Wedding Etiquette 101, Rapid Fire Questions & the Bad Luck Bride — with Mariah Humbert

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Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • Wedding Mayhem & Resilience – How one bride navigated disappearing vendors, last-minute disasters, and chaos on the big day while still celebrating joyfully.
  • Balancing Tradition & Personal Meaning – How couples can honor family customs without losing the parts of the day that matter most to them.
  • The Stress Trap – Why brides often look back wishing they stressed less—and what mindset helps you avoid that spiral.
  • Wedding Gifts Gone Wild – Listener confessions reveal the strangest gifts ever received… including a used kitchen appliance and a mountain of condoms.
  • Regifting Rules – Mariah breaks down the etiquette: yes, you can regift… but absolutely not if it’s visibly used.
  • The Wearing-Black Debate – Is black at a wedding disrespectful? Mariah explains the evolving etiquette and cultural considerations.
  • Mindset on the Big Day – Why waking up with the right perspective can make or break your wedding.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “If you wake up on the wrong side of the bed and stub your toe, it’s the end of the world. If the sun’s shining? You laugh it off.” – Christa Innis
  • “Three things are gonna go wrong today—whatever. Just enjoy being surrounded by people who love you.” – Christa Innis
  • “You don’t want those little things getting to you on a day you’ve waited your whole life for.” – Christa Innis
  • “I’m always reading stories about wedding etiquette, but hearing it from an expert hits different.” – Christa Innis
  • “Know your options… and maybe don’t gift someone a used turkey roaster.” – Christa Innis
  • “Your job is to create a great experience for guests without losing the wedding you dreamed of.” – Mariah Humbert
  • “Respect the traditions that matter to your family, but don’t let them erase what’s meaningful to you as a couple.” – Mariah Humbert
  • “The one thing I wish I did differently was stress a little less.” – Mariah Humbert
  • “Regifting is fine—but if it’s used, that’s a hard no.” – Mariah Humbert
  • “Black at a wedding isn’t taboo anymore. Just be mindful of cultural context.” – Mariah Humbert

*This conversation is for entertainment and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. Please seek a licensed professional for your specific situation.

About Mariah

Mariah Grumet Humbert is a renowned etiquette expert and author, specializing in weddings and social celebrations. With years of experience guiding couples, families, and event hosts, Mariah combines her expertise with a warm, approachable style, helping people navigate the often tricky world of etiquette with confidence and grace. She is the author of What Do I Do: Every Wedding Etiquette Question Answered and The Essential Wedding Planner, and she shares her knowledge across her website and social platforms, including Instagram and TikTok. Known for her practical advice, attention to detail, and ability to bring calm and clarity to high-stress situations, Mariah is the go-to resource for anyone looking to celebrate life’s milestones with style, respect, and ease.

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Christa Innis:  Hey guys. Welcome back to another episode of Here Comes The Drama. I’m your host, Christa Innis. And first things first, I wanna apologize to you guys because my voice is rather raspy today. It’s gotten a little worse over the, over the week and, um, I feel like it’s straining now. So, um. I apologize in advance if it cracks a little bit during this episode.

Um, I felt like I was kind of straining to read towards the end there, but I still had a lot of fun with it, so I’m sure you will still enjoy it. Just the same. It was just me on the other end, kind of struggling a little bit. I’ll be going on a little voice sabbatical after this, drinking some tea and, and resting the best that I can.

Um, of course by the time you guys listen to this, I’ll be, I’ll be long past this. I’ll be, I’ll be much healthier, better, and vocally charged me. Um, in case you guys missed it, um, we’re doing a little giveaway this month. Um, just share on social media, either a screenshot of you listening to the podcast, um, a picture of yourself listening to the podcast, your review, and then just tag me.

Um, we’re gonna pick four winners that win $50 Amazon gift cards, and the winners will be announced on the February 12th. Episode. Yes, that is correct. I had to double check there. Um, but we are, you guys are in for a great episode today. I have etiquette and image consultant, author and founder of Old Soul Etiquette, Mariah Grumet Humbert, and she answers.

All the big questions when it comes to etiquette and your wedding. You guys have been asking for etiquette expert for a long time, and someone recommended her to me and we just had such a great time chatting. Um, I pulled off some of your guys’ questions from social media, um, answering questions like, do you need to send a gift?

If you are invited to a wedding but you cannot attend, um, can you ask someone to step down from your wedding? Um, how does money or paying for your event come into play when they can?

Or something like how does control come into, or something like how do decisions come into play when someone’s paying for part of your wedding? She answers all the questions and we have a great time chatting and doing some rapid fire as well. And then of course, at the very end we react to one of your wild, crazy, and very.

Positive wedding stories, but also very shocking in a lot of ways. So without further ado, please enjoy this episode with Mariah.

Hi, Mariah.

Mariah Humbert: Hi Christa. I’m so happy to be here.

Christa Innis: Thank you so much for coming on. I’m so excited to talk to you. I had so many people recommend you to me being like, we need to have an etiquette expert on your show. And I was like, I have to reach out because I think it’s such a perfect crossover of having your expertise in sharing everything you know about etiquette.

Mariah Humbert: Well, that’s so sweet. I’m so excited to dive into all of the things that we have to talk about today. Yes.

Christa Innis: So before we get started, can you just share a little bit about yourself and then what you do?

Mariah Humbert: Sure. So my name is Mariah Grumet Humbert. I’m the founder of Old Soul Etiquette. I’m a certified etiquette and image consultant.

I’ve written two modern wedding etiquette books and my whole philosophy on etiquette is about using it as tool, a tool instead of these kind of rigid rules. And you know, I work with companies and individuals all over the country to help them look, feel, and think their best so that they can really go out in the world and shine their light in the way that they’re meant to.

Christa Innis: I love that because I feel like when it comes to like weddings and events, we hear a lot about etiquette. Like, this is proper etiquette. No, this is proper etiquette. Yes. And so what would you say is the difference between etiquette and opinion? Because I feel like that’s something too, is like. Opinions come into play.

Also, where you’re located on the map might come into play. Absolutely. So what’s your take on all that?

Mariah Humbert: So I think when we think about modern wedding etiquette, the most important thing to keep in mind is the why behind the rule, so to speak, right? That that have existed in terms of like wedding etiquette, tradition from years and years ago.

Why are we doing these things? The answer to that question in most cases is to give our guests a good experience, to make our guests feel welcome and taken care of. But with that, it is our one day that we can, you know, kind of have the dream day that we want and make decisions based on our interests and our preferences as a couple.

And so I think it’s really about that balancing act of how do I not give up my vision and my dream day. But let’s not forget. That I’m taking care of a huge room of people who I wanna have a really good experience for.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. I love that because I feel like a lot of times we get caught up in the, I don’t wanna say bridezilla, but like that if the bride has a boundaries or expectations, she’s labeled a Bridezilla.

Mm-hmm. But the other way around is like, yes, they are also your guests, so we should also consider our guests needs as well. Yes. It’s not just a one way street.

Mariah Humbert: Absolutely. And it, it’s even goes beyond the guests too. Like that made me think when you said Bridezilla, which I’m, so, I’m a little scared of that word, right?

I, no one thinks that I was when I got married, but, you know, I, I think too that so much of wedding planning, even before the event comes from how you consider the people involved. So, so much of that comes from communication and I think when it comes to setting boundaries or making decisions as a couple, having, you know, the.

The balance of power over decisions between family members. All that comes back to how we can communicate our needs and interests, but also, you know, be willing to hear out others too. So even before the big day, making sure that sometimes we don’t think about etiquette as communication, but it, but it really is, it’s a, it’s, it’s about putting our best foot forward for ourselves, but also for others.

Managing Family Dynamics and Wedding Finances Without Losing Your Sanity

Christa Innis: Yeah. So like right off the bat, how would you, this just comes to mind ’cause one of our, our most popular topic, I would say is either a mother of the groom or mother of the bride coming in and like controlling the wedding, planning things behind their back, just taking things from the bride. How would you, like, as a, as a bride listening, if that’s something they’re going through, how would you handle that situation?

Like right off the bat?

Mariah Humbert: So let’s even go before that can even happen. So coming up with a really clear game plan with your partner is going to be key here. So you are actually setting intentional time to sit together and make a game plan. You know what your parents are like, right? And so you can kind of anticipate how, not always, but you can try to anticipate how the dominoes are gonna fall or how the puzzle pieces are gonna fall into place.

And so having that conversation ahead of time where you can say, this is our game plan. This is the, you know, we’re agreeing on this. This is our plan of action, so that if things do kind of hit the wall, you can go in as a couple. Mm-hmm. I also say when you have any kind of. Issue arising with a family member.

In my opinion, it’s very important for that member of the couple to handle that, their respective family. Um, so, you know, if you have to have those difficult conversations, you can both be involved, but let that member of the couple lead. Um, but I think that with that really kind of laying down the law in the beginning of this is what our vision is, this is what we’re doing.

Um, but it gets tricky too, and this is, we can dive deeper in this. It’s very nuanced when you have. Family member is contributing financially, and you have to give up a little bit of that control. So I would say before an issue can even happen, get ahead of it by really having a clear game plan with your partner.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I know. I feel like I try to say when we get these stories, I’m like, there’s usually some kind of red flag or some kind of hint ahead of time that maybe something’s going to erupt. I don’t feel like it always comes from left field, like, whoa, I’ve never seen this side. Sometimes I’m sure it does. Um, but I feel like a lot of times there’s like, oh, she did make comments that about blank, so then it kind of happens this way.

So I love that you said that.

Mariah Humbert: And etiquette too, I always say is that it’s really just a fancy word for social awareness and emotional intelligence. So if you can really tap into that and try and anticipate or get ahead of what these issues might be, you can also, um, you know, so much of success in relationships comes from that communication and preparation.

Um, so I always say have, have those game plans set aside ahead of time. It really makes a big difference. And I, and I also tell people, if you know that you’re going to have a particularly difficult family member, where can you give them the place to feel valued in another area? So if you know that your mother-in-law or your mom or somebody, your aunt, grandmother, whatever sister, whatever it is, is going to try and take over in some way, get ahead of that by giving them a job before they can take away something that’s super important to you.

So, for example, if you’re like, I don’t even know what colors, this is such a random example, but I don’t even know what colors I wanna do for invitations. Uh, you know, we’re having trouble making a decision. You’re, you have such a good eye for that. Can you do some research of, um, you know, within the style of wedding that we’re trying to have, can you come up with some ideas? Make them feel valued and needed in a, in an area that is not super, super key to you.

Um, and that might, may help them let off. In some other areas, but listen, I mean, sometimes it’s not perfect and you have to put your foot down and have those difficult conversations.

Christa Innis: Yeah. And so you also brought up like when they are financially helping in some way, so what’s your take on that? If they are helping?

Do they have more of a say in controlling the wedding? Or how, how do they that, how does that come into play?

Mariah Humbert: So in my first book, I talk about this kind of step by step, way of having these conver the, the financial conversations with your family members. So the, the first one is obviously having the conversation with your partner, doing the research in advance.

So, you know, not exactly how much things cost, but okay, I wanna have a large wedding in this geographical area with, you know, maybe. This, this band, this is the general cost of what things are going to be. So then when you take the conversation to your family members, it’s not a free for all. You’ve done your research, you have a, it’s almost like you’re treating it as a business meeting.

You have an agenda of what you wanna cover. You’re also taking into consideration the timing of the meeting. It’s only for the people who need to be involved. There’s not extra voices, right? So you have maybe one with your in-laws and one with your parents, depending on who’s financially contributing.

And then you really, you know, with the willingness to compromise and be flexible in areas, you have to be straightforward and confident in your questions of saying, are you able to contribute? Are you, um, how much are you able to contribute? Being straightforward about those questions. And then again, that balance of power over decisions.

What is super non-negotiable for you and your partner, sacred to you, important to you? Those decisions should be made by you. And I think we live in this new era now too, where. Not all, but, but some parents are starting to understand that these events are for the couple and not a family reunion. Yeah. Um, but I think it’s, it’s about letting them feel valued and included in, in places where you might not have a tight grip on.

Christa Innis: Yes. No, I think that’s such an important thing to say because you. I think a lot of times it’s miscommunication and I think it’s all out of love. Yes. And where they just, they’re very excited. Right. So they want Yes. Involved. And so it comes off as like sometimes it can be controlling and sometimes it can be like, they’re taking this from me.

Right. Where you make a good point where it’s like, okay, in the beginning, sit down together, have this conversation and not saying that’s gonna solve all problems. I’ve read some wild stories where totally. Where no matter what, there’s gonna be something happening. Um. But that’s, that’s a really good point, and just kind of like having control in the beginning of being like, we looked this through, this is what we can afford here.

Yes. If you wanna help in this area, that would be really helpful.

Mariah Humbert: Another point too with that is, you know, now that we live in this modern time of different financial contributions, right? In the past it was like the bride’s family paid for the wedding, and that’s sort of how it went. Mm-hmm. Now there’s so many different methods of paying for weddings.

Couples are paying them for them by themselves. Both families are contributing, one family is contributing. And so if you have both families contributing, even if it’s the not, not the same monetary value. Giving them kind of equal responsibility. So for example, don’t, don’t have one, you know, family member pay for the table linens, and then one family member is paying for the most important, you know, the, the vendor or the vendors that day, like the photographer or this or that.

Try and split it so that, you know, one takes the photographer and one takes the videographer. So it it, so it feels a little bit more equal. So nobody’s feelings are getting hurt. But I also think too, when it comes to dealing with difficult parents, like you said, it it most of the time, again, not everybody’s this lucky, but most of the time it comes out of love and excitement and most people just want to feel heard and acknowledged.

And so if they’re giving you a hard time that they’re paying for your dress and they want you in this one, sometimes that conversation needs to start with I hear where you’re coming from, you’re excited, and you know what? You’ve been so gracious to pay for this, so your opinion does matter to me however.

Mm-hmm. And then you go into, you know, this is my day. This means so much to me. But just telling them that their opinion matters to you. Most people just wanna feel heard. Right. Right.

Christa Innis: And I know, I feel like it always starts off as this little thing that maybe like someone misheard or something happened and then it just keeps growing, growing, and growing.

And before you know it, it’s a full on explosion. Totally. And invite people. And it’s wild how, um, I feel like a lot of these stories are sent to me. Just a little bit of communication could have maybe helped it not, again, not all cases. I don’t want people being like, it couldn’t helped in mine. Um, but I think a lot of situations it could.

Mariah Humbert: Absolutely. And then everybody’s emotions are so high during this time. Yes, it’s excitement and it’s joy, but it’s also stress and it’s emotional for the couple, and it’s emotional for the parents. And so again, clear communication that’s not throwing it at a family dinner where there’s 10 people at the table.

It’s pulling people aside. It’s making intentional time for these conversations and just constantly trying to get ahead of the issue. If you can.

Wedding Gift Etiquette, Thank You Notes, and Handling Uninvited Guests

Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah, I love that. Okay, so I reached out to my audience on different platforms and asked for some etiquette questions. Yay. Things they’re going through or things they’ve seen.

Okay. So it says, I was told if you went to someone’s first wedding and gave a gift, you don’t have to give one at the second wedding.

Mariah Humbert: I’m going to disagree with that, but I always say that the gesture of giving a gift is much more about the gesture and not about the monetary value. Um, so perhaps your gift is not of the same monetary value, but it’s something that you’re sending that works with your budget.

Um, that would be the gracious thing to do in that situation.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I couldn’t imagine like, especially someone that you really care about if they found their new love, like, doesn’t matter, the first wedding didn’t work out. I couldn’t imagine showing up and not giving a gift. But like, if there’s someone important to me and I’m going to their wedding, I want to bring them something.

Mariah Humbert: Totally agree. And it’s about the gesture, not about how much you spend.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I love that. Okay. “What’s a tactful, easy to ask if they received my gift. If some time has passed and you haven’t received a thank you card.”

Mariah Humbert: I get this question a lot, so I, there’s two, two ways you can go about this. Um, the first one would be to give them a heads up in the beginning.

And I wanna let you know there’s a package coming your way. Um, please let me know that you received it. Um, otherwise I think that there’s no issue in kindly reaching out and saying, I know there’s so much going on with the mail these days. I wanna ensure that. Our gift made it to you and you don’t need to make it about, oh, I I, you may have not gotten to thank thank you notes yet or anything like that, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with ensuring that your gift made it to someone.

Christa Innis: Yeah, because I’ve definitely done that before. Just like reaching out, being like, Hey, it looks like it arrived. Just wanna make sure, or like same, same as you said, like mail’s kind of weird. Just wanna make sure you got the package. Um, ’cause I have heard like very. I don’t know how to say it. People that didn’t get thank yous and calling that out specifically.

Some, a friend of mine told me a story where she was like, I had a great aunt of somebody. They basically call me out and say, why haven’t you written thank yous yet? And it was like around the holidays, like a lot was going on and she’s like, so I felt very targeted.

Mariah Humbert: So I, I’m, I’m a big proponent of thank you notes,obviously. I’m etiquette trainer, like I obviously still champion handwritten thank you notes, but I will say that it’s poor etiquette to point out poor etiquette. So if you know, you can think to yourself that I love thank you notes. So when someone doesn’t send one, I’m totally noticing, but I would never point that out.

But that’s a generational thing. I mean, I get comments on my social media from the older generation saying, what do I do when I’ve sent so many nice wedding gifts and I have not received thank you notes? And the answer is nothing. You know, it’s not a, you weren’t giving the gift for something in return, right?

So there’s nothing for you to do. But for the people listening, write your thank you notes.

Christa Innis: I love a thank you note. I, I’m right there with you. I love a handwritten thank you note. Thank you note. I remember my husband and I after our wedding, I was like, we like split out, like all the people that came to the wedding or just gift.

And I was like, okay, we need to get like 10 done a day. So smart.

What do you think the proper, like time frame after a wedding is to be able to send one?

Mariah Humbert: A wedding is different than a regular thank, you know, obviously, because you have to take into, into consideration honeymoons. Maybe people are, you know, moving in together. There’s, it’s a big life event.

So I would say, you know, if you could do it in six, from six to eight weeks from your wedding, that would be ideal. However, it’s never too late. So if life comes up and you haven’t gotten to them and you’re thinking to yourself, this is past the point of no return, it’s not, you can still send them.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Um, “should you give a gift at the wedding and the shower if you’re invited to both.”

Mariah Humbert: So this is very geographical. I found in my research when I was writing my book. So I was raised in the, in the northeast, and the custom here is that you typically give a physical gift for the shower off the registry, and then you would give a monetary gift for the wedding. That’s the way that we do it in the northeast.

But I understand that it’s not that way everywhere. Um, I know the south, they like physical gifts and you know, in other places it’s, um, so I think that again, I would recommend doing a gift for both, whether that be a monetary gift or a physical gift. 

Now, a few things to consider. Consider your budget. Again, like I said about the gifts originally, this is about the gesture of you giving the gift, not the actual gift, right? It’s not about the actual monetary value. So do what you can think about it ahead of time. Come up with the budget for the gift, and then split that between, or if you perhaps wanna do something larger for the shower, you do something smaller for the actual wedding.

Um, and in most places in the country, I have to say, ’cause not all, it’s not proper to bring a physical gift to the wedding unless it’s a card with a monetary gift.

Christa Innis: Mm. Yeah. I feel like that’s pretty normal. Like where I’m from, the Midwest, like we. Typically we’ll bring like the physical gift to the shower and it’s like a card to the wedding.

I think in our old wedding we had a few people bring gifts. Mm-hmm. Like off the registry, which was great. We just didn’t, we didn’t expect it.

Mariah Humbert: Right.

Christa Innis: Um, but yeah, I feel like that’s a great idea of like thinking about your overall budget. Like okay, I know I’m invited to both my budget’s 200 or whatever, so I’m gonna do 50 for the shower and one 50 for the wine.

Exactly. That’s really smart. Exactly. Then you’re not empty handed at the shower. Um. And because I think a lot of times people think then, oh, I have to go and I have to spend all this money for both things. So thinking about it, big picture is great.

Mariah Humbert: Yeah. It doesn’t, it doesn’t need to break your, your budgets because you know, you have, you may have to travel, you may have, if you’re like me, you have 150 weddings in a year.

So it’s, you know, you have to kind of plan ahead.

Christa Innis: Yeah, so you brought up a good point, point just now saying if you have to travel, so another thing I’ve seen is if you do have to travel to a wedding, like playing for a hotel flight, all that, you don’t have to give a gift, like a monetary gift. What is your take on that?

Mariah Humbert: I’m gonna say the same exact answer is that. Something, it’s a, could be a cookbook, it could be all the friends pitch in for a gift card to their favorite restaurant. It doesn’t have to be, you’ve spent so much money traveling, so it’s, again, it, it could be a candle for their home. Right. I’m not, I’m not trying to tell people that they need to spend more than they’re able to just think about the gesture.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. Okay, great. Um, “if you are given a dress code for a wedding, but you can’t afford the new outfit to fit the dress code, what’s the proper protocol for that?”

Mariah Humbert: Oh, this is a good question. I would say to, I feel like I need a little bit more context because, you know, I, I feel like there’s a lot that you can do to work into dress codes, but I would say if it’s black tie and you can’t afford a tuxedo, then, you know, a black suit would be the best next option. I wouldn’t say don’t go, but I would say respect to the dress code as much as, as you can, there’s a reason why that couple designated this dress code for their wedding, depending on their preferences or their venue.

Um, but I feel like I would need a little more context because I feel like there’s a lot, especially as as women, that you can kind of fit into to many dress codes.

Christa Innis:  Right. Yeah. Like if it’s, if they’re like need like a very specific color, I could get that

Mariah Humbert: Right.

Christa Innis:  Very hard. But, um….

Mariah Humbert: And also there’s a lot of rental options out there too for tuxedos and for, you know, gowns, dresses. So don’t, don’t purchase one if you don’t need to. There’s plenty of rental options or borrow from one of your friends.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm.  Yeah, that’s a great idea.  Um, okay, I’ve got a couple more. Um. If I got a couple, or “if I got a gift from a couple that does not live together, should I send two separate thank yous?”

Mariah Humbert: Oh, that’s a good question too. These are really good questions. I would say, again, this will depend on the individual situation. If one member of the couple is the. The, the relationship you have. So perhaps this is, you know, your friend from college and their boyfriend that they met after college that you don’t have a great relationship with.

I would say you could send it to her home with his name on the card and that would suffice. Um, but if they’re both equally your, you know, friends as a couple, then I would send one to each home.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Okay. Great. Um, “is it acceptable to send a gift to the couple from their registry a week after the wedding?”

Mariah Humbert: Sure. Absolutely.

Christa Innis: Then last one. Um, “my family is inviting people to my wedding without asking myself or my fiance, how do I go about uninviting them?” 

Mariah Humbert: Okay. So the uninviting part I don’t think is possible at this point because. How far are you in the process? Did they send to save the date? Was it a verbal discussion? Like, where are you in the process?

You could, unfortunately, your family member is going to have to say that you’re at capacity and it’s going to be on them to have to have that difficult conversation if they’ve already sent an invitation or a save the date, without you knowing, unfortunately, there’s not much you can do about that, but I think that this is a perfect example of one of those things that you have the printed out guest list in front of your family members before you get ready to send out, save the dates, and you say. You take a look at this, you take a look at this because it’s not changing after save the dates go out.

And so this is one of those, those things that you know, but again, maybe you did have that conversation and they didn’t respect that, but you may have to have that conversation with them that we’re at capacity. This is what is ha you know, it’s not about money, it’s not about this. This is the guest list that we had and we don’t appreciate you. Inviting people that we hadn’t discussed as a family when we were originally writing out the guest list.

Because of course, if your parents are paying, they should be able to, you know, contribute to that discussion of who’s being invited. But again, that, that comes with that preparation, right? You sit down with them and you say, okay, we have 150 people, we’ve come up with a hundred and since both parents are contributing to the wedding, here’s 25 for you. Here’s 25 for you.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Yeah, definitely. I would say that’s probably like one of the most shocking things I’ve read in some of these stories. People inviting people that were never a part of the list.

Mariah Humbert:  That’s crazy.

Christa Innis: Um, yeah, like I had one that, um, the mother-in-law reprinted her own invitations and sent them out to her friends and they didn’t find out until, I think, I wanna say like someone called them or they bumped into someone. They’re like, oh, I can’t wait for your wedding. And they’re like, what!?

Mariah Humbert: Christa, this is where the etiquette, like it doesn’t eat. This is so beyond anything that like, it’s just like, holy cow.

Christa Innis: Yeah, some, that’s where, yeah, that’s where, like we were saying earlier, it’s like some of these, it’s like. You got so out of left field, you just don’t know who’s showing up. Either that, and I think it was like the mom wouldn’t tell who she invited.

She’s like, oh, just some friends. So that she wouldn’t tell. So they didn’t know who was gonna show up. They didn’t know what places, places to have. So that was probably like one of the most shocking things I’ve I’ve read.

Mariah Humbert: Certainly. Shocking. I mean, I don’t know if you put this on video, but you could see my face. I’m so shocked.

Rapid-Fire Wedding Etiquette: The Rules Everyone Argues About

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Okay. Next little segment is gonna be a rapid fire wedding etiquette edition. Um, so it’ll be kind of like a yes or no for, for these wedding etiquette questions. Okay. Okay. “Is it rude to wear white if it’s not bridal right?”

Mariah Humbert: Yes.

Christa Innis: Yeah. “Should you bring a plus one if your invite doesn’t say so?”

Mariah Humbert: Absolutely not.

Christa Innis: “Is it okay to leave before the cake is cut?” 

Mariah Humbert: Yes. Can I not rapid fire this one? Yeah. I would say again, because we, weddings come in all shapes and sizes now and not everybody does it as a big event. They might do it on the side just for a picture opportunity. They might not even have a cake.

So I would say, you know, in that case, use your judgment of when would be too early. But generally speaking it’s, it’s fine because it’s, weddings are all different now.

Christa Innis: Yeah, right. “Should you post photos before the couple does?” 

Mariah Humbert: No, and that’s again, one of those old fashioned things. Well, can’t be that old fashioned because social media is relatively new, but I would say until the, you know, the couple posts a picture, especially if you have a bride in a traditional gown, they may not wanna share those photos yet.

So, um, seems like everybody does it now, but in my opinion, it’s best not to.

Christa Innis: Yes. And put your phone away during the ceremony.

Mariah Humbert: Oh my goodness. Yes.

Christa Innis: That’s, that’s a big…

Mariah Humbert: That’s a whole other conversation.

Christa Innis: Pay, pay attention to the signs or the officiant who says, put your phone away, please. Yes. Um, “do you have to give a gift if you can’t attend?”

Mariah Humbert: Yes. But it doesn’t need to be anything crazy. Usually I, if I can’t attend, I would pick a small item off of their registry and wish them well with that.

Christa Innis: So you, so even if, let’s say it’s like someone you hardly have a relationship with, you are like really surprised you even got invited. You think still you should send something?

Mariah Humbert: Mm-hmm. I would.  

Christa Innis: Okay. That’s good to know.

Mariah Humbert: They, they, for whatever reason, hopefully they have good intentions, but for whatever reason you made that list, they wanted to celebrate the most important day of their life with you. So if you can spend $20 on it. Something to send to them and wish them well.

And if that’s not something that your budget allows, you can send them a card.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Okay, great. And do you feel the same when it comes to like other events like baby shower, bridal shower, birthday party, sending something?

Mariah Humbert: Same thing. You know, for those smaller events, a card might be plenty. Um, but the, the gesture of, you know, saying I appreciate the invitation and I’m thinking of you is, is really nice.

Christa Innis: Okay. I love that. Um. “Is it rude to decline being in a wedding?”

Mariah Humbert: No, absolutely not. I think that there’s, it’s become really a beast being a part of a wedding these days, right? It’s very financially, um, and it has a large impact financially. It takes a lot of time. You might be in a stage of your life for whatever reason that you’re not able to, and it doesn’t mean that you love that person any less.

But again, this is where as a couple, you need to kind of define the expectation in the beginning to your wedding party of what will be involved. And then if, you’re not able to accept that, to just be honest with them that this is not a time in your life that you’re able to accept this, but it doesn’t mean that their wedding means any less to you, and perhaps you can have a role somewhere else in helping.

Christa Innis: Yeah, and I feel like that’s one of those things, like we’re we’re told like, oh, to take it personal, oh, if someone doesn’t wanna be in our wedding, that’s such a bad thing. But it’s almost like kind because they’re like, they’re like. No. I can’t be my best self in your wedding.

Exactly. I’d rather be there as a guest and support you that way, and I feel like it’s a very mature response to be able to look at their financial finances or their time and be like, this is my best role.

I’m sorry.

Mariah Humbert: Again, don’t  be afraid to have those conversations. You can’t over communicate. Right. So, on, either, on either end. So don’t be afraid to, to have those conversations and don’t put yourself in a situation financially or, you know, time commitment that you’re not able to, again, like you said, show up in the best way.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Yeah. “Um, can some, can you ask someone to step down from the wedding party?”

Mariah Humbert:  Only if it’s an extreme, extreme situation.

Christa Innis: Okay. I do see that a lot of times in stories too. Um, “do you have to invite someone to the wedding if they’re invited to the shower? I see this a lot.”

Mariah Humbert: Yes. This is pr it’s proper etiquette to have, even when it comes to like, from starting with the engagement party, if you have one, again, you might not have your list.

Completely defined by then, but everybody who was invited to the engagement party should also be invited to the wedding. Obviously, the wedding will likely be larger, but everybody invited to the shower should also be going to the wedding. The exception to this is perhaps your job wants to throw you a shower or, um, you know, perhaps you’re part of a team or a, a, a hobby that you have where you don’t have a super, super close relationship with them enough to invite them to the wedding, but they have a small celebration for you. That would be kind of the exception, but the, the general shower should include people who are also invited to the wedding.

Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. I had never heard of people just getting invited to the shower until I was seeing it in comments, and these women would be like, yeah, is it weird that my niece or whatever just invited me to the shower? And I was like, yes, yes. That’s very yes.

Mariah Humbert: Yes.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Or I guess, unless maybe they’re like eloping and not having a wedding.

Mariah Humbert: Right, right. So of course there’s exceptions, right? Of course. If they’re having like a, you know, like a, like as you said, eloping or doing immediate family only, but this is the way they wanna celebrate. With the other important people in their life. But generally speaking, for a traditional wedding, everyone invited to the shower should also be invited to the wedding.

Christa Innis: Yes. Um, “can you invite someone to the reception only?

Mariah Humbert: Again, if it is a situation where it’s immediate family. And you’re having a private ceremony, and perhaps it’s a religious ceremony or whatever it is, but that would have to be like an all or nothing thing. So it would either have to be just immediate family and then all of the rest of the guests at the reception can’t just be like a handful.

Christa Innis: Right, right. All right. A couple more here. Um, “should the bride and groom greet every table?”

Mariah Humbert: Yes, in some capacity. And again, it’s, it’s hard to say because, some wedding styles don’t have that, like kind of same. Layout anymore, right? That traditional layout. But I would say in some way you should plan to greet your guests.

So even if you’re not having real, a real like sit down situation, but you have like a cocktail situation, you are both making every effort to talk to as many people as you can. And again, this doesn’t have to be like a make or break it situation, but the attempt to greet your guests is important. And if your parents are.

Are also contributing to the wedding and hosting, you may divide and conquer if there’s not enough time, right? Allow them to greet, you know, some guests, you greet some guests, but I would say in a perfect situation, you are making the time to, to visit tables.

Christa Innis: Yeah. We did something, I’ve talked about this before, but we did something called the Mission Impossible at our wedding, where they put on the Mission Impossible Music and then we had to go to every table and get a picture with all of them.

Mariah Humbert: Oh, that’s really fun.

Christa Innis: It was like a quick, fun way to like get in a picture and say like, Hey guys, and like all round up so that we didn’t feel like guilty if we didn’t. I still tried to make an effort to talk to everybody, but like, it still made us feel like, oh, we saw everybody and it was our photographer’s idea.

And she’s like, it’s a great idea. It was at so many weddings and she’s like, it makes people feel like they got to see you and like hug you for a second or chat, you know? And it was great. It was all in like three minutes.

Mariah Humbert: That’s a great idea. But I also think, you know, and I’m a big proponent of host etiquette and guest etiquette, but I think this is the one day too where guests can be.

You know, need to give the couple, the benefit of the doubt that if they don’t make it to the table, it’s not because they’re trying to be rude. Right? There’s, you have so many things to do on this day, and it goes by in a flash, and so I think that the attempt of doing it is. Is the important part, but if the execution is not perfect, don’t be hard on yourself.

This is the one day where even an etiquette trainer will allow you to slip up in that. In that case, yes. It to be realistic, right? You have to be realistic,

Christa Innis: right? Because yeah, you hear of the, like the people pleaser or like super kind bride where she spends her whole night then greeting everybody and she misses out.

So it’s like you do have to kind of take into consideration like what’s your timeline? What do you. Is talking to this person for 30 minutes actually feasible, right? Or do you need hold away?

Mariah Humbert: Right. I mean, we had a, we had a smaller, we had actually a very non-traditional wedding, but we had a smaller, um, wedding.

And even in a small wedding, like just the way the layout was, we started with the tables and then we had to sit down because something else started and we didn’t make it to every single one. Yeah. And I mean the, the, the idea was there, I would, the intention was there, but it, you know, you have to be realistic.

Christa Innis: Yeah, exactly. Um, can the bride’s mom wear the same color as bridesmaids?

Mariah Humbert: If it’s okay with the bride? Mm-hmm. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. I feel like it, because some people have very specific color palettes, so they might want all the family in black or all the family in Navy or everybody in a shade of blue. I had, I didn’t have a wedding party, but I had, you know, my mom and mother-in-law and my sister, who was my maid of honor, all in gold.

So I think it’s the, the couple’s preference. Yep.

Christa Innis: I love that. Okay, last one. “How do you handle guests who ignore the dress code?”

Mariah Humbert: There’s nothing that you can do in the moment, unfortunately. And. I would say at the ti, are you, do you think, you mean like, or this was this question maybe in in relation to like on the day?

Christa Innis: Yes. I think on the day,  if someone…

Mariah Humbert: Okay.

Christa Innis: Either wearing white or they’re wearing jeans or you know, whatever.

Mariah Humbert: I want you to be so wrapped up in being excited about your day and excited about marrying the person you’re marrying. That if someone shows up. Totally not dressed properly. It’s on them and not you.

I, I hope that you don’t even realize because you’re so engulfed in joy.

Christa Innis: I know. I had one friend that was like, so I don’t want, I dunno if so, stress is the right way to put it, but she was like overly thinking about this one uncle that wears jeans to every event and she’s like, I just don’t want him to wear jeans.

And I was like, if he does. There’s not much you can do. And like there’s no point in like starting a whole thing with his family ’cause he’s gonna wear jeans. Like if he wears jeans, he’ll be the guy in jeans. Like, and if, and then maybe he just won’t be in photos or you won’t see the bottom half of him.

You know? Um, totally Just don’t let it take away from your joy on that day. ’cause it’s something so minuscule at the end of the day.

Mariah Humbert: Totally. And I, I, I wish guests would be more careful with dress codes and really respect that. This is what the couples desired. Um, but again, it doesn’t always work out that way. But again, I hope you’re, I hope you’re so distracted by the joy of the day that you don’t even notice.

The Wedding Disaster That Somehow Became Perfect

Christa Innis:  Yeah,  exactly. Okay. Time for this week’s story submission. So, okay. Someone sent this into me. Um, feel free to stop me or I’ll take pauses. Okay. Drink some water really quick. Mm-hmm. Because I’m so like raspy.

Okay, here we go. “

When I think back on my wedding, I remember how wonderful it was and how much fun we had. I definitely don’t think about all the drama that led up to it during the planning process, but when I look at it objectively, almost every vendor aside from the main catering company was replaced before the big day.

My oldest friend ghosted me after planning a bachelorette party. I would’ve been miserable at. And my niece ripped the front of my dress right before I walked down the aisle. Yet still, it was truly an amazing day.” Well, that’s a good way to start it. That she’s like, it’s…

Mariah Humbert: I’m like, uhoh, what’s coming?

Christa Innis: Like, she looked at it very positively.

Mariah Humbert: Right.

Christa Innis: All these terrible things happen, but it was still great.

Mariah Humbert: I like her attitude.

Christa Innis: Yes. I feel like a lot of it does have to do with like your attitude and your outlook on the day because Totally. You could let rain ruin your day or you could be like, you know what, look how beautiful these photos are gonna be. You know?

Mariah Humbert: Yes. Perspective is everything.

Christa Innis: Yes. Um, my husband and I chose to get married on my grandparents’ 66th, the wedding anniversary. It was a special date and since my grandfather was ill, we wanted to honor them while. While we still could, we booked a local venue and went through a list of approved vendor vendors, selected a catering company that also provided a day of coordinator.

Two days before the wedding, I received an email that the coordinator I had worked with for months was no longer with the company. A woman I had never met who I also didn’t meet on the, on the day of was taking her place. She assured me everything would be handled, and to her credit, most of it was. But something fell through the cracks.

We had brought s sentimental items like custom cake knife my brother-in-law made, and the champagne flutes from my husband’s grandparents’ wedding for our cake cutting and toast. These never made it to our reception because the new coordinator didn’t know about them and didn’t return my calls the day before the review to review details.

Mariah Humbert: Okay.

Christa Innis: Our videographer was another disaster. I paid a hefty deposit, but two months before the wedding, he told me he was moving outta state, couldn’t refund the money, and then blocked my number and stopped responding to emails. How, I mean, how do you even handle that situation if they block you that like. 

Mariah Humbert: that’s cr, I mean, I maybe you get involved legally.

Christa Innis: I feel like that’s the only way at that point, that’s the only way is that contact them. Right. That’s terrible. Just because he is moving outta state. You wanna lose your… 

Mariah Humbert: This is all the same person that’s had this. Oh goodness.

Christa Innis: It’s wild. Oh my gosh. Thankfully we found another videographer who had a last minute cancellation and could fit us in for a smaller package within our reduced budget. And now you’re out that money till you know you can get it.

Mariah Humbert: Right. That’s why I was saying maybe you need to get involved legally. I don’t, you know?

Christa Innis: Yeah. A week before the wedding, the photographer I had booked was in a car accident. Oh my gosh. This poor bride and groom. And need a knee surgery. The company assigned a replacement photographer who showed up in a short cheetah print dress in fishnet tights.

Her assistant handled the groomsman photos, but never got a solo shot of my husband, even though it was on the shot list. The photographer did a solid job, but her personality and style weren’t what I wouldn’t have chosen if I had a choice. I feel like if you go through like a bigger company and they assign someone you don’t really know.

We are gonna get or what they’re gonna wear. You don’t really have a say on that. Right? I agree. Because that’s what we did and we got really lucky. Like our girl was awesome, she was great and really hands-on, but you don’t really, that’s kinda like the price you pay if you don’t meet them. Right, right.

Um, still I was grateful we had someone there to capture the day. Three weeks before the wedding, our DJ canceled due to a family emergency. 

Mariah Humbert: My goodness.

Christa Innis: This is like a tale. This doesn’t even sound like.

Mariah Humbert: I know it’s a true story, but it doesn’t even sound like it could be.

Christa Innis: No, something’s gotta get sent to me. I like will post and people are like, this can’t be true. And I’m like, I don’t know. This is…

Mariah Humbert: No. A real human wrote it.

Christa Innis: Someone sent it into me. We couldn’t find anyone else on short notice, so we made our own playlist, over 300 songs organized by the event, pre ceremony, ceremony, cocktail hour dinner, and reception. We even spaced out slow and fast songs for a balance and labeled all the key moments like our first dance. Good on them. That’s amazing.

Mariah Humbert: I was going to say, they really are making lemonade out of lemons here. Yes. I think that this is such a good foundation for a really happy and healthy life together with being able to, you know. Figure out all of these solutions at such a high stress time. In the moment, I’m sure they were not thinking about that. They were panicking, but in hindsight, uh, kudos to them.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Honestly, that’s a really good point about like your wedding day and like the, the planning up to it is a really good example of how are you gonna tackle, like issues that come up in your marriage or issues that come up.

Mariah Humbert: Conflict resolution and communication.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Mariah Humbert:  But with that being said, it still sucks.

Christa Innis: Yes, it definitely still sucks and I feel like you can still feel upset about those things. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, she said, unfortunately, once the reception started, a guest decided to hit shuffle completely undoing hours of careful planning.

Mariah Humbert: Oh my goodness.

Christa Innis: Our cake was another curve ball. When my mother-in-law picked it up the night before the wedding, it looked nothing like what we had ordered. After the rehearsal, she brought it to me and spent an hour scraping off the icing and reapplying it to look closer to the inspiration photo. Oh my gosh.

Mariah Humbert: Oh my gosh. This is horrible.

Christa Innis: And then my mom was hospitalized with a kidney infection just four days. I’m like, when does it stop?

Mariah Humbert: Is, is there still more to read?

Christa Innis: There’s still more. There’s still like three paragraphs.

Mariah Humbert: Oh my goodness. This poor couple.

Christa Innis: I’m like, I’m glad that it started with, it was a great day.

Mariah Humbert: And I love her. Right. I love her attitude. I love her attitude. This is, but she has a right to kind of like stamp her, stomp her foot.

Christa Innis: Yes. This is like a full on, you can make this into a movie or something. Right. Right.

My mom was hospitalized with a kidney infection just four days before the wedding. She needed surgery, but was released the morning of, she attended the wedding in a wheelchair and went home after the first dances to rest. Oh my gosh. That’s so sad.

Mariah Humbert: It’s breaking. Oh.

Christa Innis: Some of my favorite photos from that night are of my husband pushing her wheelchair onto the dance floor so we could share our mother-daughter dance. Aw. I didn’t have a maid of honor, just a group of bridesmaids, but my oldest friend tried to take over the bachelorette planning.

I had planned that, I had explained that because our group ranged from ages 17 to 38. I didn’t want to go to bars that my, so my underage sister couldn’t go. Um. So we, and we also needed to keep things budget friendly. I wanted something relaxing and fun with my closest friends and family.

She ignored all of that. Booked an expensive Airbnb, insisted on going to a nightclub and made dinner reservations at a five star steakhouse costing over a hundred dollars per person without drinks. Soon, four of the eight girls called to apologize saying they couldn’t afford it, but still wanted to be a part of the wedding.

At that point, I stepped in, canceled the $600 per person weekend, and planned a cozy hotel night instead. Pizza, junk food, cheesy movies. Um. It cost under $75 each and was exactly what I wanted. My friend ghosted me afterwards and never spoke to me again despite my attempts to reach out. Oh my gosh. Okay.

The day before the wedding, my brother-in-law made a fun of a groomsmen’s suit color and my made fun of the groomsman suit color, and my husband agreed. It was terrible. Until we realized it wasn’t the color we chose.

Mariah Humbert: Oh my gosh.

Christa Innis: Oh no. Men’s warehouse had mixed up the order for every groomsman. After a flurry of calls and panic, another brother-in-law found matching ties at Macy’s and Men’s Warehouse swapped out the vest to coordinate with the gray suits. Crisis averted. Then came the wedding day itself. Oh my gosh. I really hope nothing bad happens on the wedding day.

Mariah Humbert: Oh my goodness.

Christa Innis: Since we didn’t have a DJ and I never met the new coordinator, we asked a friend to play the ceremony music, and as the wedding party walked down the aisle, my flower girls, my nieces were the last to go.

One of them got her shoe caught on the tool of my dress, tearing it right where right before I was supposed to walk, I tried to signal the music guy to pause, but he started playing my walk in music anyway, so I tore the rest of my, so I tore off the rest of the tool layer, stuffed it in a bush, and kept walking like nothing happened. This girl is a rock star.

Mariah Humbert: I bow down to her. I really do. She, you know what, that makes me think that this girl is quick on her feet. She’s, she’s got good perspective. Yeah. I, kudos to her.

Christa Innis: It is. She’s like, you know what? I didn’t need that layer anyway. No, whoop rigShe’s a problem solver.

Mariah Humbert: Like, she’s like redesigning her wedding gown seconds before she’s walking down the aisle. It’s, she’s definitely quick on her V and that’s a really good skill to have in life.

Christa Innis: It is. She’s like, you know what? I didn’t need that layer anyway. No, whoop right off click on her. Yeah. It makes me wonder like what she does for work. She must be like an event coordinator.

Mariah Humbert: Right. Like thinking quick something where you have to be flexible and, and quick on your feet and good at making decisions fast.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Um. To top it off, the dress itself wasn’t even the one I had ordered. But it was still beautiful, honestly. So was everything else. The day may not have gone as planned, but it was perfect in its own way. I married the love of my life and we smiled all night.

Mariah Humbert: I think this is a good lesson for everybody and obviously you put your heart and soul in planning the good day and or the best day and you know, you want things to go perfectly and you want things to be great for your guests and, but you, you really sometimes have to take a step back and it’s so hard when you’re so in it.

I mean, I’m recently married so I remember being so in it, but you take a step back and. Think about, you know, you’re marrying the person that you want to hopefully, and you’re in a room filled with the most important people in your life, which doesn’t happens like at your wedding and then like later in life, right, right.

For a not so happy day. So if you can really focus and have that perspective and zoom out and look at the big picture and which I think that this, this person did a wonderful job at, I think it’s a good lesson for everyone.

Christa Innis: I love that. Yeah, I’ve, I’ve been saying this to people before too, like for my wedding, like I felt like at that point I remember my makeup artist saying like, you are one of the most calm brides I’ve ever done makeup for.

And I was like, well, I figure at this point all my friends and family are here. If something happens. What am I gonna do?

Mariah Humbert: That’s how I felt too on the day of, I was not so chill leading up to it. But on the day, I actually surprised myself. Yeah. But I had the same feeling. I was like, everybody’s that the most important people in my life are here.

So if we sit on the ground and eat pizza, that, you know, like it is what it is. It’s, I get to marry the person I love with the people around me that mean the most. That’s really what it’s with that being said, you are allowed to throw a little fit to yourself. If something doesn’t go, it doesn’t go wrong.

Yeah. As long, I mean, doesn’t go right as long as it’s to yourself.

Christa Innis: Yes. No, absolutely. ’cause I feel like every bride I talked to there, if you look back, I’m sure there’s a couple whole slip ups or a couple things of course happened the the way it was supposed to. Um, but yeah, it is about perspective and being able to look back and just being like, okay, this is like, the most amazing people in my life are here and I’m just, you know, grateful to be surrounded by them. 

Mariah Humbert: Um, yes, and some things you can’t control, right? You try and control so much when you plan your wedding, but some things are just totally out of your control.

Perspective is Everything: Stress Less, Celebrate More

Christa Innis: Yeah, no, for sure. So what would you say, um, like some, like parting advice, as I always, I read confessions.

At the end of this, but with this story and just like people that are maybe in the midst of their wedding planning right now, what’s some like, just parting advice you would say when it comes to like etiquette and planning? Um, maybe wedding stress, um, that kind of comes to mind. I know that’s kind of like a big ballpark, but.

Anything that comes to mind.

Mariah Humbert: I think it, it really goes back to what I said before, that this is the, the day that you, your job is to balance how can I create a great experience for my guests and respect my family and the people contributing to the wedding, but not allow that to take away from me having the day that my partner and I dream of having. You know, how can I respect traditions that are important with my, for my family, but also bring in things that really mean to mean a lot to us as a couple.

Um, so I think that the details are so important because it’s what makes the day. But I think that that story again was the perfect example of, of having a good attitude and communicating well and not letting the stress get the best of you. if you’re really in it that’s such a, I probably would’ve rolled my eyes if someone said that to me when I was planning, like, don’t get the stress, don’t let the stress get to you. But when I look back, I think the one thing I wish I did differently was stress a little less.

And so I think it’s, if you can really focus on that, you’re so socially aware and emotionally and aware that you’re having your dream day, but you’re not forgetting that you’re also touching other people’s lives in the in the process of it. And you kind of have the power to make that a good experience for everyone involved.

Christa Innis: Yeah, that makes me think of too, it’s like if you wake up on the wrong side of the bed, you know, and like something happens, like you stub your toe, it’s gonna be the worst thing in the world. When you wake up and like the sun’s shining and you st your toe, you’re just gonna like laugh it off.

Mariah Humbert: It’s so true.

Christa Innis: It’s like, it’s all about that perspective of like, if you start your day off and you’re like. Three things are gonna go wrong today, whatever. And you just like, enjoy the day and enjoy being surrounded by people. It’s gonna be such a better experience.  You don’t want those little, like, little things get to you. 

Mariah Humbert: Exactly. It’s so hard, but it’s true.

The Weirdest Wedding Gifts & Modern Etiquette Tips

Christa Innis: Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. I always like to like end these with confessions that people send me. Um, so here we go. These are, I always have to zoom in ’cause my eyes. Okay. Um, so.

These are okay. Talking about like wedding gifts and giving people, um, gifts at showers. These are weirdest gifts that people have received.

Mariah Humbert:  Oh, this is fun. Okay.

Christa Innis: Um, “this says a used Turkey roaster.

Mariah Humbert: Used. Okay.

Christa Innis: That’s probably not very good etiquette.

Mariah Humbert: Okay. Yeah. Don’t listen. I, it’s okay to regift, but it doesn’t, it can’t be used.

Christa Innis: Um, “my husband’s friend gave us a candle and a gallon zip lock full of condoms.” Okay. I did not read that whole thing.

Mariah Humbert: Hey. All right.

Christa Innis: Um, my boss, who was both of our bosses, got us one round TV tray, not one, or not two, one for $10.

Okay. Um. All right, last one here. My father-in-law got a box full of ketchup as a wedding gift, and he loved it. Know your options.

Mariah Humbert: I guess, to each their own maybe that’s what he loves. Maybe that person, but maybe that was the best gift giver because they purchased something for him that he loves. Yeah. Right. It’s about, again, I had, it said it a million times. It’s about the gesture and thinking of the person more so than the monetary value.

Christa Innis: Yes. What’s your take on? Um, ’cause I never thought this was a thing until people were posting, um, wearing black to a wedding.

Mariah Humbert: The, I think that this is very outdated back in the day, it was, you know, much more suited as a color of mourning. It was a more serious color. And, um, but I think that that has evolved over time.

And black can be really chic. Um. That doesn’t mean that it’s black tie, you have to wear black, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wearing black it. It’s also a, a cultural thing too. Different colors at different weddings. So if you’re attending a wedding of a culture that is different from yours, you might wanna do some research or ask a family member of the couple of what the proper protocol is.

Okay. But generally speaking, there’s nothing wrong with wearing black.

Christa Innis: Okay. That’s what I know. I was like reading all these stories about people showing up in black and it seen as a bad thing. And I was like, I think I’ve worn black to a couple weddings, but like. I don’t know. Yeah, I think that’s outdated.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I’m so glad…

Mariah Humbert: Oh, my pleasure.

Christa Innis: To connect. I’ve learned so much from you, and I’m sure our audience will too, because I’m always ending questions about etiquette and like, especially when it comes to weddings and events. So this was so awesome.

Mariah Humbert: Well, thank you for having me. This was such a fun conversation.

Christa Innis: And so, um, before you go, can you just share again your social handles where people can find you, the names of your books and all that good stuff? Sure.

Mariah Humbert: So my website is www.oldsouletiquette.com. I’m on Instagram and TikTok as Mariah Grumet Humbert, H-U-M-B-E-R-T.

Um, my first book is, “What Do I Do: Every Wedding Etiquette Question Answered.” And the second book is The Essential Wedding Planner. Awesome. I love it.

Christa Innis: We’ll link them below as well so people can check you. 

Mariah Humbert: Thank you.

Christa Innis:  Thanks so much!


Follow-up Story: My Future MIL Confronted Me in a Pantry

What happens when your future mother-in-law corners you in the pantry to accuse you of ruining her son’s life? That’s exactly what went down in today’s jaw-dropping episode.

We reconnect with an anonymous guest, who now returns to share how her wedding journey unraveled into a powder keg of emotion, betrayal, and a confrontation she’ll never forget.

If you’ve ever questioned a wedding’s red flags, this story will stay with you. From a fiancé caught in the middle to a mother-in-law determined to divide, this episode is a must-listen.

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Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

03:13 Engagement and Initial Red Flags

03:45 Mother-in-Law’s Demands Begin

04:52 First Major Incident: Venue Address

08:13 Boundary Issues and Kitchen Confrontation

11:56 Fiance’s Call and Silent Treatment

16:55 4th of July Weekend Tensions

20:43 Handling Emotional Conflict

22:11 The Pantry Confrontation

28:19 Post-Confrontation Reflections

31:22 Dress Shopping and Relationship Dynamics

33:25 Premarital Counseling and Lessons Learned

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • Pantry Blowup – A quiet moment at the rehearsal dinner turns into a private ambush from the mother-in-law.
  • Caught in the Middle – The fiancé’s struggle to balance loyalty between partner and parent creates more chaos.
  • Crossing the Line – The mother-in-law’s accusations include controlling her son’s life and “changing him.”
  • Silent Treatment Strategy – Post-fight, the MIL goes silent, leaving tension boiling under the surface.
  • A New Kind of Wedding Day – Despite everything, the couple finds their own way to move forward—with boundaries.
  • Delayed Fallout – A honeymoon doesn’t stop the drama. The emotional scars show up weeks later.
  • The Support That Mattered – The groom’s eventual stand for his partner offers a moment of healing.
  • Telling the Story – The power of sharing your experience and being heard, even years later.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “If you’re scared to speak up at your own wedding, that’s a red flag.”Christa Innis
  • “Respecting boundaries doesn’t make you difficult—it makes you self-aware.”Christa Innis
  • “A wedding should never be the battleground for someone else’s unresolved issues.”Christa Innis
  • “Silence doesn’t mean peace—it just means someone’s swallowing their feelings.”Christa Innis
  • “Just because it’s tradition doesn’t mean it’s healthy.”Christa Innis
  • “I knew the moment she opened that pantry, something was going to explode.”Anonymous Guest
  • “It wasn’t just about the wedding—it was about control.” Anonymous Guest
  • “She made me feel like I was stealing her son, not marrying him.”Anonymous Guest
  • “I kept waiting for someone to stand up for me, but no one did.”Anonymous Guest
  • “You think family drama will die down after the wedding, but it only gets louder.”Anonymous Guest

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Note: We use AI transcription so there may be some inaccuracies

Christa Innis: Hi there. Thanks for joining me. Thanks for having me. I’m so excited. All right, so before we started recording, we said we are gonna keep you anonymous today because we have a kind of crazy story to dive into today. for those of you guys listening, they’re like, what is she talking about?

 I think it was episode, I wrote notes down here, episode seven. I had Suzanne Lambert on and we read was one of the craziest stories. I think one of the kind of intense mother-in-law story. It involved, a lot of, anguish, a debate and a pantry on 4th of July and a lot of drama that went up, from there and.

This was such an interesting story to us, and we were like, I think you ended it with part two coming soon because you’re about to do your bridesmaid or no, your wedding dress shopping. So I was like, I have so many questions, let’s reach out to her and see if she wants to come on the podcast. So here you are.

So I appreciate you for being vulnerable and coming on and sharing.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, no, uh, thanks. I mean. Honestly, like it was such a crazy story and I just think, I was just like, well, someone’s gotta hear this, whether it’s for entertainment purposes or therapeutic for me, I was just like, someone’s gotta hear this, so it’s good.

Yeah. Yeah.

Christa Innis: So if you guys have not listened to the full episode, I would recommend you guys go back to episode seven and give it a listen. but let’s just do some quick bullet points here. We’ll kinda walk through it together. I might also put a little, audio clip from it so you guys can hear some of the crazy moments there.

But starting off, you said, my fiance and I got engaged in April. We were excited to plan our wedding for next September, and his mother has always been supportive, often teasing him about proposing. So when we called to share the news. She barely finished saying congratulations before asking if she could go dress shopping because she only has two sons, so I’m not gonna read the whole thing, obviously.

But then getting into it, the red flags started appearing when you guys all got together. At, I think, was it an engagement party?

Anonymous Guest: It was at our house with Father’s Day weekends. Okay. We were hosting all the men in our lives. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Okay. And so at that point was when she started to demand to know the venue, address.

So tell us what went down here and oh, actually I wanna know first before all of this, did you guys consider her like a good relationship? Like have a good relationship with her?

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, no, we had a great relationship and like it, my fiance’s relationship with his mom was always good.

Ours was good. She was very supportive of us. And I even noted, but his grandma was pa in the process of passing away and on her deathbed was like, you have to marry this girl in two months. And he is like, you’re nuts. And of course we wanted to get engaged, but there was like a lot of family support including his dying grandma, his mother, like all these people.

And so there was never really any signs of any like, anguish as you said, like, or upset feelings. really until. Like the wedding started coming to fruition and that like maybe we were making decisions that were for us and nobody else. So I think that’s kind of maybe where that happened or. Maybe her perception of how that was starting to unfold was different than the reality.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Okay, so let’s go to that first moment. Yeah. Where she starts pressuring you to tell the address, even though the month was still like a year out, and you said this is the name of it. We actually haven’t even been there yet. So what happened? What all went down?

The Text Message Debacle

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, it was crazy. It was like, so we were sitting in our living room just having like normal Father’s Day watching golf kind of thing.

And we had told her where we were getting married. we kind of had left out details from the beginning just as we were figuring them out, told her. And then, you know, she was like, can you send me the address? And I was like, well, I already shared it with you. And she’s like, well, I delete my text messages, which is something that I know you guys noted the first time.

Yeah. We were like, what is she saying? They were like, who does this? And I was like, no, she’s just somebody that’s just like, just delete. Them? I don’t know. I don’t know. She actually

Christa Innis: does. She wasn’t just saying

Anonymous Guest: that goes through and she just like deletes all, every thread. It gets deleted like every day kind of thing.

So she doesn’t keep anything. Oh. And she doesn’t have a, you know, she just doesn’t keep anything. So I knew that originally she was asking ’cause like she didn’t have it. but then, you know, as time went on, she started like, and I said, well, why do you need it? I told you we were getting married.

And she’s like, well, because I wanna go and I wanna go see where the hotels are in p. And because it’s not so far from where she lives, all this stuff. And I was just like, oh, no, no, no, no. You know? And I, I was just like, no, that’s like really not necessary. We have it all figured out. It. April and our wedding is the following September.

So we were so far away time I couldn’t even open a room block if I wanted to. And so my fiance and I were just like, what? So, this is kind of happening and this is like starting that conversation again. We’re just very casual and she’s just like, no, like, just send me it. And I was like, well, it seems as though you wanna go there.

And like that’s not, we haven’t even been, and I’m trying to like bridge and bridge and understand and like. Really press this down kind of quickly and as amicably as possible because I’m just, she keeps pressing and then I keep trying to bridge it. and so that was like the first of what I,thought were like three major incidents within this incident of a day was her pestering about the venue.

And it was just so shocking to us. ’cause we were like. why are you pressing on this so hard right now at this time and this day? Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah. It’s like, where is this all coming from? All of a sudden you have to go see it and it’s like, how can she not see that this is a special moment for you and your fiance at the time of being able to like go to the venue together, see together for the first time before people coming in, in with their opinions.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah. and we, to this day, still have not seen it, which is hilarious because I planned our whole wedding around a venue I’ve literally never seen. but that’s the thing is I was just like, I don’t know when I’m gonna go. I don’t have plans to go. As of right now, it’s four hours away from where we live.

Like this is just the reality of it. And just because you were closer, let’s not like prioritize You’re needing this to go. Also, I was expressing it to private property. Like it’s not like you can just show up like a ballroom or a hotel. You can’t just show up. And then, my fear was that like, as she was pressing, I started to realize, well maybe she would go and, go to the property and start talking to these people and having conversations that I was not a part of.

And so I kind of started spiraling myself and that’s where I think I started getting more worked up by the thoughts of it. of what could happen. Mm-hmm. And just try, like I said, just trying to shut it down in that moment, really. Yeah. as kindly as possible.

Christa Innis: Yeah. ’cause it’s totally understandable to be like excited be like, if you want me included, I would love to be a part of it, but to then press, especially after you’re like, well, we haven’t even seen it ourselves.

It’s a private property. You can’t just show up. And she’s still pushing for it. So then she corners you. In the kitchen. How does that all happen? And does this kind of fizzle out first and you guys are like, just kinda like moving up past it? like what are other people doing during this time? Like are they looking at this like.

Is this still happening?

“Aren’t You Just So Happy?”

Anonymous Guest: well, we have a kind of open concept floor, so like our kitchen’s connected to our living room and connected, and we were kind of outside, so we had a group outside, like no one was really in the house anymore, and she’d kind of come inside and we were in the kitchen together and everyone else was kind of outside, which is a very similar, like kind of set up as it was when we were in the pantry situation, which don’t get to, but, and she was just, expressing that she was like.

Are you just so happy? I’m gonna be your mother-in-law. And I was just like, in the moment, I was taken aback because I’m like. Why are you asking this? Like, is this something you’re really concerned about? Like, am I so happy? Am I so not? Because I’ve obviously been maybe giving off some energy that, I was not as excited by your excitement to go to the venue and I was kinda shutting that down and then I shut down the conversation with my bachelorette party, and so I’m like, are you kind of getting the vibe that my energy is coming back to you in a different way and now you’re trying to get validation through me by saying, aren’t you just so happy?

 I tried to like, address it as head on as possible and just say like, yeah, of course I am, but here’s what’s happening right now, is that like, I feel as though you’re kind of, you’re trying to step on this, what I would call a boundary and saying like, my boundary is that you don’t go to the venue and you don’t, like this is the situation and I would just appreciate that you kind of let us handle it.

And, I didn’t again realize at the time the weight of the words I was saying. Again, I was trying to be as amicable as possible, be very choosy with my words and being kind. And ultimately like I wanted to be kind to her and, just express clearly how I was feeling. And I did not realize the weight of the word boundary.

 and how like significant it would play into the rest of.

Christa Innis: She’s held onto that grip on it. They don’t do boundaries in this family. Gorilla

Anonymous Guest: Grip, gorilla Gripp onto it. Yeah, it’s crazy. and I think that like it maybe was the first time being put in a, like to be held back from something or maybe to be really put into that box.

But at the same time, like it’s funny because you guys noted like, where’s your fiance and this whole thing, he is outside having a drink, has no idea. We’re, you know, in the kitchen kind of thing together. And I think in the most of the story, like he and I and, the sentiment really is he was just as stunned as I was through the whole thing and.

I think his reaction in the fight or flight minus fight his is kind of take a step back and process. And so whereas I maybe was more communicative with my feelings and clear up front later in the story, he was much more like nervous and surprised and then had to find a way to then speak and speak up about it, which is after the situation when we were in the kitchen when he ended up calling her, but.

I mean, we were by ourselves in the kitchen. And then as I said, this is my boundary. She, I don’t really remember her exact kind of feelings about it, but we ended up, walking away and having the rest of the day kinda be fine. And we thought the day went kind of weird after that and we were just like, man, that was like such odd energy in front of everyone, not just at least the three of us.

And. That’s when he ended up calling her, which came after that.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Okay. So we have an issue with the word boundaries. I’m glad you said the thing about like you and your fiance. ’cause I think a lot of times, like stories like this are written by the brides and they experience it firsthand because of that kind of like, turmoil, I dunno if that’s even the right word, but it’s like.

The fiance we to remember too, is in a difficult position, right? It’s like, obviously they’re choosing you, but at the same time it’s like, I’ve never seen this side of my mom before. I’m really sorry. But also what’s happening, but also I love you, I promise. they’re like dealing with all these like different so of like emotions and things they’re going through.

so that’s important to say as well. okay, so these red flags are showing, you’re like, okay, we’re gonna move on from this like boundary day. Yeah. then your fiance calls her. Mm-hmm.

Anonymous Guest: yeah. so we decompressed, we talked about the day.

We were like, wow, that was really weird. Never had an interaction like that. just seemed as though like she was really pressing and feeling anxious or worked up about the details. And so we called her and was just like, Hey, like. I kind of told him, I said like, if you feel this way, say it on behalf of you.

Like, I don’t want you to speak on behalf of me. in any way, giving anybody ammunition as to saying, well, she feels this way, she feels that way. I said, just speak on behalf of you and leave it at that. So he said, you know, like, I feel like the other day was weird and the energy was weird, and it essentially like maybe being more.

Clear with how he was feeling. I think it really upset her and she ended up getting so upset with his confrontation of the behavior and just saying like, and I forget along the lines of what he said, but he was just like, talking about this and talking about that. She goes, well, that was a joke.

And like, I can’t, I was just teasing. And he was just like, yeah, it really wasn’t, a joke or whatever. You know, he kind of addressed like things. Clearly and she just had different perception of it. and then I think that being as though he was so clear with her and like how he felt, she felt very attacked by that and very like hurt by that.

And the only way I think that she knew how to process that was to literal hang up on him and not talk to him for three weeks. Yeah. Which was crazy. Do the silent

Christa Innis: treatment. Yeah. I find that so interesting because it’s like, okay, respect your elders, communicate and he did just that. Yeah. He literally called her in an appropriate way, did not out her in front of a bunch of people saying, Hey, you’re being rude.

You know, like literally the most respectful thing. But there’s a certain, I feel like certain people cannot handle being told they did something wrong, or, someone was hurt by the way they acted.

Birthday Silence Treatment

Anonymous Guest: No, that’s exactly, right. and I think again, their relationship was so fine, but why did this instance of confronting behavior, and maybe he never did, and what I’ve come to realize in the last year about him and his relationship growing up and stuff like that, like he is so unbothered by everything.

Like the man could not be bothered by a single thing. And it is what a peaceful life my fiance lives because he just does not get worked up about anything and. It takes so much for him to even feel worked up. And so when coming at situations like this, he can so easily take it in and brush it out and it’s like.

Most people cannot do that or you internalize a little bit. And so I think that in interactions with her previously or growing up, like he certainly has never felt the need to address anything head on and or felt heard enough. But I think when it came down to us discussing how we felt and how I expressed to him how that made me feel, he then felt ownership and saying like, okay, well this is something that obviously we need to talk about and I need to address, but maybe she had never.

Had that be addressed before or been told to your point Like, this was wrong or your behavior upset me in any way. So it definitely stunned her. And you said she hung off the phone and didn’t talk to him for three weeks. didn’t talk to either one of us for three weeks, which was a notable three weeks because his birthday fell during that time.

And, there wasn’t like a. Come back together kind of moment. And it was a little hard. I mean, she expressed after that in the story that that was hard for her. And it’s hard for us, like, to have such a normal, good relationship with somebody and then to know there is tension and to know what is present for that whole time, like.

It was definitely difficult for us too. Mm-hmm. Because like we’re just trying to process how we feel about the situation in general and celebrate our engagement. And then also there’s this like massive tension that’s like building and then kind of being expanded in the family as like more people were obviously present and then seeing what’s happening and hearing what’s happening and it’s kind of expanding it felt like.

So that was, it was hard. Yeah. And then of course it’s birthday, so it felt, it just felt terrible. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. I find it all so interesting because it’s like she can. Beret is probably a heavy word, but she can like, call you out in front of everybody, make you feel a certain way, even though you were like constantly putting your boundary down, saying, no, no, no.

She gets contacted in private by herself. Mm-hmm. And that’s disrespectful. It’s not okay. And she goes into silent treatment mode. She goes into like victim mode of like, oh my gosh, you guys are attacking me. And it’s just kind of funny to see like the opposites and from different point of views like, how she can’t even see like past her own like lens.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah. And that’s like a lot of the work that I’ve done in therapy and personal therapy like is just understanding. Yeah, of course. Like you have two sides to every story, but like. The information that we had to your point, was in private, in a calm way and trying to be clear and communicative and it wasn’t receptive.

 she wasn’t receptive at all of it. So I think that’s a piece of, I. Getting feedback and then being able to process at the time, at least in the situation, she just did not handle like super well and then ended up, my fiance and then extended party, like ended up suffering in those, three-ish weeks to that before the next, major incident.

So it was crazy. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah. So let’s get into a Father’s Day weekend. This was the part that 4th of July. This is

Anonymous Guest: 4th of

Christa Innis: July weekend. weeks. Year. Oh, fourth. Oh yeah. Father’s Day weekend was the first dinner. So we’re talking Yeah. 4th of July weekend. This was still over the, not talking to you stage.

Mm-hmm. Completely like blocking you guys out. Yeah. Yeah. So at that point, okay, let’s talk about 4th of July then. So you guys don’t hear from her. You guys have a 4th of July party at this house with a really big pantry. Yes. Yes. This is the part that Suzanne and I were just like, wait, what is happening here?

She’s in the pantry now. This doesn’t make any sense. Yeah. I’m like visualizing this like beautiful, like huge pantry.

Anonymous Guest: It is. Yeah. Um,

Christa Innis: so you guys had like a rented house?

Anonymous Guest: Well, yeah. So without giving too many details my fiance’s family has like a larger, lodge of sorts, very much like the Hallmark esque make big lodges that they spend their Christmases in kind of thing.

They have one in their family. it’s also like a hunting lodge kind of thing. Okay. So just very large. and the kitchen is like an industrial kitchen, so you imagine like the big industrial stoves and stuff like that. And so there’s just this larger like wraparound kind of pantry type of situation that’s adjacent to off of it, but yes.

Where at their family’s house. lodge for, better words, but yeah.

Christa Innis: So it’s his family’s house. Everyone’s there, but his mom just hasn’t shown up yet. She shows up late, right?

The Lodge and the Cold Shoulder

Anonymous Guest: Yeah. So she doesn’t live too far from there. and so my fiance has like, family ownership of the lodge.

So we go up, we bring my family, my parents are there, that we all join the lodge for the weekend. So we’re there for like the long weekend and it’s her family’s place. and his grandpa. Owns it and he’s there and then the aunt is there. So everyone that was at the original incident is also now, coincidentally at 4th of July weekend.

 so she had every right to be there and all the plans to be there. But it sounds as though like, obviously we were struggling with communication. We were obviously not talking and then, so it didn’t seem as though she was very excited about the idea of joining us as soon as possible. So we were there for a couple days before she ended up joining.

Yeah.

Christa Innis: Oh, and do you think that was her plan all along? Or do you think she was randomly was like, I’m gonna go and make my entrance, my grand entrance?

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, it’s, well, so there was up being a couple things that happened. So there was like this other party that we were going to within for the July weekend that was at a house very close, and we ended up seeing her there for the first time.

So she was also at this adjacent family party inside of 4th of July weekend. Oh my gosh. To give you the vibe, and that is where we first. saw her face to face since he had not speak to her, like been on the phone and she was very cold. Like, very much did not want anything to do with us. And at the time.

I was, I kind of saw her in the corner and I could see that she was talking to somebody. and I could see she was very heated about what she was talking about, and I could only imagine that, she was kind of recounting what has been going on in her life. and she said a couple things kind of verbatim that she repeated back to me in the pantry.

So I knew that’s ultimately what she was talking about and mm-hmm. So I could tell that, yeah, the vibes were a little intense and so he kind of went up to her and tried to embrace her in some way and she was very much not into it. I tried to do the same thing. She basically didn’t hug me probably the first time ever.

and so it was like a really cold interaction. and then my parents were at the house, you know, down the road kind of thing, and. Her whole point was to come there and to spend time with all of us. And she ended up leaving that house and never visited them. Never even stopped, like just kept going. So the plan was to be there kind of the whole weekend, and she kind of came in, did her thing, and left.

Left for a couple days, and then came back what would be ultimately like a couple days later. So,

Christa Innis: oh my gosh, very much.

Anonymous Guest: Not the plan. Not the plan

Christa Innis: at all. Yeah. Yeah. It’s so crazy. Like looking back, of course, like. I’m just like, she could have avoided all of this by just like responding to her fiance being like, I’m sorry I made her feel that way.

I would love to like, get lunch next week and just like, hear about your wedding plans or, just like, kind of just completely turn it over instead. have like a toddler blocking this out. We’ll have

Anonymous Guest: to, yeah. Yeah. I’ll have to cut this out, but she needs some serious therapy, so I’ll find something else to say.

But I mean, yeah, it definitely like. You could tell she was so upset and she just didn’t know how to process her feelings and or how to navigate the situation in general. And like, I get that. I totally get that. We were all in uncharted territory, so it’s like. We were all processing things and being in this interaction for the very first time.

And so I think it’s important that, we handled it how we felt we could defend and talk about and, be proud of. And, I don’t know if she felt the same way, but it seems as though like she was kind of. Operating on out of fear and like confusion and, we were really trying to make sure that we were clear and concise and kind, you know?

Mm-hmm. Like we didn’t want to create any animosity, but, a lot of it definitely could have been avoided. And especially this whole like buildup to not talking and to not, leaving and not coming and not embracing all this kinda stuff is like, well that’s just hard, you Like none of us really wanted to.

Start back up again after so many weeks kind of thing. But it’s like someone has to do it. That’s why the pantry situation happened was because I was like, we must like do this now. You know? Like it

Christa Innis: get rid of the tension.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah. We have to try. So try.

Christa Innis: Alright, so let’s, let’s talk the pantry moment. So the pantry moment,

Anonymous Guest: this large pantry.

Christa Innis: So. how did that all come about? So eventually she shows up at the house. On a day, like she kind of showed up later to everyone. Like you said, it was kind of weird. She kind of came in and out. Sorry, I’m kind of like looking back at the story. No, ahead. Tell how, tell me how that kind of like all started.

Because I think it started with your, fiance and her talking, right? And then you were kinda like listening in.

 The Pantry Confrontation

Anonymous Guest: I was like, we have to address this. And they had finally just exchanged his birthday gifts It was kind of okay, but we had no, that was in front of everybody and so we had had no, like, one-on-one time with her.

 and so she kind of went in inside and everybody again was sitting outside. And so I was like, well, we should go, we should gotta, we gotta do it. So I was like, go, I’ll be behind you. and. So again, the beginning of the conversation, she kind of thought she was having it with just him. And that’s why the detail about me coming into the pantry was kind of a note because she didn’t realize I was there because like he’s standing in the doorway, she’s inside the pantry and I’m on the outside behind him.

It’s tall, man. So it’s like, she didn’t know I was there. So he kind of says like, we gotta stop this. Like you gotta stop. And so then she starts explaining like how up upset she is and how this has been so upsetting for her she kind of starts venting a lot of her feelings.

And then the first thing that she kind of said that like threw me was she was like, and she said she would send me the address and like, she didn’t send me shit. And so then I was like, well, it’s my time to enter now. And so I hear my name, I’m being summed. Literally. I was like, well, you brought me into it.

Darn it. I’ll join now. So I kind of came around the corner and I was like, well, and I kind of said exactly that, like. Well, it’s not time to enter out. So, like I come in and I was just like,I didn’t even give any words out really before, she kind of came in and she got very close to me and got very aggressive as far as saying like, how dare you speak to me that way.

You know, how dare you talk about a boundary like that kind of referencing our, father’s Day weekend conversation and just essentially saying that like. She couldn’t imagine, speaking, having somebody speak to her that way. And, what the hell is a boundary kind of thing.

And it, what the hell

Christa Innis: is

Anonymous Guest: a

Christa Innis: boundary?

Anonymous Guest: Oh no. like she knows, but she lists like, what the hell, that has nothing to do with this kind of thing. Like, just not understanding the impact of really what I was saying. And she’s like in, you know, very close to my face and I was just like, are you really, like, is this really what you’re gonna do right now?

And my fiance. The man was stunned. The man’s mouth was probably a gate on the ground like, and he is again, he is definitely not a fighter and he’s not like a flight, but he’s definitely someone who just maybe a little bit freezes, especially in this moment. He’s a very like. Confident person. Like he knows how to handle stress really well.

But I think when it comes down to someone that you really didn’t expect it to be from, he just froze in that moment and he said nothing. and so it was just me, you know, me, Duke’s up, got my hands up, I’m so mentally prepared to handle this conversation. I’ve had so much therapy that I was like, I can do this.

and so I was just like. Are you really gonna, approach a conversation like that right now? Like, I am not being aggressive and I don’t have that tone. Like, I just don’t think that’s productive. And, her responses were very aggressive and trying to get her feelings across in a very, like, loud, big way.

 and then I. Lost every, all of my therapy in me and I started rising as well. Hard get to, to a point where you’re just like, whatever. My ears are bright red. I am just like my heart is beating outta my chest because I’m just, I’m trying so hard to contain my thoughts and be clear, but then I’m also being attacked when I’m trying to process that.

my fiance is obviously standing there. I know this is hurting him in some capacity, so it’s like a, culmination of quite a few things that I felt like were like, leaning on my shoulders and I just started apologizing and and I truly felt apologetic like I did, that my intentions maybe were not the result of like what I said or how she felt, and.

 those were just not received well at all either. So all I can do is apologize. All I can do is take ownership of what may have been unintended consequences and like it wasn’t being accepted. So at that point, like, what are we to do? we are not getting anywhere. and we went but I can go in circles for a while and we did.

So we went in circles for a while and then mm-hmm. Ultimately, it ended up kind of coming to a close in that moment, but, not without going on for quite a while before that point, and mind you we’re in a pantry that is extension of a kitchen, extension of a dining room that has got windows that are open to the outside.

So many people, I think, no real confirmation, this pantry has windows. So the pantry door was open. We were standing in the, literally, oh, we were standing in the door and then the kitchen’s open, and then there’s a doorway, and then the doorway goes straight outside. Stop. So did you see

Christa Innis: people walking by and like no one

Anonymous Guest: was in the house.

They knew what was going on, so they were like avoiding it, you know? Yeah, they, did your parents

Christa Innis: know what was going on? Like were they

Anonymous Guest: like everyone did? Yeah. It was sad. My mom actually ended up getting. Really drunk. She’s like so worked up. She was just drinking so much wine. She goes, I got so drunk. And I was just like, you’re crazy.

Like, because she was so worked up because she knows like, I certainly don’t need anybody to step in on my behalf. So she was like not worried about having to do that or. Isn’t really that personality type anyway. But she was just so stressed out by the confrontation and the attention that she like got accidentally drunk.

But I think that they could hear, so, what I know to be true is they could hear parts of it. So I think at that point, we ended up coming to kind of a, close and it didn’t really feel resolved though, at all. and it was just difficult to be like, well, this didn’t really do what we wanted, kind of thing.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Okay, so then the next morning she comes back to the cabin and that’s when you guys talked to her and everything like Yeah. Said that she felt disrespected. mm-hmm. And basically she just kinda leaves saying, I’m happy we talked.

Anonymous Guest: it was hard because. We’d gone kinda the whole day spending the day on the water and before this conversation even happened, and I felt so unresolved.

 It seems as though she kind of came into the day with a cleanish slate and was really trying to put everything behind, but not really, addressing it necessarily enough to put it behind. Mm-hmm. She kind of just said, well, that happened and now it’s over. and so as the day went on, I just kept.

Feeling so much more tension building up, because I was like, how are you going on? As if like, this did not happen yesterday and we had, this is not really resolved. and so I was like, I’m gonna say something. And I was like, I wanna say something. And I was like, I need to right here.

So we kind of, you know, approached it and I just said like, I felt very disrespected by the comments that were made and the way that you spoke to me and the tone that you spoke to me. And I said, essentially I felt like she was. Damaging the relationship that we did have and like to me as a person, like I felt like a wounded bird and somebody’s just like punching it, I just felt as though like I was already down and it just felt like I was getting punched. And so I tried to communicate that I didn’t really feel a lot of, again, apologetic energy from her. it was more so just like trying to find a means to an end or trying to get to the end. Mm-hmm.

Resolution—or Something Like It

And, it was hard. And then as I’m saying things, I’m more verbal processor, but as I’m saying things, I’m trying so hard to get off my chest to say it and to, feel it and to communicate it. And I just kept feeling like my blood pressure rising, like everything was just getting more. And she goes in for a hug and she’s like, I’m so happy.

We talked and I was just like. shaking. Mm-hmm. And like, I was just like, oh my God, I’m gonna die. So it was really hard because I felt like I was trying so hard to do everything the right way. And then finally I get it all out and I feel, no bit better. Like not even a single percent better.

 but we were having tension in the conversation. And then my fiance kind of stepped in and. be more clear and communicate from his perspective. Maybe someone she was more open to listening to. and, you know, he was just kind of shutting down some of the other things that she was saying.

And she, again, more, a little bit more receptive maybe to him. But, the problem definitely was coming from me and maybe my more outspokenness. in general about the situation. So it was, really hard and I was like, well, we, I wasn’t really happy. We talked, I’m happy I said what I said.

But yeah. You know, I don’t feel like immensely better because of it at all. Yeah. So,

Christa Innis: that’s how I, kind of understood it while I was reading it. Yeah, because it seemed very, like you were very open with her, you were very forward with how you felt, and then she was kind of just like.

Okay, happy we talked. Bye now. And I just picture that being like, oh, she’s trying to just brush it, put it under the rug, which I get to a certain extent. Yeah. Like let’s move on. But also like you did a lot, of hurt. You caused a lot of issues. Yeah. The way you acted is gonna create this little barrier now between.

Your son and his future wife. okay, so now let’s get to the new stuff for two part two. Yeah. Yeah. It’s been almost two months. You said since the incident, and you made an appointment to address shopping with your mom, your fiance’s aunt and his mom. When I read that, I was like, whoa. Okay. So she’s still invited, she’s still coming along.

Yeah. How did that go? what’s been going on since?

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, so. I felt as though it was still my responsibility to extend an olive branch or regardless of kind of where our relationship was, that that was something that I had to do, and ultimately it would’ve certainly caused more damage if I didn’t invite her, if she wasn’t a part of it.

and then giving her the opportunity to maybe make some adjustments as to how we’re handling, like wedding stuff. Like if she felt as though something really was wrong in the way she handled, like the venue conversation, stuff like that. Here’s your opportunity to handle it differently. so we did go dress shopping.

 the aunt, the mom, my friend, you guys obviously mentioned the first part like bringing, like a mean friend. I did have a friend there that was like. Prepared to potentially like, fend off any comments or any mm-hmm. attitude from really anybody, ultimately wasn’t needed.

The dress shopping actually went really, really well. She right, I think she just had, had a lot of, big feelings at the time and they’d kind of settled at that point up until then. and that was, you know, like in September. So that was like quite a few months ago now. But, we checked that box, like we did that, and then I continued to dress shop with who I, not who I wanted necessarily, but just like who other groups of people I wanted to go with.

So she kind of went the first time and then proceeded to them, check in and understand like how the process was going for me. ’cause I didn’t buy anything that day as I continued to shop. and that kind of went from there. since then I would say it’s been better. It’s definitely been hard because

it’s not the same as it was. And there’s pieces of me that just feels sad about that and like wondering, like, is it gonna be like this forever or is other situations gonna bring up more explosive feelings? Like, could this happen again essentially? Mm-hmm. and so.

My fiance and I started premarital counseling last end of last year, kind of as this was settling down much after the dress shopping. And we have learned a lot in there together about like this relationship, with us of course, but then with her and our families together and stuff. And so that’s provided us with a lot of like learnings.

And something I’d recommend to literally everyone, doing premarital counseling and then. Talking about like common issues that you guys face together, which this was one that we were facing kind of together. Mm-hmm. And it gave us a lot of clarity. It gave me a lot of clarity as to how like, you know, she was feeling and she was kinda operating out of a state of fear and maybe feeling as so like her son’s finally getting married, kind of feeling.

And so I was like, better. Understood. I think her perspective, and we never really had like a long conversation about like, let’s look back on this kind of thing and I don’t think we ever will. but I’m trying to, understand like what I learned from the situation and how I could take it forward into the future.

And I. If something else happens again with her or any one of our family members, like how, essentially I have the tools and that we have the tools to like get through something like that based on what we’ve learned. So we’re on improving that relationship, with her and, we have, gone up to their house and stayed with them and, spent time with them outside of that.

And it’s, Definitely like more positive than it was. I wouldn’t say it’s just the same as it was before, so. Mm-hmm. But at the same time, like maybe it’s a lesson learned that the, distance and like the separation of. Maybe we don’t need to talk every day, or maybe we don’t need to be involved in every decision was like a huge lesson learned for maybe her or on both sides of just like what this dynamic is now that, he does have a fiance and someone that he’s building a life with and to talk to every day.

And so maybe if you guys aren’t talking as much, it’s because we’re talking a little bit or whatever that looks like. it’s a lot of change, so I totally understand that. But. It’s definitely been more positive than it was then. Like we’re on a small, incline, kind of, like getting

Christa Innis: better, getting back to like how things were.

No, that’s good. And I think that will give a lot of people hope too through like communication and you make a good point too, about. It might never be back to how it was because sometimes when you see a certain side of people or you see how they treat you in a certain way, you’re like, okay, I have to tread these waters lightly because you’re afraid of like, okay, am I going to say the wrong thing or is my boundary going to offend them again?

And so I think it’s smart to like in those moments be like, okay, I am gonna like. Just tread lightly. Keep my distance a little bit. we’re gonna be respectful of each other. so I think your story can help people see that like communication can go far and you can only do so much. Like when someone’s being like, difficult like that.

And just like giving the silent treatment, that was probably her. Working through everything, like what’s happening here. I’ve never been told no like that before or I’ve never had a boundary set against me. Or they think like, oh, a boundary means I’m a terrible person. I’m not a terrible person. Yeah. And so they immediately get like defensive.

So I feel like you are so like gracious with her, like giving them like time and like space to like, I mean, not necessarily like you asked for time and space, but she just No.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah.

Christa Innis: But yeah, I think sharing these stories are good. Like we were kind of talking about before recording, it’s like sharing these stories are good because.

Anonymous Guest: People that are going through something similar can be like, oh, okay, I’m not crazy. I went through something like this. Or I am a mom and I was crossing the boundary for my son-in-law, or my daughter-in-law. yeah, I feel we learned a lot on how to tackle maybe quote unquote problems as a couple.

’cause I feel like most often people either. seek help in the relationship. ’cause they’re obviously fighting with each other. but this was kind of a common thing that we were going through together. And so it was something that was very difficult in terms of balancing, well, this is his mom and his relationship.

So a lot of what we’ve learned, I think, kind of moving forward is that like we each deal with our own families. and mine’s not, absolved to the drama. Like there’s stuff there too. And, I think that. I deal with that and he deals with his, and it’s not so much that we are individuals dealing with our, it’s just because what we’ve found or what I found is that like families can probably be more receptive coming from their own family members.

So, kind of crossing that communication, like me talking directly to her is not a problem, but could probably be, be better received. Potentially became from him. Mm-hmm. So we started kind of saying, well if as long as you feel the same way, if we feel the same way, and this is a situation that happened with both of us, like you can handle it.

or you can address it or what that looks like. it changes every situation. But that was a big lesson learned. And then. I’ve done a lot of like work and under justand understanding relationships, and there’s just like a path to expressing yourself and then letting it go that you kind of have to follow when you cannot change what people think.

You cannot change how people react. And so the best thing you can do is, be clear and say how you feel, focus on the outcome that you want to get out of it, but. If you want to change people’s emotions in a situation, like you have to stop That’s not something that you can change.

you can only focus on, if you want an apology or do you want to be listened to, but like, you cannot change, you cannot ask for empathy. You cannot ask for understanding. Like those things are not something that you can ask for. Mm-hmm. And then if, like those things are happening and the situation becomes reactive, you kind of have to walk away.

So again, learned a lot from the situation that in general I think it’s just good life advice and relationship advice. But I think there is hope, for other people dealing with this situation and or even dealing with conflict like this in general, it. I think it’s just all about like using those emotional intelligence tools in order to have, productive conversations on difficult topics and

Christa Innis: mm-hmm.

Strengthen

Anonymous Guest: your relationship from within. So when you deal with stuff like this, it’s not me versus you, or it’s not us versus anybody, it’s just, Kind of just more communication than this tension and this big, outburst or this big long situation.

Christa Innis: So, yeah. Yeah. No, I feel like those were such great like parting words that people can hold onto that advice.

’cause like we all could use a little therapy and I feel like that was like very helpful, like to just take to our own relationships. ’cause especially a lot of people that listen. Have either dealt with this kind of situation or similar situations, or they might in the future. so I think it’s helpful to know, you know, we can’t control other people’s emotions.

All we can do is control ourselves and how we can communicate essentially. So,

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, there’s hope. There’s hope. I mean, it’s gotten better and I assume it’s going to continue getting better. but I think at the end of the day, like this situation happens because somebody cares. So deeply and in some capacity it comes from a very good place.

So it’s difficult as it presents itself, either out of fear or anxiety or sadness, but ultimately like the core emotion is different, or just there’s a lot of change going on, stuff like that. So I feel as though like the intention is always. Mostly always good. and you kind of have to sink back into that and say, well, what can I do to best understand this person?

Knowing that they’re coming from a good place? And if you know they’re not coming from a good place, just don’t interact. Mm-hmm. Just take a step back, stay as far away as possible and until you feel as though that’s the situation, because it’s just probably won’t go anywhere. But yeah. 

Christa Innis: Don’t waste your energy on people like that, that are just trying to make you feel bad.

Yeah, exactly. Awesome. Well thank you so much for coming on and being vulnerable and sharing. I really appreciate it and you speak so well and I feel like, we talked about, like there’s so much to learn from this situation, but I feel like you came out of it like stronger, you learned a lot and I feel like it’s great just seeing that you’re applying it now to like future things.

 so I really appreciate you coming on and sharing.

Anonymous Guest: No, thank you. Thank you so much for having me. And honestly, like I just hope. This helps anyone, so just happy to be here.

Christa Innis: Yeah.


Bridesmaid Demotions, SIL Drama & Tough Boundaries with my MOH!

What happens when your vision for the perfect wedding collides with reality?

In this episode, I sit down with my best friend and matron of honor, Ivette, for a candid and hilarious conversation about the highs and lows of wedding planning.

From juggling family expectations to incorporating meaningful cultural traditions, Ivette shares how she navigated the chaos of planning her wedding while staying true to her values. We also dive into some of the wildest wedding hot takes submitted by listeners—prepare for strong opinions and unfiltered reactions!

Whether you’re a bride-to-be, a bridesmaid, or just love a good wedding story, this episode is packed with relatable moments, laughs, and real talk about what truly matters on the big day.

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Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

02:40 Wedding Memories and Friendship

06:55 Wedding Planning Stress and Traditions

11:21 Hot Takes and Wedding Drama

28:37 Wedding Planning Chaos Begins

29:13 Bridesmaid Drama Unfolds

31:44 Family Tensions and Wedding Demands

43:58 The Wedding and Aftermath

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • The Reality of Wedding Planning – Ivette opens up about the stress of balancing her dream wedding with family pressures.
  • Bringing Culture Into the Celebration – How Ivette honored her heritage through unique wedding traditions.
  • Hosting a Full House – The chaos (and comedy) of accommodating 11 guests in a tiny apartment.
  • Wedding Hot Takes – Christa and Ivette react to bold listener opinions on cash bars, unplugged ceremonies, and more.
  • The Bridesmaid Selection Dilemma – Do brides really choose bridesmaids based on skills and aesthetics?
  • Setting Boundaries in Wedding Planning – Ivette’s take on standing firm against outside expectations.
  • What Really Matters on the Big Day – The moments that made Ivette’s wedding truly unforgettable.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “Weddings are supposed to be about love, but somehow, they always bring out the drama.” – Christa Innis
  • “Your wedding is YOURS—no one else’s opinion should dictate your day.” – Christa Innis
  • “Bridesmaids should be chosen based on friendship, not just talent or aesthetics.” – Christa Innis
  • “A wedding guest list is not a free-for-all. Boundaries exist for a reason!” – Christa Innis
  • “At the end of the day, no one remembers the little details—only how they felt celebrating with you.” – Christa Innis
  • “I wanted my wedding to reflect who I was, not just what looked good on Instagram.” – Ivette
  • “Family is important, but you can’t let their expectations take over your wedding.” – Ivette
  • “The stress of planning is real, but the love and support of your people make it worth it.” – Ivette
  • “Bridesmaids should stand beside you in life, not just in photos.” – Ivette

About Ivette

Ivette is a mommy, a wife, and a psychotherapist in training. She loves girl talk and giving unsolicited advice. She’s all about conversations that matter because she believes people matter. She was also Christa’s Maid of Honor in her wedding.

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Blog Transcript:

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Christa Innis: All right. I’m so excited for the episode today. And I wanted things to be a little less formal because I have one of my very best friends, Ivette here, who just so happened to also be the matron of honor in my wedding. And so I thought it would be more of just like it. A fun hangout session because we’re busy moms and this is how we hang out these days on zoom call.

Ivette: and I knew that we were going to do this and I was like, we need to have a drink because we just need to relax, enjoy ourselves and have fun.

Christa Innis: Seriously, I know. I feel like we actually need to just start scheduling these because it’s just so hard to get together with everyone’s schedules and the kids.

It’s just like, right now, both our kids or all our kids, I should say are in bed because that’s just like perfect time to just. Exactly.

Ivette: Yes.

Christa Innis: What are you drinking today, Ivette? Margarita.

Ivette: It’s my go to. You can never go wrong with tequila. You make a

Christa Innis: good margarita. I know and I’m like, that sounds so good.

I’m drinking some wine. this is not sponsored but a brand sent me this. It’s called Grazi wines, right? And it’s really delicious. It’s a rose. It’s a rose. Yeah. It’s like no sugar added, but it’s a boxed wine. I don’t know. That really sounds like it’s sponsored. I swear to God it’s not sponsored. but anyways, cheers.

Cheers to hanging out. All 

Ivette: right, let’s get into it. Virtual hangout reminds me of our COVID hangouts.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. It’s so funny you said that because I was just looking at pictures because I was like, Oh, I want to do a little post that I’m going to have you on the podcast. And I was like, Oh my gosh, 2020 we had like weekly virtual, like game nights.

Yeah. It, like, changed everything.

Ivette: I know. Thank God that you, like, would set that up with not just us, but other people, because I was just going stir crazy.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Same. was mostly Zach. Like, he’d be like, we need to, like, call people. And then once that started, we’d be like, yeah, let’s, like, get this going.

So I feel like we would call you guys. We’d call, like, my cousin in Texas. Like, we had, like, a little group going, and it was so great to connect with people because it was like, you couldn’t go anywhere.

Ivette: I’m like Zach’s sister was on too and like we were all just hanging out. Yeah. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Ivette: Good times.

Christa Innis: Yeah, we needed that. Oh my gosh, I’m so glad you said that. Like, bring me back. Someone posted something about 2020 Today and they’re like, isn’t that crazy to think that was half a decade ago? And I was like, no.

Ivette: That’s wild.

Christa Innis: I feel like so much has happened since then, but the same time that feels like yesterday.

Ivette: Yeah, same, but also so many lifetimes ago, you’re right.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I feel like that’s just how life goes now. Alright, before we get too far into it, can you just tell everyone a little bit about you and like, what you do? You’re like, oh my gosh, pressure. yeah. I mean, I feel like there’s like, there’s so much to know, and, but just Okay, so I thought about this,

Ivette: and Okay, I’m going to start it like this.

So for those of you that don’t know me, no, I, I’m joking. for Christa’s wedding, I was like, that was how I started my speech. I said, you know, I asked my husband for all this advice on how to start my speech. And he’s like, whatever you do, don’t start it with for those of you that don’t know me.

And so I did that. but yeah, I mean, I met Christa through my husband, who’s actually her husband’s friend. And he was the Best man in their wedding. And then Zach was the best man in our wedding. but yeah, I’m currently a mom of two. I’m a grad student about to graduate in eight weeks. and yeah, I think I’m a really authentic, real person.

. I like to be vulnerable and get to know people and so I’m not really good with surface level conversations. I like to get deep and get to know people. So

Christa Innis: yeah are that person that like we I feel like that’s when we like started connecting is when we’re like Oh, we love these one on one conversations Like we would just get lost in conversations like it didn’t matter what was going on around us

Ivette: Yeah,

Christa Innis: and we would like it literally went from like us Knowing each other to very like very service level, knowing each other to like in distance.

Like we’d be like, oh, okay. Hi Eva. Hi Christa. And then all of sudden we’re like, bam. Like we’d be texting all the time when we see each other. We’d be like these deep conversations. And then it was just, the rest

Ivette: is, like, I felt like you were my partner in crime for like a good amount of time before the babies came.

Like for sure.

Christa Innis: Yes.

Ivette: And like, yeah.

Christa Innis: I feel like those last few years before. Like COVID, and then like, obviously doing our virtual calls a lot during 2020. Those years, like, really, like, brought us together, I feel like, and now, like, we were just saying, now it’s been, like, years. I mean, because I, probably first met you when Zach and I first got together, which was 11 years ago now, which is crazy.

Or almost, going on

Ivette: 11, going on 12, I don’t know. Yes. I will, I still remember the day that I met you. Like, I will always remember the day that I met you. Which is so weird, because I tell people that. I’m like, isn’t it so crazy? I think I’ve told you this before. Like, it’s crazy to think that you always meet, like, you always remember, like, the important people in your life.

Like, I remember meeting you. I remember meeting Matt. I remember meeting, like, some of my other best friends. And, like, anyone else, it’s like, I don’t really remember. But I, like, Remember like what people are wearing and so yeah,

Christa Innis: yeah, like those vivid moments that stick in your mind Yeah, no, that’s funny.

LikeI don’t know. feel like the same way I was just looking back at like Wedding photos too when I was like picking out stuff and I was like, oh my gosh like even that like for my wedding I feel so long ago And yeah, just all the craziness since then okay, before I get too, like, blabby because Y makes me chat a lot, so I’m gonna slurp.

Ivette: Not going to lie. I may have had like a tiny little shot to keep up.

Christa Innis: Hey girl, this is moms after dark. I mean, I know when this episode comes out, I’ll come out in the morning. But if you guys, if you’re listening and you don’t listen to it till later have a glass of wine with us, have a margarita with us, drink a choice of coffee, you know, what have you just run like let loose and hang out a little bit.

so Let’s get into crazy stories and some wedding hot takes, but I kind of want to switch it up a little bit, like Talking about your own wedding. I know I don’t like saying Oh throw people under the bus. No, I’m not saying that I’m talking about your own wedding. Like what was like the planning experience for you?

like I know you were really stressed during your wedding planning and that was like A lot. You kind of, you talked about having a lot on your plate at that time. So like, what’s something like unforgettable about your own wedding experience that you kind of just like held on to? like good, you were saying?

I brought up the stress, but like, yeah, like what kind of like was your planning like? And then like looking back, you’re like memories that you held onto about it.

Building a Wedding with Purpose

Ivette: So, yeah, I think planning was really stressful because I really wanted to, like, stick to my values and be like, okay, this is what I want, this is what I like, but also, like, more importantly, I wanted to build a foundation for my marriage, and I wanted the people that I feel like helped Change my life for the better or we’re like really important into like my pivotal story of like this is who we’ve at Was this is who I am now I am like proud to be this person this woman entering into marriage And I want those people to like stand beside me not just to come to my wedding but to be like listen I support you through any season in your marriage, right?

That’s super important to me And so I think I was stressed out because so many of those people Don’t live in our state. They live in other countries. They live in the U. S. But maybe they live on the West Coast, right? or even the East Coast. So for me, it was really stressful to get everyone together at the same time and make sure that they were, like, taken care of.

Like I could take care of them the way that they’ve taken care of me, so I think that’s, that was really, like stressful and then of course, you remember, like, we had our apartment in Chicago and I think there was like 11 people staying at our place, like, we had a one bedroom apartment in Chicago and it was like body after body after body, like just anyone sleep anywhere, you know, like during our wedding season, so that was intense.

Um, like the

Christa Innis: epitome of Ivette, like you, I remember specifically, there was like one moment in all the craziness where it was just you and me like in your apartment and you were like Really worried about like pleasing everyone around you and I was like just take a breather It’s your wedding. You should enjoy and you’re like but Christa There’s people from everywhere and we like to have a moment.

I was just taking it like it’s okay But you’re like you were hosting so many people and I like when you say it that way, too. It’s like people are flying from another country or from another side of the country And so you put a lot of pressure on yourself.

It’s very normal.

Ivette: Yeah and then I think the biggest takeaway is like, I am bilingual. I speak Spanish and English and I wanted every single person at my wedding to feel like they were seen and like. understand like, Oh, this is a part of me. Like, so just being very true and then very true to myself.

And then also like, it’s so sweet when you get to have, like, I’m sure you remember your wedding, like every single person that has ever like, meant anything to you. Like that’s like the sweetest thing in the world. And so I think that’s just like the biggest takeaway. I’m like, can we renew our vows just so that all these, you know, our favorite people are together again.

Cause That’s so special. Yeah,

Christa Innis: one of my favorite things about your wedding as like a guest was all the like Cultural and traditional things you kind of like brought in together and just made it your own Like there are certain things that you guys did that I’d never seen at weddings before which I was like, this is so fun This is so cool.

Like, can you explain some of the things that you guys did at your wedding? Like was like the bridge thing, right?

Ivette: oh, oh, yeah, so there’s just like Mexican traditions that we wanted to incorporate into our wedding, and we just, it’s just been passed down through generations, and I really don’t really, I don’t know what they mean, I was just like, oh, I’ve seen this done time after time, and I don’t know what the meaning is, but it’s important to, like, follow those traditions, and, be true to my roots kind of thing, and so, um,

Christa Innis: Oh, I love that.

That was like one thing I couldn’t stop talking about. I was like, it was so beautiful and unique to like you and your story. And I thought that was just like, it was really cool.

Ivette: Yeah, you’re talking about the, it’s called La Vibra de la Mar, which is like, everyone lines up and hold hands and you like, the groom is, Um, and he’s standing either like on a chair or being held by his groomsman and then the bride’s on the other side and then he’s like holding up her veil and everyone’s like running like through the gas, like holding hands, like really, really fast and then the music speeds up.

You keep running faster and faster and people are tripping or losing their shoes or falling over everywhere. And so, yeah, yeah, it’s a really fun tradition that we do. And there’s a couple of dances that we do as well, like country style dances that we do, line dances.

And so, yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah, that’s

Ivette: awesome.

Christa Innis: I love that. All right, let’s get into some hot takes. So these are opinions, some very strong that people send me on Instagram. We’re just gonna react to them together, and just give me your first reactions. Okay, first one is, all lettings should be unplugged.

Ivette: Oh, okay, this is hard. Okay, I agree. I agree, but being a mom, I’m like, oh, that’s hard. Like, have your phone for, like, emergencies. But I don’t need people, like, taking pictures or recording, because, like, I paid for a photographer and a videographer, and I want you to, like, enjoy the moment. You know, yes.

Christa Innis: yeah, I don’t see unplugged as like, we’re gonna have you turn in your phone and lock it in a box, heard of like very extreme, you know, places doing that. But yeah, like, turn your phone off and make sure like, you know how to turn it on silent. Or like to vibrate because I can’t tell you the number of weddings I’ve been to where there’s signs literally and people announce it and you still see people with their iPad or their phone and I’m like, no, don’t do it.

Ivette: Yeah. That’s so much worse. I do hate that. yeah, I just, be present. I’m all about being present.

Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. And chances are as good as the iPhone photos are, the photographer is still going to be 10 times better. Okay, next one says if you are going to have a cash bar, just don’t even have one.

Ivette: Oh, like the gas bill? No, no, no, no, no. No, like they’re your guests. This is like your event. It’s not like you’re doing like, I don’t know, backyard barbecue. No. Oh, like, I feel like you should, pay for the guests or

Christa Innis: something

Ivette: like

Christa Innis: that. So this person says that if you’re planning on having a cash bar, you might as well just not even have one because I think they’re like agreeing.

You should have a bar like an open bar.

Ivette: Yeah, 100%.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I agree I was just telling a story so sorry to people listening if I just told us on a podcast episode Or if it’s coming out soon, but I was at a wedding once where it was open until like 8 p. m. But they didn’t tell anyone. They switched it.

So I remember Zach and I going up to the bar and he ordered drinks and the lady was like, 10 bucks or 15 bucks. And he’s like, Oh, I thought it was open. And they’re like, Oh, it’s switched to cash at eight. And they didn’t announce it or anything. And yeah. Was I at this wedding with you? Cause I feel like I’ve been to this too.

Like I don’t think so. So when Zach and I first started dating years ago. Oh, okay. Those poor people listening are like, oops. No, they want to be listening.

Ivette: Okay. I feel like I’ve been to a wedding like that too, but I feel like I knew that was going to happen. They’re like, okay, like, open bars, closed.

Now it’s like, you know. Yeah. Poor kind of thing.

Christa Innis: My thing is too, it’s like, There’s different levels for what you can afford, obviously. And so I’ve been to all kinds where there’s like, I’ve never, I don’t think I’ve ever been to a hundred percent cash bar. I think I’ve been to ones that are just wine and beer.

And I think that’s great. if only in your budget, you can fit wine and beer and. Like seltzers or like, some kind of pop drinks or whatever non alcoholic. I think that’s great. I do think there should be some kind of beverage that’s offered. That’s Yeah,

I don’t know what I get and there’s also different levels of how formal someone wants their wedding, I get it sometimes that that’s the vibe But yeah, I’m all for I knew I wanted that was like something in my budget I was like, I want an open bar.

Ivette: Yeah, if you’re like getting married at the Drake In downtown Chicago and you’re like having people pay for their drinks. That’s a problem. But like if you know, you’re more conservative and like, Not as wild with your money, then it makes sense. Like, okay, we’re gonna just have like the basic stuff and that I

Christa Innis: totally agree with but Yeah.

Okay. This last one says some bridesmaids are only chosen for their talents or aesthetic. Is this a saying or drink?

Ivette: Yes. Yeah, I didn’t choose bridesmaids because of this, but I have friends who I feel like may have been chosen for this reason. And it’s like, they have the skills, the equipment, that kind of thing. Mm hmm. Yeah.

Crafty or Convenient? The Truth About Bridesmaid Selection

Christa Innis: I feel like I’d be really careful what I say sometimes.

There have been times I’ve felt in the past where I was chosen because I’m very crafty. I’m a crafty girl. I love my crafts. You give me a project. I will. I won’t. ever do like a C minus job. I will do that A plus job. I will give extra effort. And so there’s been a time or two that I was a bridesmaid that I was like, should I have been a bridesmaid?

I don’t know. And it all was great. It was great. But, I think just sometimes you have to really think about down the line or even at that time, like who you want by your side. Not for what they can offer you, but like your relationship to them. i feel like it’s complicated because everyone looks at it differently.

But I don’t know, it’s, I’ve also heard of people, and this is not anyone I know personally, just through stories that people have sent me, it’s just like, they’ll be asked to be in a wedding, and they’re kind of like, they kind of ask themselves, like, why am I a part of this? Like, you don’t even try to be my friend outside of the wedding planning.

so I’ve seen that happen a lot, where they’re more questioning, like, do you just want someone by your side? Whereas

Ivette: I’ve actually had that happen to me before. Yeah, where, Okay. It was like my partner. It was like clear that they were meant to be in the wedding and this person asked me to be in the wedding and it was like, are you sure?

Like, we were both kind of like, why would she ask? Like, it was just really strange. And, you know, of course I said yes. but yeah, it just didn’t fit well. And then of course our friendship isn’t. Yeah.

Christa Innis: I know that’s interesting how that works with, like, it’s almost like a precursor maybe.

Ivette: It’s like, he has 10 people, I have 8 friends, I need 2 more people.

Christa Innis: I need to add somebody. Yes. Yeah. No, I totally see that. Yeah, that’s interesting how that works when you kind of look back and you’re like, Okay, maybe that’s why. I will say, the majority of the times that I was a bridesmaid, it was like, I kind of had expected it. That being said, like, if you were asked today, or do you feel like, I feel like most of your friends are married or, like, committed, like, do you feel like at this point you would be in any other weddings?

Or if someone were to ask you, do you feel like you’re better at saying no if it wasn’t the right fit?

Ivette: I think, okay, so I have a few friends and family members who are still going to get married and I know for a fact that I would say yes. I would have to find a really good excuse for someone who is like a little bit more than a friend kind of thing because that’s just who I am.

It’s like, I’ve always told people like if you mean something, if we’ve had like a relationship in my life, Life like I will never forget you like I will have your back You can call me like 10 years later if we’ve lost touch, you know that kind of thing So I’m just a sucker that way So I want to say like because I’m a mom and I’m busy now and like work stuff Like I would it would be easier for me to say no at the same time I am a people pleaser a little bit which I’m working on.

Christa Innis: So I had to beg you to say no to me, even like when you were doing stuff for my wedding. I remember you had so much going on, just different things that would come up. And I’d be like, Ivette, it’s okay if you can’t come to the bachelorette party. It’s okay if you can’t do this. Like I was like, you’re like, I’m going to be there.

And I was like. Okay, but like, I know the pressure’s not coming from me. Oh, no. No. But I know, it’s hard, because there are people like that, and you put an expectation on yourself. I’m the exact same way when I’m a part of the wedding. okay. I warned you before we got on, but I have a story for this week, and it’s a little long, so I want to jump right in.

if we haven’t been chatting for like, I don’t even know what time I got on. 20 minutes? I don’t feel free to stop me at any point. This week’s story submission. I only saw the beginning and then we’re just gonna go from there. Okay, it says, phew, this may be petty, but this story needs to be told.

My sister in law, let’s call her Lizzie, was a narcissistic Nightmare of a Bride, and she and my brother don’t speak to my family anymore because of her insane wedding drama. Not exaggerating, they have now not spoken to me in over two years and claim to have cut me out of their lives fully and forever with no explanation.

I’m sure you’ll think I’m the crazy one because of that, but hear me out. Let me first say I will not think you’re the crazy one because I, especially through receiving all these stories. There are three sides to every story, and I’m sure you know this in your line of work, like, you can only, like, hear so much and just absorb, you know, what you’re being told, right?

I mean, I don’t want to read into things, but yeah.

Ivette: I’m also such, like, a devil’s advocate, though, so I’m always like, well, we’ll What about this or what about that? I’m like, you know, yeah, sorry to whoever said this, but yes, I am. I’m here to listen I mean, I

Christa Innis: agree with you though, too. I feel like when I first started sharing stories, people would get like, I shouldn’t say people for the most part, people like the stories, but everyone’s gonna be like, you only talk about mother in laws.

How about you talk about mother of the bride? And I was like, well, yeah, Fun fact mother in law could be of the bride or the groom, but okay, and they were just getting offended and I was like well, I try to say stories about all kinds of people related to the story, but I just, the most, most of the stories I get just happen to be from brides.

so now I try to look at it in a lens of like, okay, what are the other details I’m getting? Because sometimes I read a story, I’m like, oh, that’s not, not the best. Not the best looking, but okay. she says I’m the oldest of three siblings. My sister, Cassie is in the middle. These are all fake names.

my brother, Max is the youngest. My brother, Max, and his now wife, Lizzie started dating in college. They’re young in their mid twenties at this point and started talking about getting married in 2020 and planning their wedding before they got engaged, which I thought was a bit weird, but whatever, no harm, no foul until My sister Cassie fell in love with her now husband, oh, Alex, the same year, 2020.

My sister Cassie and her man Alex are in their mid 30s, so they’re older and ready to start their lives together, buy a house, and start a family. They get engaged in the spring of 2021 and tell our whole family they’re planning to get married in a year, March 2022. Yay! We’re so excited for them. Or so I thought.

The Engagement Jealousy That Started It All

Christa Innis Okay. The next thing I know, I get a call from my younger brother, Max, who is not engaged to Lizzie at this point. They’re still just dating, but he’s upset. He tells me Lizzie has been inconsolable, crying and depressed in bed for three days because my sister got engaged first.

Oh my gosh.

Ivette: Yeah.

This is hard. This is hard. That sucks. Sorry. Like, why would that mean anything to you? Yes. Like this, you should be happy. You should be happy for them. Like, that is a really big red flag if you’re like, Uh, I didn’t get engaged first. Like, what about me? Like, I’ve paid my time. No, like, these people are happy.

They’re older. you don’t know if they want to have kids, right? Like, you don’t know what their plan is. Maybe they’re more financially established. You don’t really know. So I feel like if you’re looking forward to getting married and being a part of someone’s family, you should be happy when they reach their milestones too.

And when, The siblings get engaged. Like, why would you make it about yourself?

Christa Innis: I know. Especially because they’re not even engaged at this point. Like, and even if they were, like, us and we’re engaged at the same time. Like, I don’t get the competitive, like, back and forth. Like, that was a similar story I just shared about a girl, like, demanded to be engaged before her, they were dating brothers.

Demand to be engaged before her. And this was like a true story. Someone sent me and it’s just like, I just don’t get that.

Ivette: my sister in law and her husband now they have been dating forever. You actually went to high school with them. But my husband and I, Matt, we actually got engaged before them and.

She asked me like, is it okay if we get married, whatever date, like, which was before our wedding. And I was like, yeah, of course. Like, I really don’t care. Like, I’m happy for you. Like, what can I do to help you? You know? And it was so fun to be in the process together and be like, Oh, look at your ring, look at my ring.

And. What are you doing with this? And, oh, I might bounce that idea off of you, and, oh, that’s good for you, but I don’t like that style, and it was so fun to be a part of each other’s wedding, so.

Christa Innis: Yeah, that’s what people, I don’t get, because it’s like, then you have a fun, like, unit of, like, your family’s growing, like, now you have a sister, and, like, you know, you have someone you can call up, and, like, it’s the same with, like, When a mother in law gets angry or brother in law, whatever.

It’s like you’re just causing more of a barrier like wouldn’t you want I guess people that think like that don’t think down the line like We’re not gonna get along. I don’t know.

Ivette: Right? Oh, yeah, so I can really play devil’s advocate here

Christa Innis: Yeah, but the girl that Wrote this in is on their side

okay. So, and it was their wedding. Oh, and took their wedding year. She said, yes, the reader took their wedding year. I’m like, hang on, Max. What do you mean? It took your wedding year. You’re not even engaged yet. He says, well, we wanted to get married in 2022. And now Cassie is going to steal our thunder because she’s getting married before us.

I’m like, but you’re not even engaged yet, Max. That’s what I like. I had like two of my really good friends, two of my best friends got married the same year as me. And I was like, that’s so fun. Cause I’m thinking like 10, 20 years down the line, we’re the same anniversary year. Like let’s go on an anniversary trip.

Like, that’s the way I think.

Yeah. And you’re like going through all the seasons together. Like it just makes it so much more fun. Like a big party, I mean, I hear of two people getting mad too about pregnancies and stuff and I’m like, I love that. Like, yeah, that’s a thing. That is a thing.

I got a story where a girl was kicked out of the wedding because she announced her pregnancy and they were like, I don’t want you announcing stuff. Well, I mean, people are insane.

Ivette: Oh my goodness. They

Christa Innis: thought the pregnancy would take away too much attention from the bride. I was like If you really care about those people, you’d be celebrating them.

You’d be like, how can I make the day better for you? Because you’re pregnant at my wedding. I was

Ivette: I was pregnant at your wedding.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I was like, I had two pregnant bridesmaids and I thought it was so fun. And it’s so fun to look back at pictures and be like, Oh, like, I don’t know, just looking back at those memories.

Yeah. And then we get to like go through this chapter together with our kids, like.

Ivette: Mm hmm. Imagine like me being kicked out of the wedding because I was pregnant.

Christa Innis: I’m like, I, like what?

Ivette: Yeah, no. That

Christa Innis: needs to be researched in a deep way. I don’t know a laboratory somewhere where people think that way.

I’ll be part of my next psych research. Yes very niche I know she says I’m like, but you’re not even engaged yet max You haven’t proposed. You can’t expect our sister, who’s older than you, to put her life on hold because you guys called the wedding year 2022. It’s not like calling a shotgun.

He’s super hurt by me saying this, and said it’s important that you understand our hurt over this. I’ll be honest, I did not mince words, and maybe that was a mistake, but I said, I love you, but this is crazy. You’re an adult. Please be happy for a sister and stop making this about you. I think that’s pretty nice.

Yeah,

Ivette: and I’m honestly so shocked that this guy, like, bought into his girlfriend’s whatever she has going on, like, in her mind, this, like, game that she’s playing. Like, for you Just sit there and be like, no, my girlfriend’s right, like who you’ve been dating for, I don’t know, a couple years and you’ve known your sister your whole life.

Christa Innis: It’s like, really? Like, I don’t know. yeah, that’s just like a big red flag for me. Nope. Yeah, you wonder what manipulation is going on behind the scenes. What’s

Ivette: Gaslighting there for sure.

Christa Innis: Yes, like, oh, your family is terrible. Like, I’m no expert. I don’t know this stuff just from like seeing stories.

I’m like, if a person you’re dating is pulling you away from your family instead of like celebrating them, that’s It’s a red flag. that’s kind of like textbook, isn’t that? Yeah. Yeah.

Ivette: That’s not good.

Christa Innis: when you and Lizzie get engaged and married, we will be just as excited for you, she says.

For the next four months, my brother, Max, and his still girlfriend, Lizzie, proceed to have lengthy talks with my parents and us about how hurt they are about my sister’s engagement. Oh my gosh. And wedding planning. They say they do not feel cared for or validated in their pain. Cue gagging noises, she says.

Oh, it’s terrible. It’s just, they’re, I mean, and I hate to be like, oh, like, she said they’re 20s and then the older sister’s 30, so I don’t know, like, if that means, like, 23, 24. But they just, they sound very, like, they need to, like, live a little life. But I mean that someone in their 40s could act like that.

So I don’t really want to play the age game, but it just sounds very odd to just not all of a sudden not be happy for your sister because you’re supposed to get engaged first.

Ivette: Yeah, absolutely. And then still not being engaged and still complaining about it. Like it’s my wedding year, but you’re not even engaged still.

That makes no sense. Absolutely. It’s like,

Christa Innis: Okay, I’m going to read into it before we read a little bit further, but it’s almost like the brother doesn’t actually want to get engaged. The younger brother, right? So instead of like, the pressure being put on him, he’s going to turn it on his family and be like, Oh, can you believe that?

Well, now they’re taking your thunder, so I can’t. Because don’t you think if this happened and he really wanted to get engaged and married first, he would just propose?

Ivette: Yeah, he would have proposed like right away. And then set a wedding date before that. And then like beat them to the, yeah, I was just gonna say that.

And then like beat them to the, wedding date. Like. And said they’re just over here crying about it

Christa Innis: and not doing anything.

Ivette: he’s kind of a coward too.

Christa Innis: I think it’s. Him kind of pushing his feet in the sand or whatever the phrase is.

Ivette: No, it’s not that he’s being a coward. He’s like, I know the red flags and this is just giving me time.

Bridesmaid to ‘Special Guest’ in One Email

Christa Innis: Yes. Let’s direct it toward the anger towards my family and not me. Yes. That’s just the vibe I’m getting. My brother, Max, finally proposes to Lizzie in the fall of 2021, and they start planning their wedding for September 2022, six months after my sister’s wedding will take place.

 Okay. For a while, everything is copacetic. I hope I’m pronouncing that right. And then Lizzie starts sending lengthy wedding planning emails that are insane. She starts off with me and my sisters as bridesmaids.

After that, I would not want to be her bridesmaid. Talking about, I don’t know. I guess it’s hard because it’s like you want to just like move forward. And so you’re probably your baby brother. So you’re like, let’s just make things work. But you know, things are going to be. Not great. Mm hmm. but pretty quickly, oh, pretty quickly demotes us to special guests.

Ivette: Oh my gosh, no. That

Christa Innis: might be the kindest thing she’s ever done for me, she says. She wants us to attend a bachelorette weekend, a wedding shower, an engagement party weekend, and the wedding. All separate weekends and all flying out. That’s a lot. That’s terrible.

Ivette: That is. Yes. For her to first be like, yeah, I want you to be a bridesmaid.

Like where, in your timeline of like being a part of this family, do you see that being a good thing? Do you see them saying, yes, I would’ve, that I would’ve been like, no. , no. and then to be demoted, like to demote them? I can’t believe that. I can’t believe that. Like, how do you even have that conversation with them?

You’re

Christa Innis: a special guest now, so you just get like a badge or something. Like, what does that mean? But yet, she still wants them to attend four different things and fly out for all of them.

Ivette: Still come, still pay for everything, still make me the center of attention.

Christa Innis: Yes. Oh my gosh, and she’s probably that kind of bride, like, even if you have like a white speck on your dress, she’s like, change.

Don’t have any white anywhere near you.

Ivette: You can’t have white shoes. No way. You can’t. I don’t even know if you’re like dresses poofier than hers. You’re out. You’re out.

Christa Innis: I was just telling someone how my cousin Jasmine, how when we were out at the bachelorette party, she had a shirt that had like white flowers on it.

And she was like, I won’t wear it. I’m so sorry. And I was like, Jasmine, you can wear that. I literally, you could literally put a white shirt on right now. What? I was there. I know. I didn’t know if you were like, during that conversation, but I was just like, Oh yeah.

Ivette: Yeah. I think we were all like looking at ourselves in the mirror and then she like noticed it.

And then that’s when you guys had like, Oh, that’s,

Christa Innis: yeah. Right

Ivette: before we were leaving.

Christa Innis: I don’t care.

Ivette: you could tell her like her whole outfit could be white and it would be fine.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I was like, I would have been like, yeah, we’re both the brides. I literally don’t care. I’m just happy everyone’s here. And I’m like, and I’m someone too, where it’s like, I, to multiple people, I was like, don’t feel like you have to come to everything or any of it.

Obviously, the wedding’s the most important. So if you can’t make it to a shower or bachelorette, I’m fine. Like, Two or three people couldn’t come to the bachelorette. And I was like, that’s totally fine. Like, people that were in the wedding. And it was like, we moved on. We did our own thing. It was all good.

Like, to put pressure That’s the thing is like, everyone’s different. But like, to put pressure on people. Like, you have to come. Spend all this money. And That’s where people get stressed out. And I’m like, I’m more excited about people just being by my side at the wedding. That was the biggest thing for me. 

She says, okay. I’m like, girl, again, I love you, but I don’t have the money to fly out for four separate events. I can come to two of these. Plus, my sister’s getting married too, so I’ve got her bachelorette and wedding, remember? Which kind of would take precedence, would think. Yikes. Shouldn’t have mentioned that.

We immediately start getting lectured. Lizzie tells us, we told everyone that your sister’s wedding would steal our thunder and look, see, we can’t have the wedding we want because of your sister’s wedding. But it’s like, either way, you are asking people to fly out to four events. Like, that is insane.

Ivette: Yeah.

And then for, I just can’t believe that she’s like, see, like, it’s taking away from my wedding. Like, it’s Get over yourself. I’m over this girl. I’m over her. I’m over

Christa Innis: her. It’s so, like, this is why there’s the name Bridezilla, because of this bride, and I hate that because, like, so many times it’s, like, a nice bride that just has a boundary, and it’s like, okay. 

No, she’s not a bridezilla, but this is like, no, like everyone bowed down to me. It’s my year. I own the whole year. And it’s like, no, that’s not how it works.  

Ivette: No, I’m out. I don’t like her. Yeah.

Christa Innis: And also to like be in the mind of the bride who’s already having issues, you know, with everything. why would you want the sisters to be at your bachelorette party if you don’t like them so much?

Where’s that?

Ivette: Yes. That perspective. Perfect. Like, yeah. It’s like, they’re doing you a favor. Like, by getting married around the same time. It’s like, thank you, yes, perfect.

Christa Innis: Yeah, so you can be with your friends. And I just, I don’t get it. okay, it says, Lizzie and Max continue to rag us about this.

Including the week of my sister’s wedding. With long, ridiculous emails about how they feel abandoned by the family. Because not everyone can attend every single one of their expensive destination events. I wish I was joking and I wish I could copy verbatim the email they sent to my immediate family five days before my sister got married about their hurt feelings.

Also not to mention they’re getting married six months after the other sister. That’s plenty of time to then focus on them, right? Like it’s not like they’re getting married the week after.

Ivette: Literally start sending save the dates right after the wedding. Yeah. Like, yeah, shouldn’t even overlap at all.

Christa Innis: No, that’s plenty of time away from each other.

They’re literally, can you imagine demanding someone to pay attention to you the whole year? Like, this is my year, nothing else can happen.

Ivette: yeah, I don’t, have friends like that, thank God. I don’t think I could be friends with someone like that. No,

Christa Innis: no. It makes me wonder, I mean, how, maybe she only has the sisters.

Because she doesn’t have friends. Yeah, I don’t know. That’s rough. she said they even requested that my sister not speak about her wedding at any of their wedding events. I feel the need to insert here that my sister Cassie is very down to earth, unfussy, lovely and intelligent college professor.

She is not a diva. She never makes things about herself. Or makes herself the center of attention. So the fact that they even felt upstaged by her is truly a masterclass in security. This girl should be a writer. I love this like image. I was going to say that like, she’s so insecure. I think it’s probably too.

It’s like the fact, like the way she just described her older sister, the younger girlfriend or now fiance sounds very. intimidated, almost. Like, oh, they’ve got, like, their stuff together, she’s intelligent, but it’s like Maybe you can just like look up to her. Maybe pick apart a couple like things that you want to like Yes I just I don’t my sister Cassie lovely husband Alex have a beautifulheartfelt budget friendly for Wedding in March of 2022 family and friends attend our Midwest cousins who all have kids are able to attend because the wedding is driving distance for them and my sister thoughtfully planned it over their kids school break my brother Max and Lizzie sleep late miss their first flight so they don’t even make it in time for the rehearsal dinner weird weird how that happened something I now wonder about did they really sleep through their alarms or was it just a stunt to pull the focus Probably.

He,

Ivette: like, wakes

Christa Innis: up, like, changes

Ivette: the alarm, like, on their phone.

Christa Innis: Yes! Oh my gosh. I have no idea. They probably, like, purposely, like, planned a later flight or something.

Ivette: 100%. I think she did it. I don’t think the brother did it. I think she was like, Oh, babe, like, I looked at the flights, they don’t have any more.

It’s just, like, we have to go to the later one.

Hijacking the Honeymoon with Drama

Christa Innis: Mm hmm. It makes you wonder like someone that’s acting like this and like he’s so easily manipulated Or she might make up stories to tell him like, oh, this is what they said to me This is what they did to me and just like victim mode. Oh my gosh. This could be like a whole series After the wedding my sister and alex go to their honeymoon to europe While in Europe on their honeymoon, Lizzie and Max start texting their complaints and grievances about who is not attending their pre wedding events to the family group chat again.

I text them privately and say, hey, it’d be cool if you let our sister enjoy her honeymoon for a minute. If you have issues, please text the rest of us directly, but leave them out of this. Spoiler alert. They don’t block. I’d be blocking. I’d be like, I’m on my honeymoon.

Ivette: Yeah,

Christa Innis: by the way, like

Ivette: Like, maybe through pictures, but like, I’m not, I suck at answering text messages and phone calls.

So my honeymoon, it’s like, Ivette’s dead. She’s gone. You were like, you weren’t even

Christa Innis: thinking about that.

Ivette: No, absolutely not.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I don’t even remember texting anybody on my honeymoon. I feel like we left our phones in the hotel room because we were at a resort. Sorry.

Ivette: I think like, we actually never went on a honeymoon.

We went on a trip. But our trip. that sounds like a bridezilla thing, like, a bridezilla thing, a thing of bridezilla. I don’t

Christa Innis: even know, I don’t know, shut up.

Ivette: I think I only use it for pictures, I don’t even know if I had service. So it’s like, I don’t know.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I would be blocking if someone just kept bugging me I’d be like I need to be in this oasis away from all that And good on this I don’t know whatever the OPS whoever like sent in this story like good on you You’re being a great like Boundary holder for your family.

That’s a lot of responsibility, but I’m proud of you for like stepping in Lizzie makes the next six months hell for my email inbox. She sends detailed look books and dress code guidelines for her engagement party weekend, micromanaging everyone’s travel plans, setting detailed schedules down to the minute for every single pre wedding event.

And giving main character syndrome, I’d say, a whole new meaning. She also continued to complain about how they feel abandoned and unloved by my extended family from the Midwest, who have been invited to their engagement party weekend, but cannot attend. I’m sorry, I would not be flying to an engagement party.

I just

Ivette: want it. And also the fact that you are sending, like, dress codes and lookbooks to the engagement party? Like, it’s not even the wedding.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Like, that’s a lot for a wedding, but that I can understand a little bit more. But an engagement party, you’re going to tell people what to wear, so they have to go out to a store, pay more money.

the engagement party weekend is at a small beach resort town. It’s expensive to fly to and the kids all have school. My sister’s wedding was over their spring break.

I try to explain to my brother and Lizzie saying, hey, the side of the family has kids. They’re not rich and they genuinely cannot afford to come to the event. It’s a multi day event that would put their kids out of school. You’re talking thousands of dollars just in plane tickets, not to mention hotel rooms.

You didn’t even invite them to your wedding. Just invited them to this and they Can’t afford to come. Like the kids. Yeah, they invited the parents and kids, the engagement party, but didn’t invite the kids to the wedding. So, she says, don’t take it personally, you just really didn’t plan this with them in mind.

Telling my brother and Lizzie this truth was clearly a mistake. Lizzie sent our whole family a text saying that it was unfortunate that our family didn’t support or care about them enough to show up. At this point, I really started to feel ill over the fact that my brother was marrying this girl.

It’s just a red flag after red flag. I’m beginning to feel like a prop, because the other thing I haven’t mentioned, she’s becoming a wedding content creator during all of this.

Ivette: Oh my god, I want to know who it is! Oh my gosh, this is bad. We can’t share this!

Christa Innis: Hey, the girl submitted it and you’re all like, I would, maybe share it. She goes, yep, you are that right. She quits her job at a consulting firm to work full time as a content creator and decides that her wedding is the best way to start. We are the props for her perfect Instagram wedding. At this point, I’m hating every minute of her wedding BS, but I’m also trying to keep a relationship intact with my brother because I love him and I’m also like blink twice if you need help.

You know,

Ivette: oh my gosh, this just put everything into like a whole different perspective like it makes sense like everything needs to be extravagant because the pictures need to look perfect because it needs to be filtered. So that you get more followers and I’m not saying every content creator is this way, but this person sounds like this is what they’re doing right yeah

Christa Innis: totally 100 percent terrible.

The Plus One Power Play

Ivette: Two months before the wedding, my plus one is revoked. Lizzie and my brother feel like I’ve defended my sister too much and taken her side during all the wedding drama.

Christa Innis: They want to punish me. My plus one is my boyfriend of a year and a half, and we already bought plane tickets. They can’t do that. I’d be like, I’m not coming anymore. That, yeah. It’s not like, oh, behave and you get a plus one. If you don’t behave, you take it. That’s not how plus ones work. I call my brother and say, Hey, we already bought plane tickets and got an Airbnb.

It’s incredibly cold and rude to disinvite my partner.said that he and Lizzie now feel as if I’m trying to upstage their wedding by bringing my boyfriend! This cannot be real! And they don’t want me making a big deal about it. Oh, they don’t want me making a big deal about their, about, oh my gosh.

Okay, at this point, I’m like, F it. I say to my brother, My boyfriend is going to come with me the weekend. If he’s not invited to the wedding, that’s up to you. You can exclude him. It’s in New York City, so he can find something fun to do on his own. My brother says, If you bring him to New York City, I will consider that as an attempt to draw attention from us on our wedding weekend.

Oh, come. These people are insane. I don’t,

Ivette: I don’t like him. I just, I can’t. I don’t. I would

Christa Innis: not be going.

Ivette: No, I would go. I would go to New York City. I would do all the fun tourist things. I would maybe like, oh, that’s your wedding. Oh, hey. And then just like keep going about my stuff. But yeah, no, I would go enjoy New York City.

I would not want to be a part of that wedding at all. At all.

Boundaries vs. Bridezilla

Christa Innis: I see you wouldn’t go to the wedding. Oh, no. I would go to New York. Yeah. Hundred percent. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would go to New York. Mm-hmm . Or I’d go to the wedding and like I’d say this, but I would never do this. I’m like, think of something like petty, like wear the wrong color or something.

I wouldn’t do that for all white . Walk in a ball. A ball gown. Ball gown. Yeah. No, I’m like, too, like I just wouldn’t, I can’t do confrontation. I wouldn’t be there. I say, well, we’re not cancelling his flight. He wants to spend time with me and our family, so he will come and he’ll spend time with us outside of the wedding.

You’re the one who disinvited him at the last minute in an effort to punish me. One month before the wedding, I get an email from Lizzie telling me that she needs me to get my hair and makeup professionally done. She’s not a bridesmaid. You can’t make someone do that. She tells me what color to paint my nails, what type of shoes I should wear, and what type of jewelry she expects me to wear.

I respond by telling her politely and a firm boundary. I say, You’ve given us wedding dress code. I will show up looking lovely and appropriately dressed to your big day. You don’t need to tell me what type of specific jewelry to wear or how to paint my nails. I to do my own hair and makeup as I cannot afford to pay a hair and makeup artist of your choosing on top of all the travel expenses.

Thank you.

Ivette: She’s not even in. She was demoted. How dare you? 

Christa Innis: And I’m one for two, where like, even if you are a bridesmaid, give them the option. Like, never You give them

Ivette: options. Yeah. This is who’s doing the hair, this is who’s doing the makeup. If you want to, sure. If you don’t, that’s fine too. You

Christa Innis: feel more comfortable doing it yourself, that’s fine. I don’t care.

Ivette: This is the company, these are the dresses, or this is the color. These are the 10 different styles that they have. Whatever you want on your body, that’s what you choose. Like, you did that for us. Yeah. And, like, this person wants you to do this, this, this, this, this. Like, it has to be that or you’re out. Of what?

Of being a guest of honor?

Christa Innis: Yeah, I don’t even know what that means. This is like, honestly, the craziest story I’ve ever read. Every week I’m like, oh, this is the craziest I’ve ever read. I think this is honestly the most insane. Alright, we got two little paragraphs left. Well, that was the last I ever heard from her.

I went to the wedding with my family and without my partner. The food sucked. The venue was ridiculously expensive. She yelled at guests for accidentally walking into the venue too early while they were taking photos. My brother looks like a hostage. Yeah. My mom cried during the vows, but not because she was happy.

My dad talked to the father of the bride and learned that Lizzie had spent triple of the wedding budget. Yikes. She got all the Instagram footage and TikTok dances and pictures she could ever want in order to launch her career as a wedding content creator. There it is. She cared more about the outer, which I feel like people get caught up in so much.

It was like, they get more into the outer appearance of what everyone’s going to think about their wedding. Less about your marriage, the future celebrating with your family and friends. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. one of her best friends. And bridesmaids don’t even speak anymore. She asked people to pull out their phones during the ceremony and take selfies for social media.

She blocked me on instagram after the wedding because I didn’t post about the wedding and I haven’t heard from her or my brother in two years. This is gonna be sad. My brother used to make Be my best friend. I’m confused and heartbroken and worried about what his life will be like.

Sometimes I peep on their account from my other Instagram where I’m not blocked. I see her keeping up appearances and to be quite honest, she’s building an empire as a wedding content creator. Oh my gosh. To her credit, she works her butt off, but I know that every beautiful highlight reel posted to Instagram has its own dark story underneath.

That’s it. Imagine you and this girl have like partnered up. She’s been on the podcast. Oh my. Oh my gosh, that is so sad. That’s really sad, and that’s the thing with social media too, is like, you never know what’s actually going on behind the scenes when people are Posting all this aesthetic. I mean, you hear about influencers, like renting out jets.

So it looks like they have a private jet just to

Ivette: sit I’ve heard that too. Or like people being accused for that

Christa Innis: is a better

Ivette: way to put it.

Christa Innis: Cause we don’t really know. I guess I don’t really know. Right. And it’s just like, that’s just the whole appearances thing. Cause I mean, it’s just like, I guess if that’s your brand.

Ivette: Yeah. I think like in a day where like you can filter everything, you can like, Be like in your basement and make it look like you’re at some expensive resort somewhere right like people really crave like authenticity and like realness and, like talking about like harder stuff and it’s like, that’s why I don’t even post anymore.

Like, it used to be so fun to post on social media, but it’s like. I think I’ve told you this, like, I’ve struggled because it’s like, why am I posting this highlight of my life when it’s not all, rainbows and sunshine, you know, like most of my days are like crappy kind of, or like I’m busy or I’m tired and yeah, so.

Yeah,

Christa Innis: I know, I totally relate to that because like I, obviously I post on social. But I don’t post a lot of personal stuff because I feel like if I, and we talked about this too, it’s like if I’m looking for that like craving of someone to like applaud my life or to applaud something personally, then I’m lacking somewhere else or I feel like I need something like, you know, or sometime with myself or I don’t know, it’s just like, I’m the same because I used to like, I mean, Facebook days, I used to post all the time in college.

Like, you’d go out for a night and you’d post all 25 pictures. And then it just got to a point where it’s like, who am I posting that for? like, I love to entertain with content now, but it’s like, if I’m just, like, at home, Or I’m out. I’m not. I just don’t post about that stuff.

I think some people get caught up in this where they like start seeing people engage and they’re like, I have to keep it up. But like, that’s stressful. It’s also stressful to keep up appearances like that.

Ivette: I was just gonna say like, she spent triple the budget. And now like There’s an expectation of like, oh, like this is the kind of like space that you are in.

These are the kind of things that you purchase. So like every picture has to either be like that or up it or it’s not entertaining. You know what I mean? But when you’re posting like about your work, like your work is like the center of attention. That’s different, right? And so.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I feel like some of the, my favorite people to follow, like you were saying, they’re so authentic.

Like, oh, I’m trying to think of her last name. What’s her name? Jen. I can’t think of her last name. Elise Meyers is one that I follow who’s so authentic in her story and how she talks and shares, she’ll just be like in her room and just talk about her workday. Jen, who’s a labor nurse. I cannot think of her last name.

It’s gonna kill me. But, um, yes, I sent her stuff. Um, but she to like, she’ll be like hair up in a bun. And she’s like, This is my life right now. I’m like with my chickens and it’s just like very like Normal stuff and like not like I have chickens, but you know I mean like it’s just she doesn’t try to put on this facade of like my glamorous life Like everyone’s life has aspects that are glamorous or nicer but yeah, I think it’s like it’s so easy to get caught up in that and just I don’t know I feel really bad for this girl because it sounds like I can’t speak for everyone, but I’m sure we all can think of someone that’s been into, in a relationship like that where you’re like, he or she is like lost because they’re so enamored in what’s going on with their partner and they’ve turned away from their family. 

Ivette: And I’m thinking to like imagine hard it is like when you’re in a relationship with someone and you’re like, oh, I want to leave or whatever, but then it’s like, oh, what is this person going to think? What is this person going to think? But now it’s like, it’s not just your friends and family. It’s like all of your followers.

All of your business, like not to say that that’s where they’re at, because like, we hope that that’s not the case. Right. But, if everything is based off of appearances, like it’s to be that much harder to change, walk away, be true to yourself, you know, so

Christa Innis: yeah, that was a rough one. That was really, thanks for this girl for sharing it.

I feel like it was probably therapeutic for her to type it all out. I hear that a lot from people. They’re like, I’ve held all this in and so me being able to type it like helped me feel better. So I can’t imagine though, like just having your brother just not speak to you or your family because of their partner.

So.

Ivette: even hearing the story though, I feel like. She did things the right way, like, she was very, like, composed, very mature, and I love the way she spoke about her sister. It was so beautiful. You know what I mean? I feel like her heart is at the

Christa Innis: right place. A hundred percent. Yeah, she did a great job, like, setting the boundary, not letting this girl walk all over them.

Right. and it also goes to show, too, there’s no pleasing people like this, because I think a lot of times people think, like, especially as people pleasers, we think, like, Oh, if I just do this for them, then they’ll understand If I say, okay, then they’ll be fine. And it’s like, no, once you let them tread over you, they’ll keep going.

Yeah. Yeah. So it’s like her with even her boundaries, it was not okay. Cause probably she’s never been told no before. Right. Yeah. Good for her. Yeah. Props to her. well, that was a long story, but thanks Frank. we need to do this more often because it’s kind of fun just to like. Hang out and like have a glass of wine because we never get to do this.

I loved it. Thanks for having me. Thanks for doing this with me. Yeah. so before you go, is there any last parting advice or anything you’re working on that you’re excited about?

Ivette: I’m almost done with grad school. I have like eight weeks left and I’m so excited because it’s meaning that we can actually hang out. We can, my schedule is not going to be booked and maybe the next time if we do this, it’ll be in person.

Christa Innis: Yes. That was our goal for everyone like listening. That was our goal to do in person and I got like, I feel like our schedules are not like It was just hard.

And also we were like, wait, three more weeks have passed. We got to figure this out. And I recorded my closet as of now. And I’m like, how would we do in person? I guess we can go in the living room. We got to find a space. And then I was just naked in that closet.

Ivette: We could just

Christa Innis: squeeze in here. We probably could. We’ve sat in weirder places together. Yes. It would

Ivette: be fine. Normal. Yes. All right. Awesome. Well, thanks for having me. Thank you.


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