Excluded Stepdaughters, A Cancelled Wedding, and One Hell of a Party with Kath Jones

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Your fiancé calls off your wedding SEVEN DAYS before the big day. What do you do?!

If you’re Kath Jones, you put on your white outfit, call your people, go to Tuscany, and HAVE THE PARTY ANYWAY.

In this episode, we talked about the moment her six-and-a-half-year relationship came crashing down, how she leaned on her family and friends, and why she refused to let one person’s decision ruin an entire week she had been looking forward to. 

Then we spiral into one of the WILDEST family wedding stories involving an “evil stepmom,” multiple marriages, excluded children, financial drama, and TEN uninvited Mormon missionaries. Plus: bachelorette costs, bridesmaid expectations, kid-free weddings, and why your girlfriends might actually be your soulmates.

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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• The Groom Calls It Off – Seven Days Before the Wedding: Kath reveals what happened when her fiancé told her he didn’t think they should get married just one week before their Tuscany wedding.
• The Wedding Was Canceled… Sort Of – Instead of throwing away months of planning, Kath decided the celebration would go ahead without the groom. The wedding became one unforgettable party with her closest friends and family.
• Taking Back the Power – Kath explains why creating content, laughing with her friends, and sharing her story helped her process what happened—and why she refused to carry the shame.
• The Village Matters – Kath and Christa talk about the importance of maintaining friendships and family relationships instead of disappearing into a romantic relationship.
• The Fourth Wedding, Fifth Wedding Drama – Christa and Kath react to a wild story involving a bride who excluded her new husband’s daughters from the wedding—and apparently had much bigger plans for isolating the family.
• Ten Uninvited Wedding Guests?! – Just when the wedding story couldn’t get stranger, TEN Mormon missionaries show up and start grabbing plates of food.
• Bachelorette Drama & Big Bills – The pair discuss outrageous bachelorette expectations, including being asked to spend thousands on accommodations—and why you can simply say NO.
• Kid-Free Means Kid-Free – Christa and Kath tackle the never-ending debate over child-free weddings and why couples should be allowed to set the rules for their own celebration.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

• “No, I’m not letting it go to waste. Like, this is my life, too. I’m gonna enjoy it.” – Christa Innis
• “You need your girlfriends, you need your friends, you need other people other than your partner.” – Christa Innis
• “Like, when people tell a story from their perspective, they make themselves sound a little bit better, right?” – Christa Innis
• “No one is making you. If you’re not close enough to them that you wanna go to their bachelorette, just say no.” – Christa Innis
• “A wedding is NOT the time to critique the couple, talk about how your wedding was better, or complain about their choices.” – Christa Innis
• “I wasn’t gonna let all these nice outfits go to waste because of you.” – Kath Jones
• “Why ruin it for everyone else as well when I know that I have the power to let everyone still come and have a great time?” – Kath Jones
• “We’re not to blame here. Why should we be ashamed? Why should we curl up in a corner because of something a man’s done to us?” – Kath Jones
• “Don’t lose your friends when you get in a relationship.” – Kath Jones
• “Girlfriends are your soulmates, and then everyone else is just to have fun with.” – Kath Jones

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Seven Days Before The Wedding… He Said What?! 

Christa Innis: Hi, Kath. Thank you for being here.

Kath Jones: Hello. Hi, thank you for having me.

Christa Innis: I’m so excited to chat with you. Your sto- I kind of just wanna jump right in. Your story went viral- Yes … because, um, about a week before your wedding, you and your groom broke up, presumably, and you ended up having your wedding as a day to, like, celebrate and hang out with your friends and your family.

Um, anyway, which turned into, like, this amazing viral moment that I feel like has inspired so many people. Mm-hmm. So jumping right in, can you talk a little bit more about what happened and, um, just sharing your, your part of the story?

Kath Jones: Yeah, of course. So I had been with my ex-partner for six and a half years.

We got engaged after five years. So we began planning the wedding af- relatively quickly after the engagement. Um, and, you know, it was all exciting times, I suppose. We had a bit of a rocky patch in December last year, so December 2025, because I had hit burnout in terms of work. So I run three businesses.

Wow. And so I was just very, very burnt out, and I was working too much, and I was very stressed. But also, a lot of things happened in terms of, like, people had stolen money from me. I had a fraudulent investor try and come on board. And so there was just a lot of things that happened, uh, consecutively that really made me quite miserable, to be honest.

Mm-hmm.

And I think that during that period of me being that way- Um, it became rocky between us. Mm-hmm. And so we had a serious conversation in December last year, and I, I was just like, “I feel like I’m not supported, and I feel like, you know, we’re not, you know, the way we once were, like very in love, very looking out for one another, and I feel like I’m alone basically.”

Mm-hmm.

And he basically agreed and said, like, “You know, I do feel the same. I feel like we’ve lost our connection a little bit. Um, however, obviously we’re getting married in seven months, so let’s get this back on track. Let’s spend more time together. Let’s completely just … You know, let’s work on ourselves and each other and put effort into, you know, coming back together.”

And so that’s what we did. We literally, we went on so many vacations. We went to, um, we went to Spain. We went to Italy. We went wine tasting. We obviously went venue, looking at venues. Um, and we really spent more time together and put a lot more effort in with one another.

Mm-hmm.

And so in my opinion, and genuinely he’d never said another thing about it and neither had I- Everything was back on track and fine.

So obviously to hear seven days before the wedding day that actually he didn’t feel the same as I did.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.

Kath Jones: And he felt like … He basically said that he just felt like since that conversation in December, things hadn’t improved much, while as I felt like it had improved massively. He didn’t feel that way.

And o- obviously my question was, “Why did you never think to raise this before seven days before our wedding?”

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Kath Jones: Yeah. So basically what happened was I was com- not … Like, we were completely fine. He went on his stag do or bachelor, whatever you wanna call that. Mm-hmm. Um, and that was in early July, and we were getting married on the 31st of July.

And when he came back from that, he was just a little bit cold towards me. Mm-hmm. And I just put it down to nerves. I just thought, you know, oh, you know, you, you obviously … ‘Cause he’s quite shy really, and, um, I thought he doesn’t wanna be center of attention. Like, it i- it is kind of a big deal. It’s approaching thick and fast.

And also he’s drunk a lot, so he’s probably a bit, you know, anxious you’ve drunk too much, et cetera.

Mm-hmm.

So I just put it down to that. Um, but he was definitely a bit cold to me. Then I went on a r- a retreat, and the retreat was to try and lose a bit of weight and also just to get a bit more zen in my own head before the wedding.

Yeah.

When I came back from the retreat, he just, like, very coldly took my luggage from me and was like, “I’m going to bed. I’m tired.” And I was like, “What’s wrong? Are you okay?” And he was like, “I’m just tired.” And there was no, like, greeting. How are you? How was it? Missed you, et cetera. So I could sense obviously something was wrong, but he wouldn’t tell me, and I asked.

And then the next day he was up and out for work really early. He didn’t get home from work until very late.

Mm.

And so when he came home, I asked him outright, I said, “Tell me now, what, what’s going on? What’s wrong?” Yeah, he, he just said, “I, I just don’t think we should get married.” And I was like, “What do you mean? We’re getting married in seven days. You’re surely not saying this.” And he was like, “Yeah, I just

I feel like, you know, since December we haven’t been completely happy. There’s still more to work on. Um, and I, I just don’t think we should get married.” And I was like, “Do you realize that 50 people have flights booked, have booked holidays from work? Have … Like, do you realize how much money we’ve spent on this wedding?

D- … Like, surely, surely you’re not being serious.” And then he, he just couldn’t even look at me. Like, as he was having this conversation, he was avoiding my eye contact. Every question I asked, he just dodged. He wasn’t answering. Obviously, I started asking the usual questions such as, “Are you having an affair?”

Mm. “Have you cheated on me? Like, uh, what, what has happened here?” And he was just like, “No, no, it’s not that. It’s not that.” So he’s den- denied that and he still does deny that. I don’t know for sure, but I do know that after that stag do he was definitely cold. So whether it’s a case of- he’s done something or, or wanted to do something and felt guilty and realized that marriage wasn’t right.

I’m not entirely sure because even to this day, I don’t really have any answers because he didn’t really ever provide answers. And it’s funny now because on social media, you know, uh, I’m, I’ve got my following now is like 96% women. Mm-hmm. So most of them are very nice. But you know, the odd man who comes on says, “What’s his side of the story?”

And I’m like, “Well, he, he hasn’t even told me his side of the story, so I don’t think he’s gonna tell you.”

Christa Innis: Right.

Kath Jones: I don’t think he’s interested in telling you, you know- Yeah … Tom from Timbuktu- Right … what his side of the story is if he’s not even gonna tell me what his- Right … side of the story is. So we don’t know what his side of the story is to even give, so yeah, you just get my side.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. That’s what we get. Yeah. And so, like, what was… I’m sure so many things were going through your mind in that moment, like, a- and especially when you think about, yeah, all the planning that went into it and, like, the money you’ve spent. So was your initial reaction like, “Oh my gosh, we have to cancel this wedding,” or like, “What are we gonna do?

What are our next steps?” Uh, like, what do you even do at that point?

Cancel The Wedding? Absolutely Not. 

Kath Jones: I, I don’t think there was ever a moment that I thought about canceling it. I think because I, obviously I’d put all this effort in, I knew exactly what was happening, and I knew exactly that every penny had been spent, and we were not gonna get anything back at this stage because, you know, it’s seven days before.

Every vendor’s been paid. The venue’s been paid. Th- the likelihood of us getting money back was next to nothing. Mm-hmm. So I don’t really think there was a, a moment in time where I even thought about canceling it. I thought, “We’ll go ahead with this without you.” Um, and that was a, a- an almost an immediate thought.

Um, obviously that is, that comes, by the way, after like the devastation, the rolling around crying. I genuinely considered begging him. Like, I did consider that. Mm-hmm. Because I thought, “I can probably persuade him if I, you know… Like, if we sit down, have a big conversation, like, like cry, whatever, I can probably persuade him.”

But throughout that evening, I just thought to myself, “I’m, I’m not, I’m not going to. I’m not gonna even beg. I’m not gonna ask. I’m not.” Because the fact is, I would be walking down that aisle on what should be the happiest day of my life feeling like a fraud. Mm-hmm. And that’s just not me. It’s not me to, to do that.

Mm-hmm. I am… I could, I couldn’t have hold, held it in. I would have told someone or something and, you know, it would have, it only would have led to divorce anyway. So by the time I’d tossed and turned in bed all night, I was very kind of set that, like, this wedding isn’t happening, end of. Mm-hmm.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Kath Jones: So by the time the morning came around, um, I, I’d made the decision anyway that, like, that, that was it.

And he actually said to me, ’cause he was going to work away, he works away quite often, and he said to me, um, “Oh, I’m, you know, I’m going to work away. D- let’s not make any decisions until I’m back.” So he was going for three days, so I thought, “What? You want me to sit here with this information on my own doing nothing with it until you return and you decide what you want to do?”

And I thought, “Absolutely not, no.” So I said, “No way.” I said, “I’ll be telling my mom right now.” And anyway, that’s what I did. And it’s one of those things, like no matter what your age is, like the minute you tell your mom it’s kind of like that, that’s it, isn’t it? You just- She’s already messed

Christa Innis: up. Yeah …

Kath Jones: yeah, yeah.

That’s, that’s it. You can’t, you can’t come back from that, can you, once you’ve told your mom?

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.

Kath Jones: So anyway, I phoned my mom and I told her, and she came round, and she came round with my sister. And obviously I was just crying and just explaining what had happened, and they were just shocked, like so, so, so shell-shocked.

We all were. Everyone was just, like, completely- taken aback. Um, and so I, once I told them, I said, like, “We’re still going ahead with the wedding. Like, it’s just gonna not be a wedding, but it’s gonna be a party,” I said, “because everyone can’t lose the money on the flights. They can’t lose the time that they’ve booked off.

Like, and I also, we’re not getting any money back anyway, so we’re doing it.” And they were just like, “Okay, if you’re sure, then absolutely.” And so really while I was kind of sat there on a couch crying, they were the ones who actually picked up the phone and phoned everyone and explained everything and made all the changes that were necessary.

Um, and they were the ones who handled that while I was obviously very distraught, and I just spent the week pulling myself together really, and just being like, “Let’s cry out all the tears that we can now. Ready to just get out…” I just knew as well, once I was out the country, I was gonna feel better-

Mm-hmm

to be, like, removed from him. Um, and so yeah, that, that’s what we did. We worked on what we were gonna do, and then we, uh, yeah, we just reset it from a wedding to a party.

Well… If We’re Going To Tuscany, We Might As Well Party. 

Christa Innis: I love that. So, um, what were the biggest, like, changes that, like, when they called and made some changes, or called, like, the venue, I presume, like, what kind of changes did they make to kind of make it more to, like, a, just a big party celebration?

Kath Jones: To be honest, there was not many changes made apart from, like, the ceremony itself. Obviously, we no longer needed to have a ceremony, so we no longer needed the church. We no longer needed, um, anyone to host the ceremony. But most other things, ’cause it was, like, a welcome dinner, that remained the same. It was just a case of changing the playlist.

So instead of, like, romantic love songs, we had party vibe songs. But the f- you know, the, the plans for that night remained exactly the same. Even the next day for the wedding day, you know, we all got ready as a family, like me and my sisters, my auntie, my mom, we all got ready. We still got our makeup done, our hair done.

We still got pictures. Everything kind of remained as normal. The only difference was I didn’t wear my wedding dress, even though people thought that the dress I had on was my wedding dress. Yeah. That was actually gonna… It was either, I would either change into that in the night if I was too hot, or I was gonna wear it the next day.

But it wasn’t my wedding dress. But I was like, “I’m not gonna let all these nice outfits go to waste because of you. Like, I’m already not wearing my wedding dress. That’s bad enough.” Mm-hmm. So the rest of the white outfits that I have, you know, I’m still wearing them. So yeah, everything to be honest, everything was as it should’ve been minus the ceremony.

That was it.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I love that. And what were, like, if you wanna share, what were, like, the reactions of people, like, that they call, like- And did most everyone that was going to come still come to the, to the ceremony or to the party?

Kath Jones: Yeah. So everyone… The, the, the people that were uninvited was his side.

Mm-hmm. So his family and his friends. So there was originally gonna be 50 people, but there ended up being 30 people, um, because n- again, th- there was really nothing against them. It was just a case of why would I want to be reminded of him by having them there. Yeah. So it, it… They, they were not invited, while as my side, my friends, my family, basically everyone still came.

I think there was maybe one or two people who didn’t come anymore, um, and that was for other reasons because they had other stuff going on. But generally, like everyone was like, “Yeah, we’re still coming.” Everyone was shocked, of course. Everyone was shocked. And I think it was a case of they really didn’t know how to handle me, but my sister and my mom had spoken to them and said, “Look, if you can just not talk about, like, him, and you could just not talk about the situation, and you could just do whatever you can to speak about other stuff and make her laugh and talk about memories, or just do what you’re doing, but just try your best to avoid that topic.”

And everyone did a great job of doing that. And the topic was, you know, it was barely touched upon, to be honest with you. I love it. And that was, that, that’s very much down to my friends and family.

Christa Innis: Yeah. And, like, looking at the videos, the vibes looked immaculate. It looked like it was just- Yeah … like such a good time, and that, like- Yeah

you had, like, were surrounded by so many people that just, like, supported you and just wanted to celebrate- Yeah … and hang out. Yeah. Have a good, like, vacation, like, party.

Kath Jones: Yeah. It, it was, it was that. And I think, you know, everyone really put the best foot forward probably because of the situation. But everyone was, was so up for, so up for fun, so up for a party and it, and it was just…

It was a, a great night.

Christa Innis: That’s amazing. And it was in Italy, correct?

Kath Jones: Yeah. Tuscany.

Christa Innis: Tuscany. And had you been there before? That was your first time, or?

Kath Jones: Yeah. No, I’ve been a few times, ’cause from, from England, Italy is only two hours away. So I’ve, I’ve been to Italy many, many, many times. Um, but Tuscany I’ve been a few times.

And particularly when we were looking at wedding venues, we did, like, a huge tour of Tuscany, going around visiting different places in the car. So yeah, I know it, and I, I love it very much.

Christa Innis: Oh, that’s awesome. So, so for like, the day itself, like, were you… I know you, like, you had very m- like, many moments that, like, ended up going viral just ’cause it was, like, such a, like- a shocking moment to a lot of people.

Yeah. So what was, like, one moment that, like, you’re able to just, like, core memory or just, like, remember, like, that was, like, you felt, like, empowered in the day?

The Heartbreak Was Real… But So Was The Laughing. 

Kath Jones: I think probably actually creating the content because- I, I know. I mean, I knew it anyway, but I know now more than ever, having spoken to all these thousands of women literally across the whole wide world, that this is more common than we think.

Mm-hmm.

Like, but it’s just not spoken about because people feel embarrassed- Yeah … and people feel shame. And whether it’s being jilted, whether it’s being left, whether it’s just being cheated on the day after your wedding or finding out at the wedding that someone’s having an affair or… The, the amount of crazy stories that I’ve been told now, it, it’s very clear that women stay silent and they carry their shame, you know, to, to the death, basically.

Mm-hmm. Whereas for me, as I was creating this content, I was laughing at myself. Like, I was able to go, “Wow, this situation only happens in movies, but somehow it, it’s happened to me.”

Mm-hmm.

And so to be able to be with my friends, coming up with ideas like, “What if we do it to this song?” Or, “What if we say that…”

“Oh, what, what about that scene from The Kardashians? What if we recreate that?” Talking about that and laughing about it and just being able to laugh at myself was actually very liberating and it felt like emp- empowered. And so I wasn’t upset. Like, when I was creating the content, I wasn’t upset at all during that period.

We really, really had a laugh. It’s the other times, it’s like the times when everyone goes home and you’re left on your own. Like, these are the times where you f- you feel the sadness and the upset. But during those moments, it was genuine laughter, to be quite honest. I

Christa Innis: love that. And it probably helped so many people, too, ’cause like you said, it’s a situation where I feel like a lot of people are left feeling like, not ashamed, but like, yeah, like embarrassed or like, “Oh, I’m not gonna talk about it.

Okay, let’s just quietly cancel it and have to call everybody.” But you kind of took the power back and you were like, “Heck no, I’m not gonna cancel it. It’s gonna be an awesome day and I’m surrounded by all my favorite people, you know, that I know.” And, and that was like so cool to see, is like you were like, “No, I’m not letting it go to waste.

Like, this is my life, too. I’m gonna enjoy it.”

Kath Jones: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I, I just, you know, w- why, why ruin it for everyone else as well when I know that I have the power to let everyone still come and have a great time knowing what we’re in for? So yeah, for, uh, the, the- there was never a moment I was gonna cancel.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Um, and so what’s kind of like the… I know you said like your following has grown, like you’ve got like 96%- Women that, um, which I, I’m not surprised to hear, ’cause I feel like women are just like, “Yes, let’s empower each other.” Power to the women. Yes. This is awesome. So what has, like, been, like, most of, like, the comments and the things that you’re hearing?

Are people sending you their own stories of, like, “Oh, thanks for sharing this, ’cause this happened to me,” or, “I know someone that this has happened to”?

Kath Jones: Yeah, thousands. Thousands, thousands, thousands. Like, and I think that is what has helped me through this the most out of anything, because it’s people saying, like, “Oh my God, I got broken up with three months ago, and I still haven’t got out of the bed.”

Mm. “

And I’ve seen that you were able to go and do that one week after, and it’s empowered me to get back up again, and it’s inspired me to go, well, no, I’m not gonna sit here being a, a victim. I am gonna get up and go.” So receiving messages like that, you, you, you see, like, oh my God, this was all worthwhile.

Even if it, even if it just helped one person, but clearly from the messages, it’s thousands. And then it’s people just telling their stories. You know, obviously they’ve never spoken about it publicly, and then they’re, they’re coming to me and saying, “This happened to me.” And some of the stories are, like, really shocking.

Mm. Shocking stories. And I’m like, “Oh my God.” And they’ve kept it to themselves. They’ve told no one.

Mm-hmm.

I think if it can just empower people to, like, “We- we’re not to blame here. Like, why, why sh- why should we be ashamed? Why should we curl up in a corner because of something a man’s done to us?”

Mm-hmm.

When we could actually just put one foot in front of the other and keep going.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.

Kath Jones: I, I, I would, I’d love to keep on doing that, and that’s what I hope to achieve moving forward.

Don’t Lose Your Girlfriends For A Man. 

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah, ’cause I feel like when it does happen in, like, you know, movies or TV shows or when we hear stories, it’s like the man, like, will, like, expects, expects her to, like, you know, hide away, or ca- you know, like, you know- Yeah

to be, like, kind of just… They don’t wanna see them living their best life in that time. Yeah. And so that’s, like, the best to be like, “No, look at me, I’m not gonna let you, you know, affect me.” And I think it shows how important, like, having your village and having your support, you know, people around you to, like, lift you up in those times.

Kath Jones: Absolutely. If it tells you about anything, you know,  don’t lose your friends when you get in a relationship, because so many people do that, you know? They get in a relationship and they forget about the friends, and they don’t make time for the friends, and they don’t make time for the family, and, like, they’re all in on this one person.

And I just think, like-

Christa Innis: Mm …

Kath Jones: that is really a, a huge downfall if, you know, if something like this is to come along.

Christa Innis: Yes.

Kath Jones: Um, and knock you for six. But luckily for me, even though I’ve been in a relationship for six and a half years, I’ve still kept very strong relationships with my friends and my family. So when something like this did happen, it was only one phone call for everyone to come together and really support me.

So it’s- Mm-hmm … it’s key, key to life. I believe in Sex and the City, you know. Girlfriends are your soulmates, and then-

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm …

Kath Jones: everyone else is just to have fun with.

Christa Innis: Yes. I love that. No, I 100% agree with that, ’cause my biggest pet peeve, especially when I was younger, is, like, a girl would get a boyfriend and sh- you wouldn’t see her, like, ever again.

Disappear. Yes. She’s gone. Uh, yeah. And then until, until they break up, then they’re like, “Oh, hey, let’s hang out.” Yeah. She’s back. And you’re like- … “Okay.” Yeah. Um, yeah. And I… That was just such a pet peeve of mine. And I, I know people… I feel like there’s, like, a name for it, where they just, they- have friends just to keep them busy until they find their person.

Yeah. And then those are the ones that once they get married you, like, never see them again. Yeah. And it’s just like it, and it’s just like, okay, they got their person. That’s it. And I, I totally agree with you, right? You need your, you need your girlfriends, you need your friends, you need other people other than your partner or your, your spouse or, you know, whoever, ’cause-

Kath Jones: Absolutely agree.

Christa Innis: Yeah, you can’t just… I don’t know. I, I feel like female friendships are so important to have at every stage- They do … of your life.

Kath Jones: So agree. Yeah. Completely agree. I wouldn’t have… There’s no way I would’ve been able to, you know, handle this in the way that I have without that. Mm-hmm. So- Yeah … it’s very important.

Christa Innis: Yes. I love that. Okay. We are going to do a little, um, re- it’s, it’s called, like, a red light, green light game-

Kath Jones: Okay. …

Christa Innis: to kinda, kinda shift gears. Okay. Um, I feel like that was some really good, really good advice to, like, end on. Okay. So, um, here we go. Let’s see. Um, just say red light… You could say yellow light if it’s, like, proceed with caution, or a red light is absolutely not.

Kath Jones: Okay.

Christa Innis: All right. Destination weddings.

Kath Jones: Green light.

Christa Innis: Um, big, big weddings.

Kath Jones: Oh. See, some people thought my wedding was going to be big. It was supposed to be 50 people. I thought that was small. Do you think that’s big or small?

Christa Innis: I think that’s very small.

Kath Jones: Yeah. I do as well. Yeah. I see a big wedding as, like, 250 people, and I think that’s, I think that’s a red light, um, because I think that’s, like, really unmanageable, and there’s so many people there that you probably don’t actually really love and see all the time.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.

Kath Jones: So I think red light to a, a big wedding. But then some people think 50 is a big wedding, so it’s all relative, I suppose.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I know everyone has, like, their own opinions about big and small. Like, 50, I feel like, uh, 50 is a lot of people for, like, a party, but I feel like for a wedding that’s considered more micro.

Kath Jones: I think so as well, yeah. Yeah.

Christa Innis: I know. Um, like, I remember even, like, growing up I was always like, “Oh, I’ll probably have, like, 200 people,” and then I think we ended up having, like, 130. Mm. And so, like, to me, like, that sounded, like, small-ish. Yeah. But I’ve been at weddings where there’s, like, 300 people and you’re just like- Yeah.

Kath Jones: Same … “

Christa Innis: My God.” Same.

Kath Jones: Yeah. Yeah.

Christa Innis: They invite everybody they know and, like, you’re

Kath Jones: like- Yeah. I know. Oh, what about Taylor Swift’s wedding?

Christa Innis: Yeah. What was that, like, thousands?

Kath Jones: Thousands of people. Like, how on earth? I mean, she’s got the cash, so it’s okay. But yeah. Yes. So many people. For me, a, a big wedding like that would be a, a red light.

Christa Innis: Yes.

Kath Jones: Mm.

Christa Innis: Um, let’s see. Having a big bridal party.

Kath Jones: I mean, again, red for me. But this is all very personal, I think. Um- Yeah … for me. I, I was only having my two sisters, so it was just… And I didn’t have a maid of honor. I just had my two sisters as bridesmaids equal. Yeah. So if I was ever to get married again, which probably not, to be honest, but if I was, I don’t…

I’d still stick to just having them two.

Christa Innis: Yeah. So you mean, like, after… Is it because of, like, all of this, you’re just like, “I just don’t wanna do it again”? Or, like- Um,

Kath Jones: yeah. I mean, going through the whole planning process and all of that, I’m just like, “Oh, God. I’m tired. I wouldn’t want to do that again.” But then also I think I’ve kind of lost…

I, I kind of think, “Well, what, what’s the point in a wedding anyway?” Like, it’s just a piece of paper, and, like, the likelihood is if you wanna go by statistics, we’re probably gonna end up divorced. I know. I know that’s not, like, a positive mental attitude, but statistics do say-

Yeah …

that we are likely to end up divorced.

So do I really need… I, I would never say never, because, you know, if someone comes along and they’re rich enough to buy me the best wedding on Earth, maybe I’m gonna say yeah. But aside from that, I probably wouldn’t bother.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Well, and I feel like, too, now, it’s like you have this, like, really awesome, like, celebration, and it’s like, what could, like, top that?

Just-

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: It looked so fun, and it’s, like- … um, drama-free. You know, you’re living your best life. And, um, weddings come with a lot of drama and- They do … especially with, like… especially with the wrong person or the wrong family you’re marrying into. It’s just, like, the s- again, the stories I get, too, and I’m just like- I don’t think I would do it again after like- Yeah

I know, I… There’s so many people, so many, like, people I talk to where they’re like one, one big thing is, is enough, but I don’t know. Yeah. But there are people that, like, love that. I feel the same way. Yeah.

Kath Jones: Yeah. Yeah, maybe I’d just, like, elope just the two of us if I wanted to, but I don’t know. I just, I’m not sure I care much about a piece of paper-

Christa Innis: Yeah

Kath Jones: anymore.

Fourth Wedding. Fifth Wedding. Evil Stepmom Energy. 

Christa Innis: Yeah, no, I get that, for sure. Um, okay. That’s… Okay, let’s get into, I, the story we, I have is a little long, so I wanna get into that. So I have a wedding story that someone sent me. Yeah. So, um, we, I’ll react- I’ll read it, and then we can just react to it as, as we go. I haven’t read it yet, so we’re gonna see what we got here.

Okay. “This story is actually about my dad’s fourth wedding and his current wife’s fifth. And when I say wedding, I mean full-blown traditional wedding.” Okay, so we’re just talking about not having more than one. They’re on their fourth and fifth. Okay. Not shaming, to each their own, but- … that just sounds like a lot, a lot of planning.

Kath Jones: It is. “

Christa Innis: At the time, my dad was 53, and his bride was 49. From the beginning, she made it clear that she didn’t want my dad’s three daughters involved in the wedding at all. We weren’t bridesmaids, weren’t included in any planning, and she even personally reached out to tell us that we were not invited to the rehearsal dinner.”

God. My first thought is why would he allow that? Why would he not- Yeah … want-

Kath Jones: Yeah, I, I would say that surely he should be saying that that’s not an option.

Christa Innis: Yeah. That’s a red flag.

Kath Jones: Yeah. If

Christa Innis: I ever heard one.

Kath Jones: Yeah. “

Christa Innis: She said she’d see us tomorrow at the wedding instead.” The funny part … Oh, here we go. This is why I haven’t read it yet.

The funny part, my dad had no idea she had done that.

Kath Jones: Oh, okay.

Christa Innis: Right. My aunts, uncles, and cousins were all invited to the rehearsal dinner, just not his own. So the night before she just, like, calls and was like, “By the way, don’t come to the rehearsal. I’ll see you tomorrow at the wedding.”

Kath Jones: Oh my God. That’s

Christa Innis: weird.

Kath Jones: That’s crazy. Yeah.

Christa Innis: I feel like I wouldn’t take that call seriously.

Kath Jones: I’d be like, “Okay, see you there.” “I will be there anyway, regardless.” Yeah. So, like- Exactly … it makes me wonder what the, like, what had happened previous to this. Like, have they had arguments before? Mm-hmm. Have they had disagreements before?

Because is this just completely, like, is this a complete surprise to them? Or are they just like, “Oh, yeah, it’s, it’s Karen. Of course she’s gonna do this.” Yes.

Christa Innis: Good old Karen. We … Yeah. Yeah. She’s always got some issue with us. Yeah. Wild. On the wedding day, my sisters and I sat in the front row on my dad’s side with our children, and things only got stranger from there.

The ceremony was in California in June at 4:00 PM with guests including young children and elderly relatives sitting on hay bales in direct sunlight outside in a barn. Okay.

Kath Jones: Okay.

Christa Innis: The hay bales. Um, the groomsmen, who are all my uncles, were dressed in long-sleeve white T-shirts with black wool vests in the summer heat.

And I just have to pause for a second ’cause I’m thinking, like, they are going all out for all these weddings. Can you imagine being a brother or a sister or whoever in five different weddings?

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: You’re like, “Can you just not have a wedding party this time, please?” Like- … being in five weddings for the same person, I’d be like, “No, I, I’m, I’m good.

Thank you.”

Kath Jones: Yeah. Done. Yeah. Yeah, it’d be ha- it’d be very hard to take that seriously for a fifth time, wouldn’t it?

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Kath Jones: You’d be like, “Oh, surely not.” Like, “Please stop.” But also how much money do these people have to just have continuous weddings?

Christa Innis: Yes, that’s what I thought. I’m like, that’s a lot of money to be putting in for the bride and groom, all their, their wedding party, their guests.

Um, like, I could understand if, like, maybe, like, their first wedding they didn’t go all out, so like, okay, the second wedding we’re gonna have a big wedding. But by the fourth, like…

Kath Jones: Yeah. You surely better.

Christa Innis: Yes. Mm. Oh my gosh. Okay. Funny. Then my dad made his grand entrance by riding down the aisle on a horseback- Mm

to an old Western theme song. I can, like, picture it. But-

Kath Jones: I feel like this should’ve been in Texas, not California

Christa Innis: I know. They sound very country.

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: My 94-year-old great-grandmother thought it was absolutely hilarious. The bride arrived in a horse-drawn carriage. Unfortunately, the fairy tale entrance lost a little bit of its magic because the carriage driver was dressed in full Western attire while the assistant walking beside him was wearing a pink tank top, shorts, and flip-flops.

Oh. His own par- sorry, what?

Kath Jones: I just said, “Oh.”

Christa Innis: Yeah. His own parents refused to attend because they didn’t want to celebrate a fifth wedding Okay, so the parents didn’t wanna come.

Kath Jones: Mm-hmm. “

Christa Innis: She also wouldn’t allow her adult son to come because he had a cold a few days earlier. He even offered to stand in the very back during the ceremony and leave immediately afterward, but she refused.

From what I heard, she wasn’t very kind about it either.” Yeah, I’m not surprised.

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: She doesn’t sound very- She sounds

Kath Jones: like a witch.

Christa Innis: It’s, like, literally like a story of, like, the step- evil stepmother because she’s like- Yeah, the evil stepmother … “Don’t come to the wedding,” and- … I just picture and… Oh, my gosh.

“After the ceremony, we took photos.” While we were waiting, my husband realized our 18-month-old’s nephew was overheating in the California sun. Mm-hmm. So he took him outside- he took him inside the barn to cool off. While we were gone, the bride gathered everyone back together and took a family photo without my sisters or me.

Why? Just why? Yes. God. Also, like, a June wedding in California sounds like… And outside in a barn sounds like terrible planning.

Kath Jones: Yeah. I, I would agree. I would agree. Yeah, I mean, this lady sounds crazy, to be honest.

Christa Innis: Yeah. While, um, that ended up being the only family photo she ever shared or posted. At the time, we were shocked because we never really had any issues with her before the wedding.

Kath Jones: There we go. They’ve answered- Yeah … my question.

Christa Innis: Yeah. That’s so weird to just all of a sudden be like, “Yeah, I don’t want them being a part of the wedding,” which is, like, the start of a new, you know, chapter, and she’s just like, “Yeah, no.”

Kath Jones: It is. It’s like y- it’s like the evil step-mom story, you know, when at first it’s like, “Oh, I love you so much.

I love you.” And then once you’re married it’s like, “Okay, get to boarding school.”

Christa Innis: Yes. Let’s ship them off. Like, I don’t care anymore. Yeah. It doesn’t say how old, like, the ki- the kids are, but I mean, it says they had kids of their own, so I would guess, like, late 20s or 30s maybe. Yeah. So, like, they’re adults that, like, presumably live on their own, so it’s like, what…

It’s not like she has to take care of them and, like- Yeah. … feed them. Like, they live on their own. Like, wouldn’t she want them involved? No way. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you, unless she feels, like, jealous of them or has some kind of, like, hatred- Or- … something.

Kath Jones: Yeah. Maybe she’s just, like, a jea- a jealous person and, and that’s it.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Kath Jones: I mean, she doesn’t sound like someone I would like to be friends with.

Christa Innis: Yeah, no. I’m getting all the bad vibes about her. Looking back now, it feels like the beginning of a much bigger pattern. Over the years she slowly isolated my dad from all his children and grandchildren. Meanwhile, two of her three adult children and one grandchild moved in with them and have been fully financially supported by my dad ever since.

Kath Jones: No way.

Christa Innis: That makes me think a lot of things. Mm-hmm. If he’s, like, very well off and she, like, somehow knew it, she was like, “How can I make sure we are, like…” I don’t know, maybe I’ve read too many, like, or seen too many- Mm … drama things- … but I’m like, she’s like, “How can I make sure we get the money?” Yeah. Or get something if something happens.

Kath Jones: Yeah. ‘

Christa Innis: Cause to cut off his family-

Kath Jones: Yeah. They need to be checking on his will immediately.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah, ’cause she’s someone that would go in there and change it. Yeah,

Kath Jones: she’ll change it. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yes.

Kath Jones: Oh. Oh

Christa Innis: my gosh. Wow. But that’s also on the dad too. How is she gonna allow him to isolate from his own kids and grandkids?

Like-

Kath Jones: Well, exactly, ’cause he can just say, “Well, no. Sorry, I’m a grown man.”

Christa Innis: Yeah. “

Kath Jones: I need to see my own kids and my own grandkids. I’m, I, I’m not interested in just seeing your kids the whole time.” So yeah, it is on the dad, but, you know- Oh … what, what a surprise, men not standing up. Mm.

Christa Innis: He’s like, “Hmm, he’s easily manipulated.

I got this.” Yeah. “There were pr- plenty of other memorable moments from the day too. The guest list was almost entirely my dad’s friends and family because, as we later learned, she wasn’t particularly close with her own relatives or former friends.” Mm. “The only people there on her side were one of her adult daughters and a few of that daughter’s friends.”

Mm. “A man named Cookie handled all the cooking, but they didn’t make enough food for the guests.” Then out of nowhere, 10 Mormon missionaries showed up uninvited and each grabbed multiple plates of food, leaving even less for everyone. Who are these Mormon missionaries that just- Who were they?

They just randomly came. Who- Like, did someone invite them?

Kath Jones: Yeah. Were they invited or did they… Were they just on the doorstep?

Christa Innis: They’re just, like, on the ba- like, at the barn. Like, they’re like, “Oh, look, there’s a wedding. Let’s go help ourselves.” I

Kath Jones: don’t- No, that is, that is funny. I would laugh at that. If I saw that happen, I would just laugh.

Christa Innis: Yeah, like, what i- what else is gonna walk into this wedding?

Kath Jones: Yeah. Like, what, what do you mean?

Christa Innis: Instead of having a family member walk her down the aisle, she asked one of my dad’s friends, a man she only had known for a couple of months, to give her away. Mm. Weird.

Kath Jones: Weird. Weird, weird. That’s

Christa Innis: very weird. I went to a wedding once where the bride asked her guy best friend, or guy friend, to walk her down the aisle when her dad was alive and well and at the wedding.

Oh my God. It was very odd.

Kath Jones: Awkward and uncomfortable.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Mm. But then she had a wedding y- like, she got married… She had divorced and married to someone else later, and her dad walked her down for that aisle. So I was like, maybe the dad didn’t support it, but hi- I don’t know. Yeah. It was very… It was very interesting.

Kath Jones: Yeah. Or she might have thought h- her friend was bad luck, since she got divorced. Yeah. She was like, “I’m not ha- I’m not having you again.”

Christa Innis: Yeah. You’re out this

Kath Jones: time.

Christa Innis: Um, as the reception went on, several guests became so intoxicated that they were literally falling all over while dancing. The bride spent the entire evening being overly affectionate with our extended family, hugging everyone and chatting them up.

Trying to butter them up for that will, I guess.

Kath Jones: Yeah. Oh.

Christa Innis: But any time my sisters or I approached to talk to our dad, she would quietly walk away with him Again, we hadn’t had any problems before the wedding, so it felt very intentional. Fast-forward three years, here we go. They’re now on the verge of divorce.

My dad is raising her grandchild and financially supporting her adult children while she has essentially cut him off from his own kids and grandkids. Two of my dad’s three children have completely gone no contact because he refuses to stand up to his wife and continually allows her to blame all of their marital problems on us, even though they’re cut out.

Kath Jones: Yeah. I

Christa Innis: thought that was weird. How,

Kath Jones: how…

Christa Innis: Looking back, it really feels like the wedding was the first sign of everything that was to come. Gosh, that-

Kath Jones: Mania

Christa Innis: I mean, I hate to say it, but if you’re going on weddings four and five, it’s not- Maybe looking good. I don’t want people- Yeah … to be mad at that. But I’m like, there’s, there’s something not working, right?

Like-

Kath Jones: Yeah …

Christa Innis: there’s something not working. And I feel like at that point, too, maybe you’re not taking it as, like, like who knows how long they were together before they got married. Like, I feel like- Mm … the, like, older you get, you kinda hear, like, they don’t, you know, wait as long ’cause they’re like, “Oh, we’re, we don’t have as much time.”

Yeah. “We’re older.” Um-

Kath Jones: Yeah, yeah,

Christa Innis: yeah … so gosh, that’s wild. And now he’s, like, financially supporting her kids and grandkids.

Kath Jones: Yeah, instead of his own.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Kath Jones: So more fool him is what I say.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I wonder if in the divorce she’ll get, like, money from him, too. Like, or his, her family.

Kath Jones: I, I would like to know about his finances.

I wish she would’ve included, like, “PS, my dad is a billionaire.” Yeah.

Christa Innis: I know. I’m picturing, um, Parent Trap, like the dad-

Kath Jones: Yeah, same … Meredith, like- That’s also what I’ve been picturing. Same. That is exactly the same as what I’ve been thinking. That’s so funny. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah. She- Like, if she were just a little bit younger, I’d be like, oh my gosh, it’s H- Yeah it’s, um, I don’t remember what his name is. I know it’s Meredith Blake. I don’t remember his name. Is it?

Kath Jones: I don’t know what his name is, no.

Christa Innis: But yeah, that’s who I was picturing. I was like, oh my gosh, he owns a vineyard somewhere and makes all this money, and…

Kath Jones: Were, were you picturing the original or the o- the, uh, Lindsay Lohan one?

Christa Innis: Just now I was picturing the Lindsay Lohan one, but I do love the original, too.

Kath Jones: I, I had the original in my head.

Christa Innis: Did you?

Kath Jones: Yeah. Love

Christa Innis: that. I love that. Wasn’t it the same… Maybe I’m making some of that stuff up. ‘Cause I know Lindsay Lohan was in Freaky Friday, and, um, Parent Trap. Wasn’t the same actress in the original Freaky Friday and Parent Trap?

Kath Jones: Oh, I don’t know. I don’t know that.

Christa Innis: I wonder what it, what’s her name? Um, I might be making it up. I think maybe I was just, like, as a kid, like, surprised that there was, like, an original for both. I was like, what?

Kath Jones: I love, yeah, love that. Love that movie, but it’s exactly what I was picturing as well.

Christa Innis: Especially when she’s like, “Ship them off to Switzerland.”

Kath Jones: Yeah. Get rid.

Christa Innis: Yeah. It’s me or them. Take your-

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: But obviously this guy doesn’t pick that. O- oh yeah, it was Hayley Mills was- So

Kath Jones: she was, she was in both?

Christa Innis: Let me see.

Freaky Friday. Okay.

Totally made that up. Wait. Are we foster? I saw it as a kid, so I do not remember that. But, yeah. Mm-hmm. Interesting. Yeah. Mm-hmm That’s literally what I’m picturing is, like, just, like, the evil stepmother coming in, like, wants his money- Yeah … and, and maybe she was just like, “You know what, guys, we’re low on some funds.”

Yeah. “I’m gonna get you guys a stepdad to take care of us.” Yeah,

Kath Jones: yeah. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah. It all adds up- Mm … to not very good.

Kath Jones: Yeah. They should have maybe done something like they did in Parent Trap where they terrorized her and, y- you know, put all, like, the animals in her shoes and stuff like that, and drowned her in the lake.

Like, maybe they could have done something like that. Drowned her in the lake,

Christa Innis: yes. Um- I know. Well, it’s like you always say, like, when people tell a story from their perspective, they, you know, they make themselves sound a little bit better, right? Yeah. And so I’m like, she has, she says, like, there were certain things that, like, you know, the wife blames them for the marital problems.

I’m like, oh, maybe there is something that, like, happened. May-

Kath Jones: maybe you did something. Maybe y- you’re not telling us everything. Yeah. Right? Can we get, can we get the step- the evil stepmom on? ‘Cause I want two sides to the story. I wanna

Christa Innis: hear her. But I’m also like, she probably deserved it ’cause- Yeah … she just sounds like a not great person.

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: The whole thing about not allowing them at the rehearsal dinner is very odd, and just to call them.

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: But- Yeah … like me, if, like, my dad was getting remarried or something and, and like the night before his wife was like, “Oh, you can’t come,” I would, I would do some calls to double-check. Like, “What’s going on here?”

Yeah, yeah. I don’t think I would just not go. Yeah,

Kath Jones: no. No, same. I would as a- Yeah … I would phone him straight away and be like, “Why has she just said this?”

Christa Innis: Yeah,

Kath Jones: surely. “Surely this is not true, and surely you should not marry him now.”

Christa Innis: Yeah. “

Kath Jones: Not marry her now.”

Christa Innis: So, like, not have any issues until the actual wedding.

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Boundaries, Bachelorette Drama & The Kid-Free Wedding Debate 

Christa Innis: Very odd. Weird. Very odd. Okay. Well, that was a weird one. Um- Mm-hmm … very, very crazy, these stories. Mm-hmm. But yeah. All right. I always like to end these episodes with confessions. So someone sent me… Or, so we asked in my Instagram story, what’s, be honest, what’s something a family member expected from you that felt unfair?

And this is, like, usually for, like, weddings or events. Um, this says, “Future sister-in-law, we were marrying brothers, expected to be a bridesmaid. She got engaged first and didn’t ask me to be a part of hers, but was mad.” So she was mad- Oh, so she didn’t ask her to be a bridesmaid, but then when she, the other sister didn’t ask her, she was mad to not be a bridesmaid She got mad about it.

Kath Jones: Yeah. I’ve heard many stories like that before.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Kath Jones: I think that’s, that’s pretty common, I would say. Yeah. Like some, you know, people just don’t ask the other one, and then they don’t ask them as payback, and then there’s some kind of drama. Yeah. I mean, I, I personally wouldn’t care. I’d be like, “Thank you very much for not making me a bridesmaid.”

Christa Innis: know. It’s so much work. I know. It’s, it’s interesting. It’s like some people love it, some hate it. Yeah. I, I’ve been a bridesmaid so many times that, like, I feel like I’ve done my due dil- due diligence. Mm-hmm. I feel like I’m kind of, like, done with that era of being a bridesmaid. But, um, yeah, it’s… And I loved it when, when the time was there, but now I’m just kinda like, “It’s a lot of work.”

It’s like a full-time job. Yeah. It really is sometimes. Yeah. If you’re like a- I can see … if you’re like a hands-on person, I feel like it’s a full-time job.

Kath Jones: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, not for me. I’m not, I’m not the o- organizing type, really.

Christa Innis: Yeah. This says, um, “Rented a house for the bachelorette and expected each of us to drop a grand for it.”

Ooh. That’s a lot.

Kath Jones: That’s a lot. I, I, I think that’s too much to expect from people.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Like, I’ve spent… There were two bachelorette parties I went on where I’ve spent over $1,000, but it was best friends of mine, two, three d- three years apart, and it was a week long, and not… That was, like, total what I spent, including, like- Okay

hotel, flight- Yeah … food. Yeah. For a house alone is- Mm-hmm … crazy.

Kath Jones: Crazy. Yeah. I, I, I agree with that. And I would… I- you know, if it’s a very close friend. Like, I went to Vegas for my best friend’s, so that was, like, a huge expense. But also I just saw it as like, “Okay, I’m going to Vegas for a week, so whatever.”

Girls trip. I didn’t just see it as just her hen. Um, but yeah. Uh, I, I think if you want to do it, you will. But if that was someone I wasn’t close to and they wanted me to go and spend thousands of pounds going to Vegas, I’d say no.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Exactly. Like, people get so bent out of shape about, like, bachelorette parties when I’ve, like, made skits or when I share stories and stuff.

And I’m like, “No one is making you.” Like, if you’re not close enough to them that you wanna go to their bachelorette, just say no.

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: People aren’t selfish for having one or not having one. That’s just what they wanna do. Um- And you

Kath Jones: can just say no.

Christa Innis: A- yeah, exactly. You can just say no. Like, for- Mm-hmm … but yeah.

Like, for me, like, ’cause I’ve said no to bachelorette parties, but, like, for me, if, like, for close friends that I was, like, in their wedding, and, like, all the people invited were other close friends, it was like a girls’ trip, so it was so much fun. Yeah. Like, why wouldn’t I go?

Kath Jones: It, it’s worth it, yeah. It’s worth it.

Yeah. It’s worth the money

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Kath Jones: Have you seen that girl who posts, um… It’s like, you know, when they post, like, they’ve made the texts into a song. Um- Yes,

Christa Innis: I have …

Kath Jones: she, she posts about, like, the bachelorette trip from hell.

Christa Innis: No.

Kath Jones: Oh, it’s, it’s actually it’s, it’s really funny. Um, I don’t know if it’s real or not, you know, when you’re thinking is this AI?

But it’s just, like, a big story about, like, how this, this one maid of honor was just a nightmare, and she was just kept saying to the girls, like, “Give me more money. You have to do this. You have to do that.” You know, “You’re the worst.” Uh, like, making everyone s- spend thousands of dollars on everything. And it’s just a really good story, so I keep going back to see the update.

Yeah. Because apparently now this, um, bri- like, bri- the maid of honor from hell, she’s now messaging her saying, “Why are you making songs out of this?” And so then she’s making songs out of these messages as well. So whether it’s real or not is different, but it is- Yeah … really funny to listen to. So

Christa Innis: things for more content.

I mean, even- Yeah … if it’s not real, I have heard stories, like, on Reddit and some that people have sent to me, um, about, like, crazy similar stories. One was, um, the bride kept asking the wedding party for money, saying it was for, like, the bachelorette party, and she was, like, pocketing it and, like, using it for other stuff.

Kath Jones: Stop it. Please, I can’t. ‘

Christa Innis: Cause then when it came time for the bachelorette party, she had, like… It was not what she said it was gonna be. Like, they were like, “Oh, it’s gonna go towards a house,” and it was, like, not like that. Um- No.

Kath Jones: That, that is horrendous.

Christa Innis: Yes. Or it’s like the, it comes out that, like, actually a different, like, family member paid for the bachelorette.

So they’re like, “Well, where did our money go?” Where

Kath Jones: did our money go? Oh.

Christa Innis: It is wild the stories.

Kath Jones: That is so funny.

Christa Innis: Oh my God. All right. Let me read a couple more of these. Um, it said, “I was expected to wear my grandma’s ring, wedding ring, even though she never put effort into me as a child.” Okay. Interesting.

“Mother-in-law expected to be the main grandparent because my parents already had other grandchildren.”

Kath Jones: Okay. “

Christa Innis: My sister wanted ki- her kids at my kid-free wedding after telling me, uh- After telling me they stop at grocery stores to let them run around when they’re on road trips. I don’t know what that has to do with it, but- Yeah.

Kath Jones: Same. It’s not relevant.

Christa Innis: Okay. Um-

Kath Jones: Yeah … ‘

Christa Innis: cause I was like, I feel like that’s normal to… I mean, not, like, run around grocery stores and knock stuff off the shelves, but, but like learn energy. No,

Kath Jones: that’s what kids do.

Christa Innis: They run

Kath Jones: around. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah. But the whole, like, if someone’s having a kid-free wedding, don’t ask to bring your kids.

Yeah. Like- ‘Cause

Kath Jones: it’s, it’s kid-free.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Kath Jones: Yeah. Like,

Christa Innis: let’s

Kath Jones: respect- And they’ve, they’ve been direct with that.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.

Kath Jones: And so what’s the problem? Yeah, like, for me, I definitely was having a ki- I say kid-free. I meant baby-free because I did have one kid there, but she was 10.

Mm.

And so she’s, you know, very okay. Yeah. But I did not want a two-year-old, a three-year-old, a baby in arms. I did not want that there.

Right. So I, I made that clear, and everyone… To be honest, most people are quite happy with that, aren’t they? They’re like, “Great news. I can offload my child.”

Christa Innis: Yes. See, and that’s the thing that people don’t, like, I shouldn’t say don’t understand, but, like, when I’ve posted about kid-free weddings too, you always get someone in the comments that’s like, “Oh, that’s so rude.

It’s supposed to be a family event.” And I’m like, when I got married, my friends were like, “Yes, a night off.” Like- Yes … babysitter’s gonna watch the baby, like- Yeah … watch the kid. Like, and I always say, like, I have a toddler, and I’m like, I would never be offended if someone invited me to a wedding and didn’t invite her.

Yeah. In fact, even if they did invite her, I’d probably be like, “We’ll probably have a sitter.” Why?

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: Unless it’s a family wedding-

Kath Jones: Yeah … there’s no- Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Everyone’s different, and I just think a wedding is your own day, and if you don’t want it, especially, like, if you don’t have your own kids, then you, you probably don’t want kids there and, and I think that’s fine.

It should be your choice.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, we only did nieces and nephews- Yeah … and let them kinda decide if they wanted to bring them or not. Like, my sister at the time had, I think my nieces were, they were probably only two at the time, and she’s like, “No, they’ll, they’ll stay home.” But she brought- Yeah

like, her older daughter. And- Yeah … ’cause it was like, it’s, it was up to the parents, and it was like we just invited nieces and nephews, and the youngest was five. They weren’t n- we didn’t have, like, you know- Oh, yeah … a toddler.

Kath Jones: Yeah, or babies. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I think

Kath Jones: that’s pr- that’s pretty kind. I wouldn’t have done that.

Yeah. I would’ve been like, “Sorry, they’re not coming.”

Christa Innis: Yeah, I know. But yours also was like a, an el- I guess it’s considered an elopement, right? ‘Cause it’s-

Kath Jones: Yeah …

Christa Innis: yeah, you have to fly to it. Um- Yeah, yeah … yeah. But I was like, I don’t know, I couldn’t, I couldn’t picture without, but like, as for like everybody else, I was like, “No.”

21 and older only.

Kath Jones: Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Kath Jones: Oh, I love that.

Christa Innis: All right. Well, thank you so much for coming on and sharing- No … your story and, you know, laughing with me. I know it’s a very vulnerable story to share, but like I said, I feel like it’s very, like, empowering of like how you shared it, and I’m sure, like, you’re inspiring so many people with your story.

Kath Jones: Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. I really enjoyed

Christa Innis: it. Of course. And where can people find you, follow your, follow along your journey? Anything else you have to share?

Kath Jones: Yeah, please follow me on TikTok. This is my new journey. When I first put my posts up, I had zero followers, not one singular follower.

Oh

Christa Innis: my God.

Kath Jones: And now I’ve got, I don’t know, like 120,000 or something. Yay. It’s quite like weirdly overnight. Um, but please follow me. It’s TikTok. It’s Kathjay, K-A-T-H-J-A-Y 89. Nice. And that would be fabulous. Thank you so

Christa Innis: much. Awesome. Thank you.

Kath Jones: Love.