christa Innis: And before Pinterest probably, which is like,
Brianna: yeah, that was like just entering the scene when I got married. So I feel like a lot of the things that I had were very pinteresty like, I’m like, oh yeah, probably pinned that and just copied it.
Christa Innis: Oh my God, that’s the best. Um, a mother-in-law inviting extra guests without asking,
Brianna: ooh, I’d say red light, but my mother-in-law would never, she’s good.
Christa Innis: Um, friends complaining about wedding costs to the bride,
Brianna: Ooh, that is a red light. Unless it’s really out of control. Like, I have heard, I haven’t had this experience, but I have heard of like, you know, the bride, maybe it has more money, like resources that way, and then the bridesmaids don’t, they’re in a different stage of life or they, you know, have more expense going on.
So I think you have to be aware, you know, like not everyone has the same budget.
Christa Innis: Yes. Have open, but
Brianna: completely bride feels gross, right?
Christa Innis: Yeah,
Brianna: yeah,
Christa Innis: yeah. I, I don’t, I don’t like that. Just have open communication if you can’t
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Do it. Yeah. Be clear. Okay. Let’s get into this week. Story submission.
Brianna: Okay.
Christa Innis: Um, as always, I’ve not read it yet, so we’re gonna see what happens.
Oh,
Brianna: love it. Yay.
Christa Innis: My husband helps me out and he, he picks them, puts them in here.
Brianna: Oh, good. So it’ll be a good one. Yeah. Yeah.
The Wedding and the Grudge
Christa Innis: Um, okay. So feel free to stop me at any time or we’ll just react as we go. All right. Okay. My husband’s sister has always been a little intimidating. Even when she was being nice, I always felt like I had to walk on eggshells around her.
My husband, however, always said they were extremely close and had a great relationship, so we spent time with her and even visited. Um, she even visited us a few time when she lived outta state. On one visit she came with her boyfriend. He was nice overall, but he definitely came in hot with political views that were very different from ours and ended up arguing with me a bit.
It was uncomfortable, but we laughed it off and moved on. Fast forward to our, to the week of our wedding. The day before we were set to leave, about a five hour drive with a lot of packing and last minute prep, she asked my husband to meet up for drinks. He said no because we had too much going on. We had no idea at the time that this would apparently cause so much tension.
The first night we had planned a casual dinner and invited everyone who was already in town. She had a few cousins all around our age who were supposed to come, but at the last minute they said they wouldn’t arrive in time and wouldn’t see them until the next day.
Brianna: Oh, wow.
Christa Innis: The following day, they were coming to help me set up for a welcome party.
I met them at the venue and while everyone was helpful, I could tell immediately that she was in a mood. Her boyfriend, on the other hand, was wonderful. My sister and my mom kept commenting on how great he was, and we were genuinely grateful for everyone’s help. After that, we all went our separate ways.
Until the rehearsal and welcome party, we didn’t have tra a traditional wedding party, so the rehearsal was small. Just our parents, my sister and her kids who were in the wedding, my in-laws, and the friend who was officiating. We signed our marriage paperwork that night. My sister signed then and I caught my sister-in-law at the welcome party so she could sign as well.
While there, I also talked with her and my mother-in-law about what time they should come over in the morning to get ready. Okay. The morning of the wedding, she was in a bad mood and barely spoke to anyone. I spent way too much of the wedding morning trying to make sure she felt included and happy, which looking back is wild because I was literally the blind.
It’s like when, when you’re gonna be like sour and then take away from the day, it’s just like,
Brianna: ah, that makes me so mad. Yeah, it’s embarrassing. Yeah.
Christa Innis: During family photos, her boyfriend forgot his jacket. I brushed it off trying to not be be a bridezilla, but she continued acting distant and upset. I don’t remember her saying anything kind about how I looked or expressing any happiness for us at all.
Is this all because he missed a drink with her? I’m so confused.
Brianna: Crazy. Yes.
Christa Innis: At the reception, she sulked in the corner for most of the night. My husband tried to get her to dance or even just talk, but she shoo’ed him away. The next day was more of the same. She removed herself from activities and played the victim.
Brianna: Wow.
Christa Innis: A few weeks later, my husband met up with her and she said she’d been in a bad mood because her cousins made her be the designated driver for the wedding.
Brianna: What,
Christa Innis: how does someone make you, for one,
Brianna: I know, you know, you can literally just, you could just drink something like
Christa Innis: Yeah,
Brianna: and say no.
Christa Innis: You can just say, yeah, no, I’m not going to, or take an Uber.
I mean, I don’t know what it was, but
Brianna: yeah.
Christa Innis: That obviously sucks, but she agreed to it.
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: So why like make that your whole personality then like, yeah.
Brianna: What? That’s bizarre.
Christa Innis: That’s really weird. It’s like she wanted to be the victim or be upset about something. It
Brianna: sounds like she wanted, she needed the attention for some reason.
Christa Innis: Yeah, because if someone would’ve asked me to be a DD for like one of my best friend’s wedding or a sibling, I’d be like, no.
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Sorry. Staying at the hotel or whatever.
Brianna: Right.
Christa Innis: Um, when my husband asked why she seemed so disengaged, she didn’t have an answer. The next time they talked, she said she felt left out of the wedding and that it didn’t feel like her brother’s wedding at all.
Just a party. She happened to attend. What did she, oh my
Brianna: God.
Christa Innis: This is someone that literally, I don’t think you can make happy. I just
Brianna: No, no, because she sounded very involved. Yeah. Like she was ready to get ready, like she’s at the reception or whatever, like all the different events.
Christa Innis: Yeah. She’s at everything.
Brianna: That’s suspicious.
Christa Innis: Yeah. At that point we decided to step back. Now we’re at Civil Family. Now we’re civil at family gatherings, but don’t have a relationship with her to this day. She has never apologized for how she acted. My husband is deeply hurt and frustrated. She’s used to getting her way and she finally is.
He’s finally done accommodating that behavior. In a more recent conversation, he told her he was sad and he felt like she wasn’t really a part of his wedding. She immediately denied ever saying that it essentially gas, and she denied ever saying that, and essentially gaslit him claiming that she never felt feels that way.
She would never feel that way. Now, she insists she was going through something but won’t explain, just continues saying she was excluded and I didn’t do enough to include her. She even claims I didn’t tell her ahead of time that I wanted her there while getting ready, which isn’t true at all. I bought matching pajamas and slippers and absolutely told her in advance.
At this point, she wants us to feel bad for her and apologize, and that’s simply not going to happen. She has completely centered our wedding memories around herself and how she felt, and we are exhausted by it. Since stepping back from her life has been peaceful, no drama, no anxiety about offending her, just calm, his parents aren’t happy and keep telling my husband to be the bigger person.
Oh, make up. But what’s done is done and he’s just done dealing with her. One last detail that adds context. She lived at home until she was 34 and moved out a few months ago, about five months at our, after our wedding. We’re now eight months out from the wedding and I still can’t believe she hasn’t tried to apologize.
It’s sad to watch someone play the victim for this long, and I still don’t understand how our wedding made her so uncomfortable. But honestly, the whole situation has made me appreciate my own family even more. I feel like I kept waiting for something like to be revealed.
Brianna: Something missing. Like the, the bride does not know something.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Brianna: Didn’t know what it is.
Christa Innis: Because why was that like weird boyfriend all of a sudden, like really hands on? Like was something going with that? Like, you know, I thought there was something about him.
Brianna: I thought it was especially ’cause she said the thing about his political views. At first I was like, oh, something’s gonna come up with that later.
Like, but it seems like they were just surprised that like he kind of rubbed them the wrong way and then he was really helpful later.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Brianna: Something else is happening and I wonder, okay. What I wonder is, okay, the husband said he had a really good relationship with the sister, right? Like at first, or like, he always had, I wonder if the, the marriage.
Somehow disrupted his role in the family. Do you know what I mean? Like all of a sudden he, because it sounds like once he didn’t accommodate her anymore, then she’s like, I’m out. Which is actually really normal thing when someone decides not to be in their role in the family, whatever they’ve always played, then people get upset by that.
Um, so I wonder if the relationship was good because he was so accommodating to her all the time and like played to her emotions.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Especially when she added the detail about she lived at home that whole time, like mm-hmm. Up to 34. Mm-hmm. Which, you know, no shame everyone has their own reasons for, you know, no, they calm economy’s crazy.
But if still lived at home and maybe he lived at home before living with his girlfriend, we don’t know those details, but for sure, like he found a girl, he wants to get married to her or found a woman wants to get married to her and has all these wedding things coming up, realizing that she kind is taking the back seat.
Like,
Brianna: I think so not the most important.
Christa Innis: I like,
Brianna: yes. I feel like this is the type of thing sometimes you hear about, um. Like when you hear like mother-in-law, horror stories like this feels like a, a different version of that. It’s like, oh, all of a sudden you’re not the number one or whatever, you know, like, you don’t, you’re not taking priority.
And so immature people, right, like this, this sister, a mature person would say, Hey, this wedding is happening. I need to say something. If I feel left out. Like that would be the mature response, right? But I think immature people, they make themselves trying to make themselves the center of attention, like sulking, right?
Like doing all of these things to be like, look at me, I’m so sad. Which is very teenager like, honestly. And then. Not bringing it up until later and then denying it, all of that. It just like, to me, just like reeks of insecurity and being like, it’s like a tantrum a little bit. It’s like an elongated adult tantrum.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Like, you should know why I’m acting this way. Yeah. I’m gonna tell you so. Right. Check out my cues.
Brianna: Yeah. Which is, again, it’s very teenager like, but teenagers are allowed to do that because they’re, I mean, they can’t be, you know, rude or whatever, but like their, their brains literally, they have to act like that, but they’re, they don’t understand how to do the adult thing, but the sister obviously does.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I,
Brianna: what also gives me pause is that the parents are like to the husband, like, you need to go apologize. So what that tells me is like that the daughter is the center of that
Christa Innis: family. That’s
Brianna: the dynamic. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It’s like we have to accommodate her. And maybe up until now they didn’t have a big issue, so it doesn’t, it hasn’t been obvious.
But the big issue is he got married and,
Christa Innis: yeah.
Brianna: Wow. I, I will say from, from what she shared, props to the husband who seems like he took. Control of the situation. Yeah. ’cause I think sometimes, like if it’s like a man and a woman married, then the woman sometimes feels like she has to like, help manage that, which is, and then she gets called the whatever, the bad person in the situation.
Um, so at least it seems like props to him that he was like, yeah, I’m not doing that. That’s great.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. I know. I love that because, uh, you made a really good point. It’s like that typical like mother-in-law story we hear where they’re like, wait, but I’m the number one woman in your life, right? Like, right.
Yeah. And so there’s that weird like, divide that they can’t accept. And so I feel like that was that’s a good point because they like, we, a lot of times in these stories too, like I don’t hear, we don’t hear about the fiance or the husband, right? Yeah. And they’re. The bride or the woman, the relationship is like left to deal with the drama.
Like, he’s like, well, sorry, my, my parents are just weird. Or my mom’s weird. Yeah.
Brianna: And then she looks like the bad, the bad guy that like shut the
Christa Innis: boundary,
Brianna: whatever. Yeah. So good for him there. That’s good. I think with people like that, obviously there’s just a snapshot of their lives, but I think with people like that, like the sister, you do have to maintain really strong boundaries and then if you keep them, then they get the choice if they want to be in your life or not in, you know, while, while keeping inside of those boundaries.
But it sounds like there it was the best choice because their life is like peaceful now. It also hasn’t been that long since the wedding. So it’ll be interesting. It would be interesting to hear like, you know, a couple years from now, especially like if they have kids or something, like if that dynamic changes or how that dynamic changes.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. And, um, I feel like too, now I’m going back to the 34 living at home thing too. Yeah. Again, there’s different reasons. It’s all nuanced, but yeah, if it’s something where she was babied maybe, and like never actually forced to like, go out on your own or get a job, you know, I don’t know every, what other details.
Brianna: Right. But it seems, it sounds, it seemed like pretty pointed that the, that the bride put that in the story.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Brianna: Like, not just like a, like, I think if it weren’t that, like if it were like, oh, you know, she had like, you know, she lost her job or whatever. She had some sort of circumstance. She had to live at home.
It wouldn’t have been worth mentioning. So it feels like she was like, she lives at home too. Wink, wink.
Christa Innis: Yeah. It wasn’t like she went away and came back. It says she lived at home until, so I’m getting like, she was like the baby, like princess of the family. Never had to be. Does
Brianna: it say, was she the older sister or the younger sister?
Did it say in there,
Christa Innis: let’s
Brianna: see,
Christa Innis: it just says
Brianna: the sister, I think. I don’t think it said.
Christa Innis: Yeah, my husband’s sister. Yeah. It doesn’t really say, it doesn’t,
Brianna: it feels like if it were the older sister, I wonder if she was like, my younger brother is getting married before me, or like meeting these milestones before me. And then obviously if she’s the younger one, it could be that like extra like baby of the family.
Like everyone kind of caters to her and then all of a sudden they’re not. But it would be interesting to hear like the birth order there.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I feel like that’s really interesting. Yeah. It, it definitely makes me think. It says she, so she moved out five months after the wedding, it sounds like.
So maybe that’s like the push she needs to get out. Yeah. Yeah. But um, yeah, so I’m getting like she’s used to everyone kind of catering to her. Mm-hmm. And because the brother said like, no, because I’m doing this thing with my wife, I can’t come. That was like the thing. Yeah. She’s like, I’m gonna hold onto this
Brianna: forever.
Christa Innis: He said no to me. Your sister. Yeah. Um. Which I always think it’s like, of course they’re not thinking with their, like their right brain or whatever, but like,
Brianna: yeah. Yeah.
Christa Innis: I, I always think like with these mother-in-law stories of the sister story, you are just creating more of a barrier. Yeah. Like if you really wanna be involved, like, how can I support you?
I’m so excited for that. You found the love of your life. How can I be there? And then they would want her to hang out with them all the time, you know, like,
Brianna: and it could be this positive relationship.
Christa Innis: Yeah,
Brianna: totally. I think The Hartford is, is like most people, and again, it’s like whatever, people in adulthood, you have to learn how to do these things on your own.
But I think this is, this is like actually such a great example of why it’s so important to teach your children how to say how they feel. Because all of a sudden you have a 34-year-old sister who has to be like manipulative basically, or like secretive with her feelings and you can’t control everything that, how your kids turn out.
But it’s like, that’s why we say to our kids, like, how do you actually feel, share with people how you feel, be, you know, direct in a kind way. Because I think it’s actually very normal to have those feelings. If you have a sibling or a child get married and you feel like, what’s my place? There’s nothing wrong with the feeling, but it’s like the behavior is where it gets weird.
Right? You’re like,
Christa Innis: right,
Brianna: that’s, that’s ruining something for the person you’re upset that is, is changing roles in your life that you’re claiming that you love and you’re making them upset. That doesn’t make sense.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. There’s definitely a lot missing and I feel like they’re not gonna get the answers from her at this point.
Brianna: Oh.
Christa Innis: So now it sucks because now there’s this like weird tension in all their relationships and it could have just been like a new stage, but
Brianna: Right. She could have just said, oh man, like I really wanted to go out for drinks with you. Like I’m, you know, I’m happy for you, but I’m having a hard time that our relationship is probably gonna change.
Great. It was that easy.
Christa Innis: Yeah, it was.
Brianna: It was not though. I don’t think they will probably ever know either. Yeah. Unless one day she like blows up at them and says, oh, this is all what happened and
Christa Innis: yeah.
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh
Brianna: gosh. That’s
Christa Innis: messy. And, and it’s too, it’s like she can’t see, when you’re in that victim hood, you can’t see people including you.
Right. Because I mean like it’s so easy to just like sit in that spot of like, oh, everyone hates me. They don’t want me here. And like no matter how many times someone comes over, she’s just not gonna, no, she’s looking
Brianna: at everything through that lens. Yeah. She’s like, oh, well maybe she invited me but it didn’t seem like she really wanted me there or whatever.
’cause it’s like clear the bride was involving her, but it, yeah, when you’re in a certain mindset, I think it’s like, it’s very hard to like assimilate true information and like what’s actually happening. So to her, I don’t even think she necessarily sister was like necessarily like lying about these things.
But I think that she kind of, it seems like she chose that kind of victim mentality and then, then she just saw everything through that.
Christa Innis: Yeah. This is totally like, not making up stories in my head, but like I. Reading in between the lines too. Like even deeper. What if it’s something with like, she is the older sister and like you said, like maybe like offended that he’s getting married first.
Yeah. And so then she like meets this boyfriend. Right. But they’re, it’s kind of weird. So maybe she said something like, something about like getting married and he like isn’t interested and so then the whole wedding she’s just like, oh, you’re
being
Brianna: so I, you’re being so helpful to them, but like you don’t even wanna marry.
I feel like there, there had to be some sort of dynamic with the boyfriend because it seems like weird timing and I think that, I don’t even know, like the bride that wrote in, like I feel like she included things without knowing why she was including them. But they are important. Like why bring up the political thing necessarily?
Like, I don’t know, it just seems like there’s like certain pieces I’m like, oh we’re just missing just a teeny bit.
Christa Innis: Yeah. It’s like
Brianna: I feel like something probably did happen there. Yeah,
Christa Innis: yeah, yeah. Like some hidden conversation with him. ’cause he’s all of sudden being really helpful and hands-on and she’s like, screw you, I just talked to you about marriage and you’re not interested.
Yeah. Something.
Brianna: I’m
Christa Innis: really reading into that for that.
Brianna: No, I, I kinda love doing that though. It feels like those books where you’re like, you see, you like read the whole story and then all of a sudden the next chapter you’re like, you get the different character’s perspective and you’re like, oh, that’s what happened.
I feel like we’re missing that chapter. Yes. We need to know what
Christa Innis: it’s, I
Brianna: know. So we have to,
Christa Innis: I know. Can the sister write in and tell us or point For sure.
Brianna: If you’re listening, tell us your, your perspective.
Christa Innis: Sounds like you right into us. Oh my gosh. All right. Um, that was a definitely a different kind of story because I feel like normally we have like some wild thing happen, so that was good that we could like kind of understand.
Wedding Traditions Confessions
Okay. I would like to end these with confessions that people sent me on Instagram so we can react to these. We, this week we asked what was the wedding tradition that you didn’t want but felt forced to do anyway. Did you feel this way about anything at your wedding, like traditions that you’re like, I’m not doing it, or you did something and you were like, I don’t really like that tradition.
Brianna: I don’t know. Not, I mean. I mean, like I said, I was like heavily still like in the church stuff, but part of like the ceremony, there were a lot of like you like took communion or like prayed together, which I wasn’t against, but I felt super uncomfortable everyone watching us. But there was never like a, and no one like forced me to do it, but it was like the pastor that did our wedding.
That was just what you did. Yeah, but looking back now, like I think I could have incorporated it differently, but I just felt weird. ’cause like everyone’s literally just sitting there watching as you like do all this. I know.
Christa Innis: Which, which, between the two of you? Yeah.
Brianna: Yeah. I’m also like not huge on PDA, so like, which sounds funny at your wedding, but be like, kiss, kiss and I’m like, I, it’s not that I don’t wanna kiss my husband, I just like, I’m not a big PDA girl.
So I was just like, okay. Like, I dunno, that sounds really weird to say, but my husband isn’t either. I’m like, listen, we love each other. But I don’t know the wedding itself. I think sometimes it’s fun to be the center of attention, but for a whole day it’s a lot, man. It’s
Christa Innis: a lot.
Brianna: Yeah, but nothing too bad.
Nothing too bad I can do.
Christa Innis: I get that. Yeah. Like we didn’t, we didn’t do like, I, ’cause I see a lot of people talking about this. We didn’t do the bouquet toss or the garter toss because I was like, let’s just, I don’t,
Brianna: no, the,
Christa Innis: the bouquet toss. I feel like people get, like, I don’t see my friends doing this necessarily, but I’ve been to a lot of weddings where women get vicious.
They like kush, they like elbow and like scratch. I’m like, you’re
Brianna: like, you know, this isn’t like really gonna make something happen for you. Right. It’s just
Christa Innis: No. I’ve read so many stories about people getting mad because they didn’t get the bouquet and I’m like. Girl,
Brianna: that is bizarre.
Christa Innis: You’re not gonna actually
Brianna: things a little bit too seriously and the garter thing, just feel, I think we maybe did that, but like I’ve been to some weddings where it’s like, this is uncomfortable.
Like what is happening? Like why is your whole head under there?
Christa Innis: I don’t want, yeah. I don’t want my husband’s whole body under my dress.
Brianna: Well, I know. I think ours is like quick whatever done. And I was like, why do we even do that? That was so weird. Some conditions are better left in the past, I think. But yeah, you can do what they want.
Christa Innis: I would say like, okay, so we see garter bouquet toss decorating the apartment with rocks, litter on the floor in the toilet and tub. What?
Brianna: What? Why would you do that?
Christa Innis: I’m guessing this was, this has to be European because I, I know like in Europe they call like the to the bathroom would be like the toilet.
Oh. Unless she means the actual in the toilet. Yeah. Wait, it could be like in the toilet.
Brianna: That’s so weird. Maybe they like. I know some people will like decorate or like have a surprise for when they get home from their honeymoon. Maybe they did, went like over the top with that or
Christa Innis: something. Oh, maybe that’s what it was, and they put glitter.
Oh my gosh. Don’t put glitter on anyone’s house. Just don’t,
Brianna: don’t, just don’t have glitter, period. It doesn’t, don’t have doesn.
Christa Innis: Like I love like a little glitter here and there. Like if, whatever. Yeah.
Brianna: Like
Christa Innis: a little face
Brianna: glitter, but like glitter on things. No.
Christa Innis: Yeah. And don’t surprise anyone with glitter, they’ll be watching that out for months.
Brianna: Yes.
Christa Innis: Um, this person says inviting people that I don’t like.
Brianna: Yeah, that’s a tough one.
Christa Innis: You don’t want people at your wedding that you don’t want. That’s,
Brianna: you don’t. Well, and then it’s, it is hard like, ’cause I know it’s like sometimes there’s like family members that aren’t your favorite. But also, I don’t know, there’s, I think especially, and I think again, things that are changing through generations, it’s like you used to have to do that ’cause it was like, oh, you have to respect your elders or these family relationships.
But I think now more people are like, oh, like I get the choice. Just like I wouldn’t invite some random person I didn’t like, I don’t have to invite that person just ’cause they’re related by blood. But
Christa Innis: yes,
Brianna: that’s tricky for sure.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I, I definitely think people are getting better about like boundaries with like, okay, well we only can fit a hundred people so I’m gonna fit the a hundred people that I’m closest with.
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: I do think like, unless it’s like someone that’s completely like. Exile from the family or like, you know, you don’t like see them. I feel like if you’re inviting like an uncle, you shouldn’t invite all aunts and uncle, you know what I mean? Like Yeah. Otherwise that’s kind of weird, that one. Yeah. Or cousins of a certain age, you know, whatever or
Brianna: totally.
Christa Innis: You’re inviting like friends in a circle don’t like leave like two out
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Of that happen. And then that’s really awkward for everybody because that
Brianna: is awkward.
Christa Innis: Oh, you’re going to the wedding. What wedding? You know? That’s
Brianna: right. That is awkward. And I feel like it’s better to be like, and obviously I know money is a factor, but like, if you can’t afford it and it’s part of it, it’s better to invite those people and like either they don’t come or you don’t remember that they were there versus people being left out.
I feel like I’m always hypersensitive people being left out. I’m like, just include them.
Christa Innis: I know. I don’t want somebody left out. Yeah. Um, this person says, including my sisters and my bridal party.
Brianna: That’s an interesting
Christa Innis: one. Sounds like drama. Drama there. Mm-hmm.
Brianna: Uh, my sister was in mine and she would, I’m sure she would agree, but she, my sister’s six years younger than me, so I think that, and I got married really young, so like she was really young, so I think it was, and who knows, maybe those people have drama, but I was happy to have her in my bridal party.
But I think looking back, like when I did like my bachelorette, they involved her, which I was happy to have her there, but then obviously we’re not like going out to a bar or anything. She was like 15 years old. Like, so I think it was a little tricky with that, but again, maybe different decisions if I was older and, yeah.
Christa Innis: Right.
Brianna: I think you should have to invite, like, if you don’t have a close relationship with your sister, I feel like it is kind of weird to have them in your bridal party.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I feel like there’s a lot of pressure from like parents sometimes. Yes. Um, like I talked to a, a bride and groom once where the guy was like, yeah, my parents are threatening to not come to the wedding if I don’t have my brother be my best man.
And I was like, that’s wild. And he’s, yeah, he’s the most unreliable. Like, we’re not close. He’s like already asked my best friend and they’re like, you have to revoke his title. And I was like,
Brianna: yuck. Can
Christa Innis: you imagine? Like, I was glad, like my parents didn’t, ’cause both my husband and I, we had our siblings in our wedding, but like I had my best friend be my maid of honor, not my sister.
And he had his best friend be his best man, not his brother, but, and they weren’t offended. They were fine. And our parents were like, you can have whatever you want. It’s up to you.
Brianna: Right. Well, and at the end of the day, like I get that, especially with the having people in your bridal party is one thing.
Like if they’re like, we want, like, can you please have your sister as, as in your bridal party? Not that they should be able to request that, but I kind of get that. ’cause they’re like, okay, they’re gonna be in special pictures, they’re gonna be in all these things. Like I kind of understand that more. But to say like they have to be your best mehan or your maid of honor is wild.
Because usually that comes with other responsibilities. Like you don’t wanna unreliable person.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Brianna: There. Yeah. That’s weird. That’s really weird.
Christa Innis: Yeah, I don’t get that. All right. This last, per last, last one says, my church was so against dancing, so we didn’t have any dancing at our wedding.
Brianna: Were they in Footloose?
What was happening?
Christa Innis: Oh, no, I weird. Were the grandpa demanded that everyone stop dancing because it was like against their religion and like, oh, that’s one of those things where it’s like you have to like break, not break against tradition, but but like break against like, okay, yes, they did that their wedding, but like what, what do we want at ours?
And
Brianna: we want Exactly. Well, and it seems, I think what’s interesting is like she says like our church is against it. That feels interesting that you’re a part of that church. If you don’t, I mean, I know it sounds like a small thing, but if they’re against dancing, that says a lot about other things. They probably believe like their values and stuff about behavior.
So it’s like, well what if you didn’t have your. Wedding at the church? Like could you have it somewhere else or, I don’t know. Maybe it’s trickier than that, but
Christa Innis: yeah. I’m kind of wondering if maybe it was something where she got married a long time ago and it was a similar thing where she at the time belonged to the church.
Brianna: Yeah.
Christa Innis: And then now she is like looking back, I wish we could have danced ’cause now I would’ve loved that or something.
Brianna: Yeah, that’s possible. I feel like that that would make sense. And especially if you get married younger, some you just don’t speak up about things or you think, oh, it’s not worth it to say something.
And then you get older and you’re like, oh, that would’ve been really nice actually.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. All right, well that was interesting then. Interesting story. I wanna see if I can get like more, more from
Brianna: that. I know she’s listening. Write in and give us more details.
Christa Innis: Yes, I know. I need like get that big like wow moment.
Well, thank you so much for coming on. It was so nice meeting you and I feel like we had such a great conversation with different angles and stuff.
Brianna: Really nice. Thank
Christa Innis: you again. Again for everyone that doesn’t follow you. I haven’t seen your content or can they follow you and what’s something exciting that you’re working on?
Brianna: Sure. Um, okay, so my name on all my socials, it’s kind of funny, but it’s Bril Weasel, so I don’t know if it’ll be like in the caption or, or yeah, we’ll
Christa Innis: add it.
Brianna: Um, but yeah, like I said, I post like mom content, political content, try to make people laugh. Um, and I just got new kittens, so if you wanna follow me, even for kitten content, they’re literally so cute.
Um, but yeah, I love, like, I’m like, I, I have a lot of people that follow me that feel like maybe the, the people in their lives, they don’t have someone to, to talk about whatever they’re going through. And I feel like it’s creating this nice little community. So come and join us. We’ll welcome you and maybe you’ll find your people that way.
Christa Innis: Awesome. I love it. Well, thanks so much again for coming in.
Brianna: Yes, thank you.
Proposal Ambush, Sister Seduction, and Passed out Bride with The Cliffnotes Gal
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What was meant to be a romantic waterfall engagement turned into a champagne ambush, sister betrayal, and a bridal shop break down. From body-shaming comments to financial manipulation, this submission spirals fast, but thankfully, so do the boundaries.
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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments
- Engagement Hijacked – What should’ve been a private waterfall proposal quickly turned into a champagne ambush with mom and her friends cheering from the sidelines.
- Passed Out at Her Own Wedding – A diabetic low mid-vows left The Cliffnotes Gal with a blackout ceremony, a brain fog reception
- Blessing Revoked – Dad agrees to the engagement, until he doesn’t… and suddenly claims he never gave his approval.
- The Boundary Reset – When money, guilt, and ultimatums escalate, the only option left might be choosing peace over family pressure.
- “If They Don’t Know Your Birthday…” – The Cliffnotes Gal’s rule of thumb for wedding guest lists: no birthday knowledge, no invite.
- Sister Seduction Scandal – Two weeks after the engagement, the bride’s own sister begins telling the fiancé she’s the “better option.”
Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode
- “Perfection. This is so fake. It is so fake.” -The Cliffnotes Gal
- “Perfection doesn’t happen. That’s the thing.” -The Cliffnotes Gal
- “If it’s not positive and bringing you joy, then why have it?” -The Cliffnotes Gal
- “They haven’t proven that they’re worthy enough to be there.” –The Cliffnotes Gal
- “If they don’t know your birthday, they don’t need to be there.” –The Cliffnotes Gal
- “I think it’s like we wanna continually give chances, especially for family or people we’ve known for a long time.” -Christa Innis
- “You need to be firm with your boundaries now.” -Christa Innis
- “That’s why people stay in like toxic family relationships for so long because they’re like, well, it is family…But no one deserves to be treated that way” -Christa Innis
- “They want real people with real content.” -Christa Innis
- “Blood is thicker than water… I think they’re using that as a manipulative tactic.” -Christa Innis
*This conversation is for entertainment and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Please seek a licensed professional for your specific situation.
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Christa Innis: Hi, welcome to the podcast. Hello. Thanks for coming on. So you are the Cliffnotes Gal, and I know many people know of you as a Cliffnotes Gal, but kind of to get started, how, how, like who are you and how did you get into summarizing these long stories? I remember the first, well, and I can talk about it later, but the first time I saw you, it was just like, this is saving me so much time.
You cover all these amazing, um, stories into a quick little summary. So I know that wasn’t
Cliffnotes Gal: so
Christa Innis: long way
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. Showing my age here, but it’s happened during COVID, I did the typical, like I needed a break from being bored in the house, which when I say that I think of that song off the top of my head. I’m bored in the house and I’m bored in the house.
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Um. I would take 20 minutes every day as my lunch break. I would go learn a new dance and I would do it and I would record it. And one of the days I decided I didn’t wanna learn a new dance, I was just gonna scroll and find stories. And I don’t remember what the story was about, but there was this long drawn out story that I watched for probably, I think I watched probably 10 videos.
’cause that’s back when like videos had to be shorter on TikTok. And by the time I got to the end, I was like, I just wasted like 15 minutes of my lunch break when this person could have said it in a minute.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: And I was so annoyed. And so I stitched one of the parts and just said. This is what the story was about here.
It’s over in a, here’s the whole story in less than a minute. And I spoke really, really fast. Um, and it blew up. I mean, blew up millions of views when all of my videos were just like me doing dance trends. Um, ’cause I am a dancer as well. I’ve, I, I did ballet, I did Point and Lyrical for 14 years. Um, I do hip hop now and love to dance.
But yeah, it blew up. And then I didn’t know what to have as my name at that point. It was called something else, Southern something, I think. And uh, I was like, y’all, what do I call myself? And I still have the screenshot during COVID of someone saying, well, you’re doing the cliff notes. And since you’re like Southern Gal something.
You should just be the Cliffnotes Gal. And I have yet to repost that clip and I need to, ’cause I have the screenshot telling that person, like, thank you so much. Um, so I became the Cliffnotes Gal and so showing my age, some people don’t know what Cliffnotes are, um, really teenagers today, they see her and they have no idea who the Cliff notes or what the Cliff notes is.
Um, so for anybody watching this, back in the day when I was in high school, in college, if there was a book that you had to read and you had a test coming up on it, you wanted to get the shorter version of it so you didn’t have to read the 500 pages. So there was this yellow and black book that existed for every book out there called Cliff’s Notes.
’cause his name was Cliff I think. And it was Cliff’s Notes. And that shortened the story. And so you were able to read the Cliff’s Notes to get the shorter version of the book and then go take the test on it.
Christa Innis: Oh my.
Cliffnotes Gal: So I do the shorter versions of TikTok stories.
Christa Innis: So I just learned something from you because I, I remember Cliff, cliff notes.
Is it Cliff’s Notes or Cliff? Cliff Notes Cliffs. I dunno. Cliff.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah, it’s Cliffs.
Christa Innis: Cliff’s Notes. Okay. But I remember as a website in high
Cliffnotes Gal: school. Oh was it? Yeah. Oh my gosh.
Christa Innis: Actual show. I don’t, that
Cliffnotes Gal: even shows my age even more.
Christa Innis: I was like, I don’t remember an actual book, but maybe I’m like, I don’t know if thinking of the wrong thing.
’cause I do remember people using Cliff’s notes for books in high school.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah.
Christa Innis: And I don’t know, I, I’m sure I did. I don’t really remember. I just remember hearing about Cliffs Notes and, yeah. That’s wild. But I was talking about it to someone recently, how like, I remember doing like book reports and like middle school and high school and having to actually like pull out like.
All the encyclopedias and reference it. And I’m like, kids these days they can just Google or whatever they, gosh. Using, using ai. It’s like all their stuff and I’m like, are they even learning? I don’t even know. Like what?
Cliffnotes Gal: And there, there was something else that came out after Cliff’s Notes. I think it was called SparkNotes.
Christa Innis: SparkNotes, yes.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yes. That’s SparkNotes came out after. But back when Cliff’s Notes existed for me, it was a physical book that you went to the bookstore. It was yellow and black and you went and bought it and it was a paperback
Christa Innis: Wild.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. Golly. I feel old.
Christa Innis: No, honestly, like it probably was around for me. I just don’t really remember.
I just remember, I remember SparkNotes now that you say that, but
Cliffnotes Gal: Well, if you remember SparkNotes then you definitely weren’t around for the paperback version of Cliff’s Notes. Because I never used SparkNotes because that was way after I graduated high or college.
Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. That’s so funny. Yeah. That’s so funny.
’cause people are probably like that younger generation. They’re like, oh, cliff Snow. That’s so clever. She came up with, well it’s funny ’cause one of, one of my skits that I did, so I like, will come up with character names from movies that I grew up watching or like shows I watch. ’cause it helps me remember like, oh, the mom’s so and so dad so and so because I call them by the wrong name.
People would call me on, they’d be like, no, the sister was Ashley, not Anna, or whatever. And so one day I did, um, characters from Ferris Beeler’s Day Off. I just like, it was a movie I grew up watching all the time. And so I just like grabbed like Ferris and Sloan and like, I ended up changing the names later ’cause it was like I turned into a book and I was like, I don’t want the same names.
Anyway, so I made a vid a video talking about how like, yeah, these names came from this movie and all these people were like, what’s that movie? And I was like. How old are you? This is like a staple in my house growing up.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yes.
Christa Innis: So it was just kind of funny. I was like, oh, I just assumed everyone knew that movie, but
Cliffnotes Gal: yeah.
Christa Innis: Wrong on me.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. Uh, I grew up with like, I loved the Breakfast Club. Um, I loved Dirty Dancing, but they think Dirty Dancing is that rough remake that came out that
Christa Innis: I’ve not even seen that one. I refuse to
Cliffnotes Gal: Don’t waste your Time.
Christa Innis: Some that are remake, I’m just like, no, no, thank you. If they ever, I don’t think they could remake Breakfast Club.
That’s just, that’s another classic. Love that.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. I, I gave the second dirty dancing about 20 minutes of my time and I said, I’m good.
Christa Innis: Really?
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. Yeah. It was rough. It was rough.
Christa Innis: Okay, so kind of back to your, your channel and everything like, so it kind of started, you said like unexpectedly, like, did you ever think you would become like a viral creator that like has this big platform or.
Cliffnotes Gal: I had no intentions of that. And I’ll be honest with you, I still don’t feel like I am. Um, I’m in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and so Louisiana is a small state. Uh, it’s funny when I’m in parades, uh, like I ride in the St. Patrick’s Day parade every year, and it never fails. Every time I’m on a float, like people are screaming from the street, like the Cliff Notes gal to throw beads to them.
Um, but it’s hard to, I’m just, and so many people say this and it pisses me off when they say it because like when they say, I’m just an everyday person, uh, I, I really am and I try to be my page. I try and stay like me to the core. So I will tell stories. In my pajamas. I will tell stories with rough ass hairdos.
I don’t wear makeup hardly ever. Um, I don’t really wear makeup much anyway. The only thing that you’ll normally see on me is earrings and a necklace because I love jewelry. Mm-hmm. Um, but I try and stay as real as possible because there are so many people that I used to follow and I’m so happy for them that their pages have grown.
Like that’s awesome for them. But I have slowly watched them change. Mm-hmm. And I don’t want to become that. I want to still be the person when I did my first Cliff notes. And I hope that my viewers still see that by comments. It sounds like they still do. I try and stay respectful with the stories that I do.
Um, but at the same time, it’s uh, it’s weird having a platform because. I do wanna make sure that every so often a video that I do, I feel like I’m making a difference. I don’t, it’s a little draining to continue constantly doing things that are like just stupid ass drama. Mm-hmm. Um, or things that are really, really, really intense and can affect people.
Mm-hmm. It can be extremely draining because some of these stories take a long time, and I have, I should have brought it with me. I have a notebook, um, that it is thick as hell and it’s my second notebook because I take so many notes watching these stories, and then I refer to the notes when I’m retelling them and try to memorize as much as I can.
Every so often I’ll have to use a teleprompter to remind me of notes that I need to discuss while I’m telling the story. But, um. It’s just weird. Like I still, I’m still a normal person. I’m still, I, I hope people see me that way. ’cause I don’t ever wanna come across as like fake as hell out there.
Christa Innis: Yeah. No, I totally understand what you’re saying though, because like you do see some accounts that automatically change to like, let me show off what I own.
Let me show you this. Yeah. And I, and I know you’re just saying like, I hate when people say that, but like, I, I’ve, there’s been this couple times where I’ve been out in my town and someone will be like, I, I love your videos like this. And they feel like really, like, uncomfortable, like, not uncomfortable, but they’re like, almost like celebrity.
Like, they’ll be like, oh, can I get a pic? Like, I love your videos. You’re my, I’m your biggest fan. I’m like, I’m a normal, like I’m swear to God. Yeah. I’m very normal. I have a toddler running around half the time, half the time I’m like wearing pajamas at home. Like I am very. Weird mother. Just, I don’t know, like, I’m just me.
Cliffnotes Gal: That’s awesome though. Like, stay that way. I was, so, my husband and I, um, every year we go to a small town in Louisiana. It’s called Minden, Louisiana. When I tell you it is the epitome of a, um, a hallmark town. So it is the type of town to where it’s, the downtown is like two main streets, but you’ve got like the cute little coffee shop where they, they roast their own beans and you’ve got like a couple of restaurants and you’ve got a couple of shops, but it’s like mm-hmm.
True Hallmark Town. Well, we were down there for Christmas and I went into one of the clothing shops, which is like a, it’s like a thrift shop. It’s called Purvey. It’s owned by a woman named Sarah, who is from Menen, I believe,] born, raised. And her mission is to, um, take like dilapidated, dilapidated, dated whatever homes and buildings and like bring them back to like life.
And she’s done an amazing job. And so we went down there, we stayed in one of her cottages that was absolutely gorgeous. It inspired my background. The room that we stayed in at her cottage had this beautiful floral background, so that’s the reason why I got this. Um, but anyway, we went to Purvey. We were shopping in there and I was looking at the record, uh, collection that they had, and this woman tapped me and she was like, are you, are you the Cliff Notes gal?
And I was like, I am. And so we chatted for a few minutes. And then they went to go, she went to go leave and she was like, it’s so nice to meet you. I was like, it’s awesome to meet you too. Like, I hope y’all have a Merry Christmas. And then her husband is like, well wait, babe, don’t you wanna get a picture with her?
And she was like, no, no, no. I don’t wanna ask her for that. I don’t wanna ask her. It’s like, no, we can totally, like, we can take a picture. So I could tell like she wanted to, but so I’m so glad that her husband said something because I tell people they, the people will leave stuff in the comments like, oh my gosh, I saw you at such and such in town.
And I’m like, y’all come say hello. Um. Don’t, like, don’t come attack me, but like, come say hello like I am, we’re from the south. Like I am so happy to say hello. And I mean, I’ve had people that, like, we’ve been out to dinner at a restaurant and they have been so absolutely polite. It was another young couple that came up to us while I was at the table and they were super polite.
I think that there is, there is a polite way to address people and there is a non-police way. Yeah. Um, just be polite and, and I’m super happy to like say hello and chat and take pictures or whatever. Yeah, yeah. It’s fun.
Christa Innis: Yeah, no, definitely. I feel like, I feel like that’s like the beauty of like social media and storytelling is like the connection that you can make and like, um, like I’ve met so many amazing people and just like through doing this podcast, ’cause like I was just saying, I’m like, most of the time I’m with my husband and my daughter and we just do our own thing.
I work from home. So it’s like, this is a great way to like meet other people. ’cause like, I don’t, you know. Do all, I don’t know, I guess I don’t like, yeah, go to an off regular office and all that stuff. Um, but I love that, that’s, it’s cool the connections you can make of people, um, you know, all over and obviously you’re making an impact because people are, feel like they know you in some way to be able to like go up and like say hello.
So. That’s awesome.
Cliffnotes Gal: I appreciate it.
Christa Innis: Yeah. So when you, okay, so it kind of started off where you were like, these videos are taking so long, so I’m gonna make them shorter. Right. So how do you now select which videos to do and how do you know they’re gonna be worth your while? Or do you watch some and you’re like, I don’t even know if it’s worth it, or do you get tagged in a lot of videos?
Like how do you select those?
Cliffnotes Gal: So I am super, super thankful to the followers because I wouldn’t find any of these stories if it weren’t for them. My entire FYP on TikTok is animals and sourdough bread. Uh, that’s about it. That’s about it. And so I’m typically not scrolling and seeing, I don’t see any of this stuff on my FYP, so I wake up in the mornings, kind of like what my routine is, is I’ll wake up in the mornings and I’ll scroll in the mornings before I start, like my actual real job.
And I’ll see how many tags I’ve got. Majority of the mornings, it’s about anywhere from a hundred to 200 tags. Most mornings if I wake up and there’s only a short few, I can typically scroll through and watch a few seconds of the tags to figure out which video I wanna do. If there’s a lot of them. I actually wait until that.
And I’ll have to scroll the hundreds of tags. Mm-hmm. If there is a certain video that I find I’m being tagged in more, that’s normally the one that I will settle on. Um, and then I just put in my headphones and I sit in bed and I write notes for however long it takes me to get through all the parts. I will do it in one night, so then it’s fresh.
I will then type out the notes that I want to talk about and then every day I film or record outside after I finish my day job. Um, I normally do it around like six or seven o’clock while the sun is still up and I give myself two takes. That is it, it again comes back to me like I try to be as real as possible.
So when IF up in a video, I talk over myself a lot and I mess up words. I don’t go back and rerecord ’cause I ain’t got time for that.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I love that you do.
Cliffnotes Gal: I’m a mom as well, so if IF up on it, you’re gonna see me f up on it.
Staying Real in a Filtered World
Christa Innis: Yes. I need to get better at that. That’s, I love that you do that because like, uh, it’s like, I don’t know if it’s like from working in social media marketing, I’m like, I’m always like overthinking how I sound.
Plus like, people are so like critical in comments sometimes that I’m like, oh, did I pronounce that word wrong? Or whatever. But like, I think people love to see real like that. Like, um, I was talking to someone re recently and I’m like, people don’t like the over performance anymore. They’re so turned off by it.
They want real people with real content
Cliffnotes Gal: Perfection. This is so fake. It is so fake. Um, again, I don’t need to have perfect hair. I don’t have some, some videos. If you go and scroll back on my videos, you will see I didn’t even brush my hair. Literally didn’t brush my hair. I threw it in a ponytail because the notes were like fresh in my brain and I was like, I’m just gonna go hurry up and record it right now.
Um, but yeah, perfection is not, perfection doesn’t happen. That’s the thing.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: So I would highly encourage you, like, you don’t need to, you don’t need to fix it if you messed up on the word, so be it. If you like trampled over your words and messed up on ’em, still use it. I mean, I’d rather see someone being more real than having to cut something out because it wasn’t perfect.
Then you rerecorded it and you put it back in there. But then I can tell it’s a cut because you went to the next part.
Christa Innis: Right.
Cliffnotes Gal: It’s um, yeah, there’s too many people trying too hard. And the thing is, is the viewers can tell like they’re not stupid. Yeah. They can tell.
Christa Innis: Oh yeah. Yeah. And I think too, it’s like that, I feel like it was like pre TikTok, that like Instagram of like the perfect photos.
Oh gosh. Crisp and clean and editing them. And then people just realized like, most of us don’t have time for that shit. Like, no,
Cliffnotes Gal: no,
Christa Innis: we’re busy, we’re wanting to work, we’re taking care of kids, dogs, whatever, whatever it is. And it’s like, we don’t have time to like, make everything crisp and clean and um, it’s more relatable too.
I feel like, like when I see someone that’s just like jumped on their bed and they’re like, Hey, and they just start talking. I’m like, I’m so much more intrigued. I’m like, we’re friends hanging out.
Cliffnotes Gal: Like talk to me like we’re on FaceTime. Mm-hmm. And I’m gonna be more intrigued listening to your video than if you just sat there to just be a robot.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: And I find that like, some people are like that with. Brand deals, which I mean, shit. Oh, I don’t know if I can cuss on your podcast. Sorry. Oh, you’re fine. Yeah. Oh, okay. Uh, I’m like, get get the bag. Like definitely get the bag, but at the same time, don’t get the bag for something that you wouldn’t actually use.
Um, there are a lot of creators out there, and especially I find with like facial products or even like shampoos or conditioners or something, if you’re gonna review a product, can you, like, I need you to truly, truly use it. Like really, really, really use it. Don’t tell me you used it for two weeks and then it’s the most amazing thing that you used when for whatever product that is, you know damn well it would take a good like three to six months of you using that product to see it like in action.
Christa Innis: Yes, because too, I find that when people are so inauthentic, then it makes people that are authentic, like harder to. Come across. I dunno if that makes the sense. Right, makes sense. I
Cliffnotes Gal: totally understand what you’re saying. Yes,
Christa Innis: because I’ve had people I remember. I like, I’m very selective and I remember, um, this brand that I actually used in my own wedding, birdie Gray.
Not obviously not sponsor, I’m just like saying like, they, I use ’em in my own wedding. I’ve worn ’em for many bridesmaids dresses. And I was stoked when they like, actually wanted to work with me. ’cause I was like, I’ve used this, I’ve worn their dresses like three or four times now. And there were comments like, oh my gosh, another ad.
And I’m like, no. Like legitimately I love them. And meanwhile, like I was like, I, I say no to like, like someone asked about like a dog product. I’m, I don’t even have a dog, so I’m not, why would I do that? Or like, there, I’ve never heard of this brand before. Why am I gonna say yes to that? Um, and I think it makes people then untrustworthy because they’re like, oh, well I saw this girl talk about this product.
I know she doesn’t use. So it’s,
Cliffnotes Gal: yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Cliffnotes Gal: My, my people receive emails all the time for brands and they’ll forward them to me, and I’m like, why? Why do they feel like the Cliff Notes gal would be good to promote a treadmill? Like, what did you get from my page that talks Fitness? Nothing like, yes. Nothing at all.
And then I had one the other day for like a weight loss app, and I was like, when have I ever spoken? Like, you don’t know my page clearly. You don’t know my page. You saw the number of followers and you thought, Hey, let’s see if she’ll do something.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Cliffnotes Gal: Not gonna work.
Christa Innis: That was like, I remember I used to watch Bachelorette years ago.
I haven’t watched in many, many years, but I remember as soon as The Bachelorette or whatever would get off. Their season, they’d do like the waist trimmer and this, and I’m like, I know you did not wear a waist trimmer before getting on at this. I just know you didn’t. Yeah. And they’d talk about the tummy teas and all this.
Oh, I always drink my tummy tea. And I’m like, did you really? And it was just so inauthentic because they immediately got off the show and they have all these deals for these things. And I’m like, these are all about weight loss and working out and all this. And I’m just like, I, I don’t buy it.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. I’m like, and I love, I love that like, they have these opportunities to make money.
I really do. Because I mean, at the end of the day, them doing what they’re doing, it’s a job. Um, they are out there to make some money. But I think that there’s a, there’s a line that, that you have to choose if you wanna cross. And a lot of people do cross it. I’m not one of those, um, people consistently ask me about my, about face stuff.
And I have told them I have used the same products. I’ve never switched since before. No, I think it was around COVID. Um, fetish is all I use and it’s, it was started by someone, her name’s Jenna. She was a, a DJ on a really, really popular show called Kid Crowd. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of Kid Crowd in the Morning.
It’s a syndicated radio show. It was when radio shows were extremely, extremely popular, like the morning shows. And I would listen every single day. And I started listening to that show when I was probably like 10 years old. Well, she realized that there was a miss in, I guess facial world, makeup industry, whatever you wanna say.
Not makeup, but, um, rosacea and like, uh, all of that stuff was happening. Redness in the skin and acne, all of that. And she realized there was a miss for facial products with, um, like hemp in them, or not. THC what’s the other thing? CB. C, BD, thank you. There was a miss in the, in, in the area there, there wasn’t anything with CB, D in it.
And so I had always had really bad rosacea on my face, and I liked the radio show, so I was like, you know what, let me try it. And so she was kind of doing both things, kicking off the company and then doing the radio show. And so I bought just the lotion and I was like, let me see what this does, girl, when I tell you within like a week I was not having any redness on my face anymore.
It just took a week. And so from there, every single time this woman comes out with something new, I, I buy it right off the bat. So like if I, I’ve done a video before, like if I show off my entire fetish skin line, it is, it’s everything. It’s lotions and soaps and serums and, and like. Everything. So again, like anyone reaching out to me to promote like makeup or facial stuff, I’m like, no, because I know what works and I’m an actual customer and can show proof of the thousands of dollars I’ve probably spent with them over the years.
Um, and again, like if you’re gonna tell me a lotion works, you are gonna say, you got it from the TikTok shop two weeks ago. Like, that’s bullshit. That’s, you can’t tell me it works in two weeks.
Christa Innis: Yes. Oh my gosh, that’s so funny. Yeah, I know. I, yeah, I was saying too, like with working and, and marketing too, I think I can like kind of read between the lines with little people.
My, my husband gets like pulled into marketing things sometimes. He’ll be like, oh, well it’s half off. And I’m like, what was the price last week? You know, like, I’m like, I can see that kind of stuff. It’s, it’s kind of funny to notice that. Um,
Cliffnotes Gal: yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I kinda, I kind love when it, if you’re able to like, with this growth, like stay like true to you and like.
Share these stories. I feel like it’s, it is obviously like making an impact and feel liking. ’cause like I said, the first time I came across your page I was like, oh, this is saving me so much time because like, I don’t have time to sit and watch these like, long things. But, but then if you like miss out on some of the drama, you’re like, that’s what everybody’s talking about.
So what’s what’s going on in the TikTok world? Yeah. Is there anything like going on right now that’s like, that’s popping into your head? I’m trying to think if there’s like a current TikTok drama
Cliffnotes Gal: that’s, oh gosh. Um,
Christa Innis: spot. I just was
Stories She Refuses to Tell
Cliffnotes Gal: like, the most recent video that I did, I think was about a girl who went and tried on a dress at a boutique for a prom dress.
Um, but she actually only came out with her story time because another person posted a video recording because they overheard what was going on in the dressing room next to them. And so, oh, they pressed record recording the conversation in the dressing room next to them. And it was allegedly, it was the owner of the store, kind of like belittling a 17-year-old girl who was trying on a dress.
It was a couture dress, and the owner was telling her, you are too big for it. I don’t want you chew to put it on and ruin my dress. And so that recording came out and that was out for quite a few days. And I guess the girl finally was like, well, I guess I need to say like, Hey, this was me. And now a ton of stuff has come about with this owner.
There was an, I just saw, I was tagged in another story time before you and I got on this podcast. Um, I’m tagged in another story time about the same store. And this is another girl. This is a woman telling a story. Now I think she said she was 35. She had the exact same type of issue at that store and dealt with the owner.
So I haven’t watched her video the full way through, but, um, I get, I get a wide variety of tags from. Stories like that to break up drama to really, really intense things that are triggering. Um, and I’ve, I’ve told people plenty of times and I appreciate the tags, but there are stories that I just will not shorten ones that I feel like are extremely traumatic to the person telling the story.
There was one I was tagged in recently about a woman who was pregnant and I think like her husband tried to like her, um, and his girlfriend was trying to help on a live her. And I was like, whoa,
Christa Innis: gosh.
Cliffnotes Gal: Like I wanted to be like, why are you even tagging me in this? And so I responded to the tag and I was like, this is extremely traumatic for the person who posted this.
I will not be doing this story.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: Um, and I let people know that like, if it is a, a really truly traumatic story for someone, please don’t tag me in it because like. I’m not taking that story from them. They’re probably using this story time as a way of healing for themselves. Yeah. Like I’m not taking that, um, I also will not do, and typically don’t do stories that deal with sa.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: Um, because I’m a survivor myself and I’m a childhood SA survivor, so I had a lot, I had some traumatic things happen to me when I was 12 and 13 years old, but of course it’s still like very much real. Mm-hmm. And it’s affect, it affects me. And so anytime there is a story that deals with SA or physical abuse, um, domestic violence, I typically will not do those either.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Cliffnotes Gal: Um, so yeah. Yeah. I try and focus on the ones that are more lighthearted and sometimes I get tagged on stories. People want me to shorten their own stories ’cause they’re like, look. I’ve got five videos out here. It’s not being pushed out. I really wanna get my story out, but I’m not good at telling a story.
And they actually ask me to do Cliffnotes for their stories. Wow. And so when that happens, I try and do that, and then I try and stay respectful. TikTok has this thing called duets and stitches.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: If their duets or stitches are on, I’m under the assumption that they’re okay with this video being shared or being talked about, or whatever the case.
And so those are stories. If I’m tagged in them and I’m interested in doing it, if their duets or stitches are on, I will normally, I will consider doing that story. If they are off, then I will comment on the person who tagged me, and I will tell them that I’m not doing it because their duets and stitches are off.
So I make sure I have a pinned video on my page that says like, I will only do ones with duets and stitches on. Um, because there are a lot of pages out there that are gossip pages. They could give two shits about if your duets and stitches are on. Um, when you put a video out there, it’s out there.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Cliffnotes Gal: Uh,
Christa Innis: well it’s, it’s wild how like, quickly things travel to, or how quickly things might go viral. Like I’ll notice something. I’m trying to think of what I’ve seen. Like, I mean, the different accounts I follow where maybe someone was really rude at a store. Mm-hmm. And before you know what that person’s face is everywhere that Karen or whatever you wanna call him, and I’m like, oh my gosh.
Like the same day you’ll see ’em on like five accounts and I’m like, they take their video down, but I’m like, Ooh, it’s it, you’re, you put out into the abyss. It’s everywhere now. Um. So it’s, it’s wild how something will get picked up and it’s just like, that was the thing. I mean, it just got on the right person’s FYP or whatever, and they just shared it or someone saw it and they’re like, I need to talk about this.
Yeah. Um, yeah. ’cause that’s, that’s the power of social media I guess.
Cliffnotes Gal: It really is. And I mean, these apps are global, so it might not kick off in the us. Like I have followers that tag me from other countries and it’s crazy because sometimes there’s a really extremely viral video in Canada and all of the tags are from Canadians.
Wow. Like in Canada. And so when I do this, when I’ll do whatever story. Um, then it comes back and people are commenting the US like, this hasn’t been on my FYP. I’m like, well, because it’s in Canada, but it’s still a good story. Like
Christa Innis: Yeah, I know. It’s wild how like, um, like I had Lucette who’s on my podcast and she lives in, she’s in Australia.
And as soon as I had her, then I started getting some more like Australia like videos from Australia on my feed. But it’s like, until then I was like, not, and now I’m like, oh, now I’m kind of in here a little bit. ’cause it kind of sees me like commenting on her stuff. I don’t know what it is.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Um, but yeah, it’s like, you don’t, you don’t necessarily think about that.
But that’s, that’s one of the reasons too, like, I don’t put my child on social media at all. ’cause I’m like, I don’t ever want someone to take her face or, you know, especially, she’s so little and I’m like, she can’t consent to it. And just people don’t think I, when they put their kids on social media, how quickly someone can grab that.
Like, they might be like, oh, this is such a cute moment, post it. Someone can take that and be like, this is weird that this happened. Or look at this in the background. And then their, their kid is everywhere then.
Cliffnotes Gal: My kid is uh, not in my videos. And if he is, it is completely his decision and I do not allow his face to be seen.
So if you ever see him in a video, he is so far in the background that his face is a blur, but he’s back there in the background doing something funny that he has decided to come up with, um, or he’s in a mask. So yeah, his face has never been on my social media. It never will. Even when he is not a minor, it still won’t be, but anytime he is in one, it is because he wants to be.
And he has asked me to be, and he just likes being a little silly goofball in the background. And my husband has done a couple with him as well. Like I remember I did one, I think it was a few months ago, and I was in the backyard of course, telling the story like I normally am. And they’re both in the background sword fighting, I think.
And so my son had a sword, but my husband, I think was using like a broom. And then he fake stabbed him and my son like fell to the ground and then stayed dead the rest of the video. And, and so commenters are, are just like, did anyone see the sword fight back there? Like,
Christa Innis: well, I love that because actually I think one of my first videos I saw you, he was in the background with the mask because I was like, what’s happening here?
And then looking at the comments and everyone’s like, what’s going on? Um, but that’s like the same with like, get ready with me videos when people are telling a story. People love watching and listening and I feel like there’s some kind of like correspondence with like, I don’t know, maybe some kind of fancy word for like a study of like, people love being able to like see and listen at the same time.
And so if there’s something going on, I feel like it, like it grabs their attention too.
Cliffnotes Gal: So I don’t have ADD or ADHD, but I have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of comments from people saying that them either seeing. Gurkin catching the ball or seeing my son in the background playing that it helps them focus more.
They all say they have ADD brain. And being able to see Gurkin catching a ball while listening to me actually helps them. And it’s one of the reasons why they can’t listen to the story times is because it’s someone just looking at a camera telling the story for 30 minutes. So when they can get like a small recap of it and there’s also something going on in the background, they’re able to absorb the information better.
Christa Innis: I love that, that makes so much sense. I’m not diagnosed, but I’m pretty sure I’ve got one, one of those. My,
Cliffnotes Gal: I would never be able to watch a dog catching a ball and focus on a story because I would just wanna keep watching the dog. Uh, so I, I can’t understand that, but
Christa Innis: oh, I’m like, I, if there’s two things going on, I’ll like then go back and be like, wait, what did she do with her makeup there?
What would she, with her eyes there? Or, I’ll kind of go back, but like, yeah, I, I think that’s probably why I started doing skits because like I’m like, I need to tell these stories in like an interesting different kind of storytelling way, but yeah, stories nonetheless. Okay, so I know before we get to our main story, I know you said you have a wedding related story that happened at your own wedding.
So do you wanna talk
She Passed Out at Her Own Wedding!
Cliffnotes Gal: Oh, yes. So, uh, this year I will be married 19 years to my husband.
Christa Innis: Awesome.
Cliffnotes Gal: Um, he and I got married, yeah. A long time ago, but, so I’m a diabetic and, uh, we got married at the worst time ever in the state of Louisiana. We got married in the summertime in June with an outdoor wedding. Oh my God.
Uh, I don’t recommend to anybody to do that. Uh, I ate well before the wedding to like manage my sugar levels, so that was great. But while we were up there saying our vows, we were holding hands and I looked down at our hands and realized that like our four hands turned into like 20, and I was seeing like quadruple of everything.
Christa Innis: Oh.
Cliffnotes Gal: And so I looked up as my, as our pastor was talking, like marrying us literally. And I looked up at him and I went, I think I’m about to pass out. That was all that I remembered. Oh. So I know what happens because it’s on video. Um, but I did, so I pass out and, um, I remember my maid of honor who is still my absolute best friend today, uh, in the video, it shows her telling someone like, you need, oh, telling my husband, like, you need to, you need to pick her up and walk off with her.
Like, she’s passed out. ’cause he was just frozen, like,
Christa Innis: what happened?
Cliffnotes Gal: And so because like he caught me, like I just, I fell and he caught me and is just holding me. And so my friend Lauren’s like, you need to go with her. Like, get her out of here. And so it’s, it’s all on video. He carries me out and I think brings me to the bridal suite where we were getting married.
And I, and they woke me up somehow, but my sugar level had dropped like. Really, really, really low. That mixed with like the heat and being nervous and all of that. So they got me some food and, uh, all of that. And then, um, everything else was a blur that night. Like I do not remember my first dance with my husband.
Um, I don’t remember. I definitely don’t remember saying my vows. Uh, I do remember signing the actual marriage certificate itself, but I joke with my husband, I’m like, babe, we’re gonna have to renew our vows like at 20 years because I don’t remember saying them to you. And so I would, I would like to remember saying my vows to you, but yeah.
So yeah, we
Christa Innis: hold you over.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. I had the typical like, pass out at your wedding story.
Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. That’s one I have not heard. I love that you guys have it on video and you’re like, well, let’s watch our video this year.
Cliffnotes Gal: And it’s on VHS. So now I actually, I don’t even own a tape player, so I wouldn’t, I need to, I need to do that little thing where you can have it sent in and turned into like a DVD or something.
Christa Innis: Yeah,
Cliffnotes Gal: yeah, yeah.
Christa Innis: Kids watch it. Um, that’s, oh my gosh, that’s wild. So like, so even after your blood sugar went up, then you were still just kind of like in a daze the rest of the day.
Cliffnotes Gal: Oh yeah. Yeah. And anyone who’s a diabetic would understand, like, you’re just so, it’s like it’s brain fog. And so I, I’m almo like I know I danced, I just don’t remember it.
Um,
Christa Innis: oh my gosh.
Cliffnotes Gal: And I remember sitting down and eating some food at like our table for the wedding party, but, oh, and I do, I remember this as well when we left. So we had a limo bring us to New Orleans because we were gonna fly out the next day to go to Mexico for our honeymoon. Um, and. I had a, like pulsating migraine because again, a diabetic will understand, like when you go extremely low and you have to get your sugar levels back up, you just don’t feel good.
It takes, it takes a while for you to be able to just feel good. And I had this horrible, horrible migraine and so we had the limo get off the interstate and pull into this like shady ass gas station and pulls up. Uh, there were not a lot of lights on at this gas station. My husband gets out in his tucks and goes in and buys like one of the gas station packs of Excedrin Migraine for me, and then comes back into the limo and gives it to me.
And I slept the whole way to New Orleans in the limo.
Christa Innis: Oh.
Cliffnotes Gal: Uh, and then by the time we got to the hotel, I felt better, but yeah, I literally slept the whole way to New Orleans, which is about like a 50 minute drive.
Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. So how was your honeymoon? Where like, did you feel
Cliffnotes Gal: better? It was good. I remember that.
Christa Innis: Oh, good. Okay. Well, there you go.
Cliffnotes Gal: It was good. It was fun. Yeah. It was the typical, like all inclusive. Like we couldn’t afford a lot back, back then. Like we were in very, very different, uh, different lives back then, but we, we did what we could and had so much fun. Yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I love that. I love the all inclusive route.
That just makes it easier too, for planning and budget. We did that too. It was
Cliffnotes Gal: so easy. Yeah. I tell, I tell everyone, I’m like, I wish we would’ve just eloped the amount of money that my mom who raised me as a single mom, uh, that she had to spend. And we tried. We stayed under budget, like extremely under budget, but I still, I was like, to this day, I think back, I’m like, I wish I would’ve just told her.
Don’t even worry about it.
Christa Innis: Aw. I know. I feel like it’s like, I feel like as the older I get too, like people like looking back, like their, your circle kind of gets smaller and you’re also just like, maybe I just like, it’d be easier. ’cause the people too that spend all this money on these big parties, I feel like a lot of times it’s because like families wanna be a part of it or, you know, and then a lot of these stories as you’ll, you might see in this one, but like, then it just creates drama in a lot of these, a lot of these families.
Yeah. And I, I always say like, my husband and I got married in our early thirties, but we’d been together since like our early twenties. And I was like, if we’d gotten married in our twenties, I think it’d been such a way, like we would’ve not had, we would’ve had way less, less money. But I feel like we would’ve tried to have a bigger par, you know, a bigger party.
Yeah. And invite more people. So I feel like we were able to like, okay, these are more important people to us, but older
Cliffnotes Gal: and wiser.
Christa Innis: But I feel like if, again, if it was like 10 more years later, I think it would’ve been even smaller. I think you just kinda like realize like, okay, who’s been around a little bit longer and
Cliffnotes Gal: That’s right.
Christa Innis: Plus there’s been some amazing elopement stories I’ve heard where they go to like Paris or they go to, you know, somewhere cool and they, you spend the same amount or That’s right. Way less for a week trip or whatever.
Cliffnotes Gal: Then have some have like a little party in your backyard when you get back and that’s your reception.
Christa Innis: Yeah, exactly. Lots of, lots of options.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah.
The Engagement Story: The Family Dynamic Drama
Christa Innis: All right, so we don’t go over time. Let’s get into this week’s, uh, story submission. So these are stories that are sent to me from followers and I’ve not read it. So let’s get into it. Feel free to stop me at any time and we’ll react. Okay, here we go. My sister is a narcissist and honestly, my mother might be too.
To surprise me, my fiance messaged my mother to ask for my ring size and for my dad’s blessing. My mother went out and bought a ring herself and told him that my father was happy for him to move forward. Like a business exchange? No, like I don’t, we don’t want your input. We’ll just buy the ring.
Cliffnotes Gal: Oh, no.
Okay.
Christa Innis: Yikes. Two weeks later, we flew to Luxembourg to visit my parents at their holiday home. On the second day, my fiance asked my mom for the ring, so she knew he planned to propose that day. We told her we were going to the waterfall and would be back later. I had no idea what was coming. The moment he proposed, my mother suddenly showed up with her friends and my father all cheering.
The quiet romantic moment my fiance had planned was completely gone. That evening he told me to get ready for dinner, but before we could leave, my mother stopped us. She had already set up a surprise engagement party with her friends in champagne.
Cliffnotes Gal: Come on, mom.
Christa Innis: Like, why would you not even think to like talk to the fiance?
Cliffnotes Gal: That’s because mom only cares about the way that she looks to her friends.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my gosh. She’s like calling her friends like, just wait. We’re gonna have the best party. Like a full blown argument broke out. But we ended up canceling our dinner plans and attending the party. So now it’s like, not even for you, it’s for your mom.
Right. After the guests left, we started talking about wedding locations. When I mentioned Hawaii, another fight erupted. They said they could never afford it. The night ended badly, and the next day we barely spoke. After two days of silence, we decided to travel with them to Belgium, where I grew up, to share the news with friends.
My brother and sister were happy at first, but within two weeks my sister started trying to seduce my fiance. What is this family? Okay, what?
Cliffnotes Gal: Okay, what’s up with the family now? Now I’m like,
Christa Innis: this is very odd. This is what, this is a
Cliffnotes Gal: real story.
Christa Innis: I tell you. Sometimes I read these stories and I’m like, this cannot be real.
Like,
Cliffnotes Gal: oh my gosh,
Christa Innis: some are just outrageous. But then I’ll post a story or like I’ll share, you know, story time. If people are like, this happened to me, this exact thing happened to me, and I’m like, I don’t think they’re as, I think they’re more common than we think. It’s wild. Um, telling him that she was the better option.
We ended up staying for a month. I’d be out of there a month still after that, a
Cliffnotes Gal: month. Do they not work?
Christa Innis: I, I know they’re doing all this traveling, but then the mom was mad that they wanted Hawaii. Not enough money
Cliffnotes Gal: for Hawaii.
Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my gosh. Not enough. Because it wasn’t a place she selected as, as a wife, right?
Yes.
Cliffnotes Gal: Right.
Bridal Shop Body-Shaming
Christa Innis: We ended up staying for a month because my mother promised to pay for the wedding dress and booked appointments at bridal shops. I said, I didn’t wanna bring my sister, but I was manipulated into it with the whole, with the whole family as family. Guilt trip. Yikes. At the first stop, at the first shop, the saleswoman told me my body wasn’t made for fitted dresses.
My gosh. After trying on 10 dresses, I hated and hearing nonstop comments from my sister and mother about how I looked fat. Why I would not be including well either of
them.
Cliffnotes Gal: That’s just toxic. You don’t even, they shouldn’t even be in the wedding.
Christa Innis: No. Or
Cliffnotes Gal: at the wedding.
Christa Innis: This is definitely a story where, I mean, I don’t know what happens, but, or it’d be like, let’s just elope.
Right. Where do, where does your family wanna go? Let’s,
Cliffnotes Gal: like, I would hope that the husband is saying like, look babe, let’s just, let’s just go do this thing with just us.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Yeah. The second someone starts making you feel bad, especially when it’s supposed to be like your day trying on dresses, feeling beautiful.
I’d be like, I’m done with this. Like, I’ll go with a friend or go by myself later,
Cliffnotes Gal: a hundred percent.
Christa Innis: Um, they were saying, or I showed too much skin or looked bad. I finally said I wanted to leave at the second shop. I found my dress within minutes and started crying. My father seemed completely unbothered and asked how I planned to pay for it.
I was confused and that’s when my mother said, they don’t have the 690 euro after. Yeah. That’s Euro after all. So they get her excited, say they’re gonna pay for the dress she finds when they’re like, oh, we don’t have the money for it. And I wonder, wow. In 690, I mean, I’m trying to think of like the calculation, but.
That doesn’t seem very expensive for a dress, 690 Euros, because I think it’s like,
Cliffnotes Gal: I don’t know what the conversion rate is right now. Um,
Christa Innis: I feel like it was pretty close, like when I was just in, I was in Spain a couple years ago and
Cliffnotes Gal: yeah, I mean, it seems like the price of like an average. I mean, I think my golly, my wedding dress back then was like $400, $500, something like that.
But man, this is just toxic.
Fiancé to the Rescue
Christa Innis: Yeah. Wild. Um, she says, I ran out of the, outta the shop crying and went to the cafe where my fiance was waiting. I told him everything without hesitation. He marched into the store, bought the dress without seeing it, booked us a hotel and said we’d figure out everything ourselves.
Cliffnotes Gal: Love
Christa Innis: it. Yay.
Cliffnotes Gal: Good husband.
Christa Innis: Good man,
Cliffnotes Gal: good husband.
Christa Innis: Two days later, we returned to my parents’ house and my mother exploded. She was angry that we bought the dress without telling her. Uh, and said it was unfair because they never had a big wedding. So she’s now kept trying to control it because they didn’t have the wedding they wanted or something.
Um, she also claimed my father never gave his blessing. My father agreed with her and said he could never trust anyone with his beloved daughter.
Cliffnotes Gal: Okay.
Christa Innis: A massive fight broke out and we ended up flying home. Once we were home, everyone was, everyone there was happy for us, but my heart was breaking because my own family didn’t accept us.
In January, my mom finally called and said she needed the wedding date and location so she could book time off or they wouldn’t come at all. My father is still refusing, wait, so this is happening right now? She said, my father,
Cliffnotes Gal: I was about to say like, this is now.
Christa Innis: Because sometimes people will like send a story and then they’ll be like, oh, that was 20 years ago.
We’re happily married. Yeah. So I wasn’t sure. But yeah, it says my father is still refusing to walk me down the aisle. If we have a wedding, we, if we have a wedding weekend, that’s the short version of part one. I’ll write a part two when you’re ready.
Cliffnotes Gal: Wait, I wanna know if the wedding happened yet.
Christa Innis: I know. I need to find out.
Cliffnotes Gal: And where are they located? Are they like in the us?
Christa Innis: I’m wondering if they’re in the US and then they traveled. They traveled to Belgium where they bought the dress.
Cliffnotes Gal: Damn. If old girl is like anywhere near me, within driving distance, she needs to invite me to the wedding and I will be there in a heartbeat.
And I’ll make sure her reception is a blast.
Christa Innis: Yes. Oh my gosh. That’d be so fun. We’re like, we’re coming here wedding.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yes. Yeah. I wanna know if it happened. Yeah. You need the part two.
Christa Innis: Yes. I know. I wasn’t expecting it for it to end like that. Um. I feel like, I like the way this is going, in the way that her boundaries have been really good.
Like her boundaries are firm. Her fiance’s backing her up. ’cause I feel like in a lot of these stories, we don’t hear about the fiance or how he’s like supporting his wife, whether it’s a mother-in-law or not. Um, and so I feel like it’s really good that she has him. And so I’m hoping like they stick firm on their boundaries and are either like, if the, and the mom’s calling like, okay, when’s the date?
This is their chance to be like,
Cliffnotes Gal: no,
Christa Innis: you know, we’re not gonna give you the date
Cliffnotes Gal: No.
Christa Innis: And do our own thing.
Cliffnotes Gal: No, this sounds like as much as it sucks like mom and dad, it doesn’t seem like it’s beneficial to have them in your adult life right now.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: Like, it does not seem like there is anything positive that is coming from that relationship.
And if there is not, like, and this is for friendships too, like if it’s not positive and bringing you joy, then why have it?
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: That’s why people write off their parents sometimes.
Christa Innis: Yeah. And anyone that’s like family is family or blood is thicker than water.
Cliffnotes Gal: No,
Christa Innis: I think they’re using that as like a manipulative tactic because mm-hmm.
Obviously they could tell that she’s like, this isn’t right, this isn’t how family should treat me. And so they’re gonna try to manipulate you. And that’s why people stay in like toxic family relationships for so long because they’re like, well, it is family. Okay. Like, but no one deserves to be treated that way.
Especially like when she’s so happy and,
Cliffnotes Gal: yeah. Yeah. I mean, it would be different if they’re like, look, we don’t want you getting married because like this man is horrible for you and does like horrible things, but it’s not sound like that’s the case, or at least we haven’t heard that. Um, I am so glad that he stepped up and did something though.
Because you hear stories. Yeah. Like all the time. But normally it’s like the. Spouse’s parent acts a certain way towards the bride.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: And the spouse never stands up for his bride.
Christa Innis: Yes.
Cliffnotes Gal: Um, so this is even more impressive that he’s standing up for her against his own in-laws or future in-laws.
Christa Innis: Yes. No, that’s such a good point.
’cause I would say like 75% of the stories I get where it’s like a bride and her mother-in-law, there’s no mention of the fiance in the story. Agree. So, like, when I like act ’em out as skits, I kind of just like will like, you know, put him in there. And sometimes, sometimes, but when I actually read the story, I’m like, guys, I don’t know where he’s at in this.
Like, it’s no mention like, mother-in-laws will corner the bride and they’ll all these things will happen. Um, and so my advice is to those brides is always, he needs to be the one to Yeah. To talk to the mom and address her. Yeah. Um, so yeah, the fact that he’s like creating a blockade to her own family, I think is really showing a healthy like boundary that they’re setting.
Cliffnotes Gal: Um, I agree
No Peace, No Plate
Christa Innis: agree. Yeah. What, what advice would you give her at this, at this point, about like, mom calling?
Cliffnotes Gal: Well, I don’t, I feel like I have to be limited on the advice to provide because I don’t know the rest of the story. Yeah. If it were me, which it, it’s hard and would take a lot of courage if that was my parents acting that way, I, they wouldn’t be going to the wedding.
Like, yeah, I don’t need that at my wedding at all. And I say this because a family member of mine who her spouse’s family was not super accepting of her, um, because she was not able to have children. Mm-hmm. And his family wanted him to have children of his own. And she already had two children from a prior marriage.
They treated her like absolute crap. And at their wedding. The best man was the groom’s brother, and he was supposed to like do the whole like, I think catch the garter or help take the garter off or whatever it is, like the groom takes the garter off. I don’t know if that’s a southern thing, but Yeah. Um, but the best man is there and then there’s like a dance with the best man.
Well, when the announcement came on for the DJ saying like, Hey, bride and best man, and then groom and maid of honor come out to the dance floor, best man stood her up, didn’t go on the dance floor to dance with her, and then they left. Um, why do you want people like that at your wedding? Now granted she didn’t know this was gonna happen at their wedding.
Like if she would’ve known that, she would’ve said like, I don’t want them coming. But like, that’s what you lead yourself to happen. You have someone toxic like that. If you break down and tell them, Hey, here’s the date they’re going to try and find a way to make that wedding about themselves. Because they’ve not proven otherwise.
So don’t even, don’t even have them there. That’s my advice. They don’t need to be there. They haven’t proven that they’re worthy enough to be there.
Christa Innis: Totally. I think it’s like we wanna continually give chances, especially for family or people we’ve known for a long time. But like the way she started out, the story was saying like, my mom’s a narcissist and I’m pretty sure my sister is too.
Or whatever order it was. Um, you know, you have that gut feeling like, mm-hmm ooh, someone’s gonna wreck my day. And you don’t wanna go into your wedding day. You wanna be go into your wedding day and be like, oh, my favorite people are here. I’m so excited. I’m a princess, or whatever. You know, your vibe is, but like, you know, that gut feeling like just in general of like, if you’re going somewhere where maybe you don’t get along with someone, or there’s drama that like feeling where like something’s gonna happen and you don’t want that on that day.
So I completely agree with you. It’s like you need to be firm with your boundaries now and. Maybe it’s a time to elope and take a fun trip with your fiance. That’s right. Don’t them hanging money over your head.
Cliffnotes Gal: People that use weddings and the attendees as like a business transaction. Oh, well they know my dad because they worked with him 20 years ago, so I need to invite them.
No, you don’t. No, you don’t. If they’re not in your life right now, do they know your date of birth?
Christa Innis: Right.
Cliffnotes Gal: If they don’t know your birthday, they don’t need to be there.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Yes. Oh my gosh, yes. Like I, I feel so lucky that I didn’t have like parents come in and be like, here, here’s my coworkers. I wanna invited to the wedding.
Like they, I was like, you tell me your close friends that you wanted to come to the wedding, that’s totally fine. Um, but I hear stories where it’s literally like. Someone they met as a baby and Right. They’re like, haven’t seen ’em in the last 25 years. And their mom’s like, here invite Susan from 20 years ago.
And they’re like, I have no relationship with them. Mm-hmm. And then they’ll get mad because they’re like, well, why wouldn’t you let me invite my friends? But, um, yeah.
Cliffnotes Gal: Well, and then the threat comes out, oh, well I’m paying for the wedding, so.
Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.
Cliffnotes Gal: You need to invite them. I’m paying for it.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Cliffnotes Gal: Thanks for the threat.
Christa Innis: And that’s where I’m confused with these people too. ’cause it’s like, oh, they say we can’t afford Hawaii. So are they assuming that they’re supposed to pay for it? But now they’re saying they can’t pay for the dress, so they’re, they sound like they’re just gonna try to hold money over your head.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I’m wanna hear
Cliffnotes Gal: part two.
Wedding Confessions & Regrets
Christa Innis: Yeah. I’m gonna reach out to her and see if we can get a part two. All right. Um, I always like to end these with some confessions that people send me on Instagram. So let’s read these. These are, let’s see, what’s a decision you regret not speaking up about? Oh, um, this person says, my in-laws were inviting people behind our backs to our wedding.
They didn’t say anything. I, that’s hard. I, I had a etiquette expert on here a while back and I asked her like, what you do in that situation? And she’s like, it’s hard when someone’s already invited ’cause you don’t know, like, like what they were told and like how to contact them. And so that like adds a whole new layer of like complication.
’cause it’s like if you just show up on the wedding day,
Cliffnotes Gal: right? Like, I mean, again, weddings can happen in a totally different way now, but I’m used to like, you send the card in the mail, they RSVP and send it back. And that’s how you check off how many people are gonna be in attendance because you have to provide those numbers and you get charged per head.
I don’t know if that’s still the same case, but like, yeah. If people being invited behind the scenes and they’re not included in that headcount, don’t you pay more? Per head if they’re not in the original numbers.
Christa Innis: Prob yeah, probably. They’ll probably see it. There’s more people there and, um, yeah, I mean that’s pretty much all the same.
Like sometimes it’s more digital now, but other than that it’s, they’re still counting it the same way. And that tells me that there’s someone that hasn’t hosted an event before or been part of it to know like you can’t have extra people.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Um, this says inviting some people I wanted and went with a smaller venue instead.
Um, the, I’m talking about garter. The whole garter thing. I didn’t want it at all, but I kept getting told it was tradition.
Cliffnotes Gal: Uh huh. Yeah.
Christa Innis: I didn’t do it at my wedding. I was like,
Cliffnotes Gal: shit, that person must be from the south.
Christa Innis: I mean, they most what I feel like they do ’em out here, but like most weddings I’ve been to in recent times, I haven’t seen it.
Um, but I feel like it’s like maybe more, more religious weddings. I don’t know.
Cliffnotes Gal: Where are you at?
Christa Innis: I’m in Wisconsin.
Cliffnotes Gal: Okay. Do y’all do money dances as well? ’cause we do money dances.
Christa Innis: I’ve been to a couple weddings, but it’s not like very common.
Cliffnotes Gal: Okay, alright.
Christa Innis: Yeah.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. We do two different types of money dance, either, um, you have like a little sash as the bride and the money is put into the sash or you carry around a boot and Oh.
Money gets put into a boot.
Christa Innis: Okay.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah.
Christa Innis: Yeah. I, yeah, I know there’s so many like, interesting traditions. I think the one time I saw the wedding dance was like maybe going on 10 years ago now. Okay. So yeah, it’s been a while.
Cliffnotes Gal: Hmm. Okay.
Christa Innis: Um, all right, I’ll do two more. Um, letting my dad bring his girlfriend who was his mistress because I feared he wouldn’t come.
He left early anyway. Oh, that’s one of those gut things, right? Like that’s you, you want it to work ’cause you want your dad there, but.
Cliffnotes Gal: But was your, your mom is still married to him, so he,
Christa Innis: that’s where I’m like, I don’t Yeah.
Cliffnotes Gal: Isn’t a mistress. You’re still married and your mistress is like, who you’re cheating on your wife with, right?
Christa Innis: Yeah. Unless she meet. Well, yeah. I’m guessing it could be like they’re now divorced, but that’s the one he cheated on. Which either way that’s awkward if your mom’s there.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. That’s weird.
Christa Innis: I would be like, don’t come.
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah. Yeah.
Christa Innis: Um, let’s see. Not telling my brother to end his relationship earlier, love his ex, but they were not compatible.
Cliffnotes Gal: Okay.
Christa Innis: Because that’s not wedding related, but that’s, that’s just a regret. People are just confessing to me. All right. Well awesome. Well thank you so much for coming on. That was,
Cliffnotes Gal: yes, thank
Christa Innis: you. Glad story. Can you tell everyone where they can find your content, follow you for more, um, cliff notes and um, and learn more about you?
Anything fun you’re working on?
Cliffnotes Gal: Yeah, so you can find me on, um, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, which I don’t post a lot on there, but all of them, the handle is the Cliffnotes gal. And, um, I just ask followers, keep bringing me the stories, tag me in anything that you need shortened, and um, I’ll shorten ’em up for y’all.
Awesome. Well, thanks so much. Thank you!
